A marketing + philanthropy opportunity

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Hi folks,

So I've been helping a friend by building him a website to raise money for a family in his hometown. http://www.amandawattsbenefit.org/

I've decided to go a step further and do a promotion in my private practice, and I thought I'd open it up to everyone (every bit helps)... I am choosing to donate 100% of my fee for 10 massages to first time clients, but you could choose something completely different. Get creative!

Check out http://www.amandawattsbenefit.org/shop#massage

Do you want to participate? If enough folks are interested, I'll make an entire massage section organized by locale :-)

1) Decide what kind of promotion you'd like to run (e.g. 10% of fees for first time clients during a certain time period go to the Benefit, a certain amount of massage, etc)
2) Link to the site from your website if you have one
3) Let me know your info so we can link to you
 


Ok... 68 views and no replies? Someone please comment and tell me what's lacking with this idea! :-D
 


At the risk of seeming coldhearted, I guess I'll speak up with "what's wrong."

As much as we like you, Josh, nobody here on this board has any point of reference as to this unknown person's credibility, honesty and ability to use funds wisely. Most public/private charities have jumped through the hoops of setting up a trust or 501c3 non-profit to be sure that administration of funds collected is on record as being used for the stated purpose. This collection just seems like some guy knocking on "doors" asking for 20 bucks.

The website has no credentials for the person. Since Hurricane Katrina, I still get at least one solicitation a week from somebody who is "raising money for a hardworking family who doesn't want to take charity from the government." Granted, this presentation is slick compared to the solicitations I get in my email or in the mail.

In addition to personal solicitations for money, as a MT and business owner, I field at least 2-3 requests a week to "massage people for free at our charity event." At this point, I only do the ones that I have a personal attachment with, (such as Dove Lewis Emergency Animal Hospital, or American Diabetes Association or Jingle Bell Run,) or individuals that I know personally who have a great need for funds or bodywork.

In addition, once the door is opened on people soliciting for private funds on a discussion board, it seems to open the floodgates.

Last, in this particular project, it seems quite unrealistic for $25k to accomplish all (or even part of) what the initiator of this collection seems to have in mind. It makes me wonder if actual bids have been taken and estimates made.

I think it's great that you're helping with a program of assistance. I'm sorry I won't be able to contribute.
 


Thank you! You don't seem coldhearted. C.f. one of my long time friends who suggested that some of the children with muscular dystrophy might be old enough to get jobs.

I've been encouraging the organizer of this benefit to look into starting or at least working with an existing non-profit. He seems to be of the mind that forming a non-profit would be a lot of work and expense just to raise $25k, but I am going to pass your comments along to him. He has been looking into working with the Catholic charities in that part of the country.

once the door is opened on people soliciting for private funds on a discussion board, it seems to open the floodgates.

Perhaps my post was inappropriate... I'd invite comment on this from everyone else. My main motivation was to share the opportunity for attracting philanthropic clients (I have had good results from this kind of arrangement and donate gift certificates to local non-profits regularly). I myself wouldn't want to see posts on the board asking for cash donations or free work.

in this particular project, it seems quite unrealistic for $25k to accomplish all (or even part of) what the initiator of this collection seems to have in mind. It makes me wonder if actual bids have been taken and estimates made.

Interesting... I believe the contractor is donating the labor. Does $25k seem like enough to cover all the materials? They are looking for in-kind donations of new appliances, so I don't think they expect the $25k to cover that.

Thanks for raising that concern, so that we can address it fully on the website.
 


Labor is certainly the largest expense by far when dealing with such things as electrical problems and black mold. If the black mold is Stachybotrys, there is often significant expense in the tools/wraps needed to remove the mold, as well as major reconstruction expense following the removal.

Depending upon how much labor and materials are donated, $25k could well be enough. It would be in the fundraiser's best interests to outline how so much will be accomplished with that "little" money.

I suspect the jobs for the older children would go a long way toward making this seem a "worthy" cause. Also, the first thing that came to my mind was that if they have children who are severely disabled, have they sought assistance from public channels such as disability? There are many MANY people in dire need who CAN'T get gov't assistance. So IF it is the case that this family could get assistance, but won't, it may seem noble, but really it is potentially taking assistance from another family who can't get assistance.

Ultimately, none of us can judge what is happening with this family... we don't know them. But once we are asked for money, we have a responsibility to be judicious with our funds, which is often very difficult for the fundraiser, since they often have to disclose a great deal of detail and personal information before people will really feel "right' about opening their wallets.
 


Thank you again... I'll discuss all of this with him. A "What happens to the money?" section seems like a logical next step.
 


Thanks Breathe, for stepping in with a response. I hesitated, because I didn't want to come across as hardhearted. It's so hard to be articulate about something like this.

It actually never occurred to me that this was a scam. I'm a little naive that way I guess, and should consider that option more often. However, like Breathe, I give to favorite charities regularly. I actually budget for such donations as a bill, and pay it every month. Already, I have too many to choose from. There's no lack of worthy causes. I also have chosen individuals locally to help with massage therapy donations. It just didn't make sense for me to respond to a fundraising drive across the country, when so many people are in need in my own community. In my own extended family, for that matter.

EgoMagickian said:
I myself wouldn't want to see posts on the board asking for cash donations or free work.

This sentence confused me, since you posted exactly that. I'm not upset that you did so; I just find it odd that you would object to others doing the same.
 


Wow. I can see that I did not make myself clear at all! I have edited my original post to reflect my intentions more clearly. The idea here isn't to have people just give away massage, but to promote their business while contributing to the benefit.
 


I suppose I didn't respond because I get many requests for charity, via doing free massage or donating money or goods. I never donate in a way to market because that just never paid off to be honest. I donate to causes I resonate with.

I don't think what you are doing is bad but it will be easier to raise funds locally.

Good luck.
 


Yes... the organizer has been running in to that... he's looking for ways to communicate that help expand the circle people draw when they think of what constitutes "our community".

I'm heartened by the donations from people in other countries :-)
 


Hey folks, just wanted to provide an update!

Work has begun on the Watts' home, and has begun to attract lots of local attention. Details of what's been done and new pictures have been added, as well as an updated list of donors and helpers.

It's neat to see everything begin to pay off!

http://www.amandawattsbenefit.org/
 


I also took the time to look, but not reply.

I don't get many requests for charity. And, don't think I don't believe in it and support it! But I do what I can where I am, and just can't take up every cause that is out there.

I applaud you in your efforts. I hope you continue to raise money for the family.
 
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    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  37. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the official schedule for AMORE SPA: (Korean Ashley hasn't been here for AGES. The old confused imposter doesn't realize he has lost another customer, and continues to post errors and incorrect pics). Tuesday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY(10AM-11pm) & Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face
  38. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Anika , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. ASPA:
    TUESDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Best Massage Rachel, & Wendy ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4โ€ tall with nice responsive 34Cโ€™s and a captivating smooth rounded bottom. She is popular for her excellent massage skills and a little extra.
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: CICI, CINDY & JENNY. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, MIMI & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services.
  43. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5โ€™2โ€tall . 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  44. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Great BBBJ, CIM, GFE in Her menu Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  45. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  46. Sunrise Health Centre:
    Tiana & Noor are here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30โ€™s open mind with big buttocks and young Cute Mia 25โ€™s , pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  49. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Happy, Nayla & Vivian are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  50. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Nancy, Kitty and Olivia ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
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