amps

[summerlove32]

Hello I am sure some of you are not going to like this but it needs to be said. I hear so many of you defending asian mp owners and chatting some political crap. First of all these girls are not going to tell you the truth about their lives THEY ARE NOT going to trust you. Yes some girls are working free will but for every willing one there are five that are not. I know this first hand.I can not believe I live in a country where cheap pussy is more imp. then human life. Where our dogs are treated better than some women,and websites like this supprt and defend these people. Some of you act like your blind well lets shed some light:
"This is the first place I’ve seen that has locks on the door. I’m not talking about locks from the inside, but locks on the outside bolted from the very top. They must really lock them up and release them for game play, very sad." originally posted by um69me 08/21/2006 and viewed by 5793 members. Yeah that sounds willing. um69me went so far to say "very sad" not sad enough obviously to make some see the light. Harmony is closed down but I am sure no one from this site made any tip to le.Why would you? Its not your daughter,who cares? So to sum it up some asian sps are willing and happy and some are not.If le can save just one life then its all worth it.To anyone with respect for human life anyway.This is not directed at all eforum.xxx members just the ones who truly know better NO MORE EXCUSES!!!!!

 

[Lovinghope]

What does cloud 9 have to do with it? An asian girl working towards canadian residency, you would find at an esl class or university not at a massage parlour.Don't hate me your own member posted the girls were locked up YOU IDIOT!!!!! I have worked in this industry a long time and I am far from racist. I would much prefer people like you did not come to establishments I may be associated with. If I really cared about being a shill, I would never have made this post cuz idiots like you would be offended. You tell yourself whatever makes you sleep better at night but the facts are the facts

 

[charlotte s]

P.S. My friend bought an amp in 2001 and while doing renos we had to fix holes in the walls where the girls hid when le came in.Sounds legal to me.I am all for asian girls working WHEN THEY CHOOSE TO. But this province does have a huge problem with exploitation of asian women. I fully support any effort to free a life.

 

[Jolene L]

Soopergrizz...

Don't bother giving "blondgirl" any credibility by responding to his/ her/ its thread. Clearly, this person has an "agenda" and is CLEARLY having a "Blonde" moment! All that this person has said is BS! The MODs should take a look at this thread and take the proper steps to stop this BS!

 

[Now Now]

I do not need your time of day.If thats all you get from that post it just goes to show how sick and twisted some men are today.As I said do not attack me UM69ME stated in his post girls were locked up!! Sorry for bringing it to your attention. However the fact is what it is,and I am sure the mod can see it. Hey do what you want.I am racist cuz I care? For your info I am a canadian citizen but I was not born here.THIS IS NOT ABOUT RACE IT IS ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS!!! Read the first post again.Someone tell me why i am getting all this slack for something that was written plainly before your own eyes?I never said ALL asian girls I said some. Sleep well tonight....... you should be proud of yourself

 

[Master Buz Lawson]

ignorance is also bliss for anybody wearing nike, reebok, sean john, or any other item manufactured by exploiting child labour. not to completely go off on a tangent but there's alot of "exploitation" going on in more areas than one. so where does one start?

at the end of the day, i would like to see all those that are forced to work be able to leave and only the ones who choose this profession stay. on the shallow side it's not cool to have a session with somebody who doesn't want to be there so it's saving time, money, and effort for us. on the more moral side, if it were more clear which places are forcing girls many eforum.xxx members would quit or refuse to visit those places. many posters have posted about respect for the girls, and it does sicken people when you talk about the dark side of the business. in fact i'm sure many eforum.xxxerts would even be willing to help a girl out of bad circumstances if they knew the girl was being real and not just trying to take advantage of somebody's kindness. now which ones are there by force and which ones are there by choice?

 

[13th Thief]

........... whatever.

 

[kELLz !]

Hey, GBM, I don't think that's a very effective rebuttal. It sounds like you don't care whether her allegations are true or not.

I've visited a number of day spas, a couple of licenced amps and a few asian indies. I always chat with the girls, to the extent we're able to bridge the language gap. I've never heard anything that would lead me to believe they were unwilling workers.

The older ones seem to be on a circuit -- working their way out of China, to Japan for a few years, and now to Canada. The younger gals usually claim to be students -- studying English at the local colleges or private schools. If they're on student or tourist visas, they are working illegally. And they probably do have to hide, scatter or come up with a story when the the police show up.

After the recent round of amp busts in Burnaby and Richmond, the RCMP attempted to justify the raids as rescuing women from sex slavery. I think a lot of the workers played along with the cops -- better to be treated as a victim than a criminal. But there have been no charges laid or further announcements by the RCMP. The cops seem to have been sucked in by the same urban myths that blondgirl is promoting.

What we are hearing from blondgirl, one suspects, is a disgruntled white sex trade worker railing against foreign competition. That's understandable. The asian gals are sucking up (no pun intended) a lot of trade. Many provide good service at reasonable prices. As with the auto industry, domestic producers are having a tough time competing with cheap asian imports.

I'm not claiming any expertise here. These are just my perceptions. I'd be interested in hearing -- honestly -- what other eforum.xxxerts have heard from amp workers.

 

[Alive&Well]

They've gotta come up with something to compete against all the Hondas and Toyotas around.

Right now there might be too many gas guzzling Cadillac Fleetwoods and Lincoln Continentals or pricey Cadillac Escalades. There need to be more Mustang GTs (geez, maybe MustangJoe is onto something there.. )

 

[K G]

So, in the lower mainland, for every 1 asian girl working of free will there are 5 who are forced to work? I don't think so. I am acquainted with a few AMP owners, and none of them are bad folks who force women to work, and every one of the working girls does so of free will. So I don't know where these AMPs are which are the subject of this thread.

As for micros, the situation may be different, but this is a suspicion arising from the fact that micros are hidden operations and many of the girls speak no, or next to no, English.

So, this thread has all of the appearance of an agenda - for what reason, who knows? although jimbo2006 has an excellent and reasonable theory for that!

 

[ctea]

it beats having to go to Thailand ....

 

[michelle bohannon]

Actually AMP's rock, would you rather have the girls pimped out, strung
out on drugs like a lot of the street scene? Is that your idea of what
makes AMP's look bad. Give your head a fuckin shake lady !!

Like GBM said........whatever.
Ooooops there I go again, guilty of feeding the troll.
Bad QM'r, bad boy.

Furthermore like was already mentioned but I'm going to mention it again,
the raids showed and LE ADMITTED it in the media that NO girls were found
to be working against their will.........period. Nor were there any illegals
found to be forced into sex slavery.

Explain that blondy !!


...........QM'r

 

[demactima]

A bunch of BS from someone who have no idea of what's going on out there!

 

[Pompal 09.]

I agree with this statement. Here we have big businesses using cheap child labor to make name brand goods for us, and citizens and governments of first world nations turn a blind eye just so we can get our luxury goods cheaper than if it were produced domestically. (Actually that's a lie... they'd still make a profit if it were produced domestically, but the profit margin would drop dramatically.) Granted, one could argue that these kids are actually making more money than they ever would working in one of their local businesses... or they could be out begging... or worse, selling their bodies. Yes, compared to conditions in first world nations, working in sweat shops sucks, BUT these big businesses do provide a "safe(er)" environment to work... some even provide housing, schools, clean drinking water. Yes, I'm going off on a tangent as well, so how does this tangent relate to AMPs? Well, these girls weren't exactly well off in their country to begin with, obviously looking for a way out of their own poverty... I'm pretty sure these girls aren't as dumb as blondgirl gives them credit for ("Ok, so we're going to send you to North America, but it'll cost you $$$$. Oh you don't have that sort of money? Well I'm sure we can come to an agreement." DUH!?!) ...and I don't know about the rest of us, but $80-$120+ /hour is pretty damn good pay, even in this first world nation. Yes, the working conditions suck, but it sure beats a sweat shop, right?



Agreed. I'd try to help a girl out if I really believed she was in trouble. But from what I've seen so far in this business, it's never been the case. Yes, they may not ENJOY what they're doing, but this is not something they walked blindly into either. I have also yet to see or hear of any reports of these women being physically abused for denying to work, or any reports of these women being forced to live in "prison-like" environments.

Blondgirl, if there's anyone you should be angry at, it's not the eforum.xxxerts like us who just want to pay to get laid... the person (body) you should be angry at is our government, for refusing to give sex-trade workers any rights or recognition. It is because of the government's lack of support in this industry, that these workers are forced to evade LE, which in turn forces them to work in quasi-legal environments. And if the government really gave a damn, they'd force AMPs to at least carry pamphlets, informing girls where they can seek counsel if they've been mistreated. But that would entail that the government would recognize the need for regulation of the trade, and in North America, that's political suicide. Instead, they use scare tactics and raid AMPs, and hope the girls will give them something... but raids scare them just as much as the johns, and probably more so.



Well, they could start by making LESS junk, and more QUALITY cars. Anyway, totally off topic lol.

 

[Dave J]

I am sure that there is this type of activity in every major city in the world but it is not 5 out of 6 girls as she says. It is likely much less than 1 in a huindred. As QM'r pointed out, in the major busts that happened recently involving about a dozen amps and over a hundred girls, not one case was found.
I have been in most AMP's in Vancouver and have NEVER seen bolt locks on the outside of the doors. In fact I likely would not enter a room with bolt locks on the outside of the door.
Blondegirl claims to "Know this first hand" yet all the proof she offers is another post on eforum.xxx. That is not first hand sweetheart. Just another over priced white SP who can't stand the competiton. Big surprise.

RM

 

[zoe]

I am not great on computers so I do not know how to quote, but it is member um69me that states there were locks on the door at harmony.6000 members read his post and the racist white girl is the only one who finds it disturbing??????? Really guys,oh and I was including the micros. Oh and by the way I am an over priced sp but i do not advertise or see new clients. Your right I cannot compete my life is more important then $$$, And really I aint much fun.And maybe a little chubby. So that said trust me it is not your business I want. Before you reply check out um69me review than call me whatever you want. I know harmony is closed now but as I said not 1 of those 6000 people had anything to do with it closing. And I thought I lived in a country that stood for something. P.S that is not sunny from sunnys accupressure on royal oak and rumble? Cuz I know you,XOXOXO

 

[mommy & wife]

Oh yeah its not asian girls I can not compete with its the gfe and anal. you know bbbj and stuff. I love my life and respect my clients lives. Not too common these days.

 

[Mate]

It's hard to believe that in this multicultural city we live in there are still
people out there who think Asians are ALL foreigners, immigrants, fresh of
the boat,....You get my drift.

Perhaps Asian Canadians are the minority here in BC. I don't know. But you
certainly don't have to be "white" to be a Canadian. "Canadians" come in all
shades, colour, & creed.

Pity the Asian Canadian who is made to feel like a foreigner in their own
country!

 

[WWE Bragging Rights]

Did you mean pity?You fools do not get it and you never will.Why so defensive?? I have made no comments regarding ALL asians. Its not about being canadian its about HUMAN rights. but really no more comments from me you are only going to twist my words anyway. DOES ANYONE REMEMBER LOCKER ROOM TALK BACK WHEN GIRLS FUCKED YOU CUZ THEY WANTED?> BACK BEFORE YOU HAD TO PAY FOR IT> didnt wanna be rude but you all are so I can stoop to your level

 

[renclrk]

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