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Hi all
I cant seem to get the hang of doing Indian head over clothes. I trained practicing on clients who were undressed except for a towelling wrap and i'm finding it very difficult to carry out a treatment with clothes on. Has anyone got any tips they could share .
Also i was just wondering when you carry out Indian head in an office enviroment do the clients stay at their work stations or is their usually a room provided for privacy. If they are seated at their desks how do you manage to carry it out succesfully while their sitting in a high backed office chair??
 
well I can only do massage THROUGH THE CLOTHES, so can't imagine doing the massage any other way.

the art of performing the massage over clothes is to put a bit more pressure on and use the friction movement of the clothes to your advantage.
 
Did they teach you at college to practice over clothes Daisy? I will keep at it but to me it feels annoying for the client when they have baggy jumpers on etc
 
hiya,
yes, I was taught the traditonal way, but it was quite a few years ago, by Helen McGuiness (who writes all the books).

The modern-take on IHM seems to be an oiled - on the skin massage, or (horror of horrors) a lying down treatment. But, perservere with doing through the clothes, as it so much more versatile.

Re: baggy jumpers, you need to educate your clients to wearing the 'proper' clothes to receive the treatment. T-shirts, polo shirts, shirts are the best thing to massage over. Jumpers, silk, and strappy tops are very difficult.
 
Thankyou for your swift replies they are appreciated! yes if I had to perform on a fully clothed client I would certainly make sure they wore something i could work with. I've been practicing on my boyfriend and he doesnt like it . he told me it didnt feel as effective as it does when i do it the other way ..... then again he was probably just wanting to show off his tan and make me jelous!!

Thanks Daisy.
ps do you do mobile work?
 
hiya Tracy,
yes I do some mobile work, and I have a clinic room in Chester-le-street.
 
Hi Tracy - i was taught to massage with oils on the skin as well as through clothes at college. I have a room at home and so people tend to have their IHM massage with oils. However, I do do quite a few taster sessions and do these all through clothes. Like Daisy said you need to use the clothes to your advantage - jumpers are hopeless but if you have tshirts etc then all you need to do iswork the way over the body using more friction. I suppose you basically don't move around quite so easily.

I've never done a lying down IHm and can't imagine how I would really achieve this - in terms of doing IHM in the office you can buy a portable head rest which you can put onto a table. Don't know if you have seen these. HOpe that helps
 
Hi ya Inner Peace

Where I studied IHM several years ago, the attraction of it was that you can do it fully clothed! Then I discovered some other practitioners did it oiled, how weird I thought. Personally happy now to do both, but one of the ideas of IHM is portability and modesty.

You need to consider clothing as a massage medium; so lots of frictions, and thumb and palm kneading/rolling/pressing techniques.

I would personally use my own portable treatment chair. Some office chairs are OK, some are not. I like those "film director" chairs myself, light, portable, cheap, good height, and can massage through the canvas back if necessary.

Another thing about clothed massage, is that if the client is shy, they will relax into the treatment more than unclothed.

Give clothed treatments ago, it worth it.

Best Wishes

Dave
 
Thankyou Bexx and Dave for your comments. It is something I'm gonna have to practice hard at because I have turned down work in the past because of it. I wish college had taught us both ways though. I guess its like all things... practice makes perfect!
I like the idea of the directors chair, light and easy to carry round .I expect they are quite comfortable too. I will bear that in mind when looking for a suitable chair.
Have read a few posts lately on doing Indian head while lying down, have to say I prefer the old method sitting in a chair. I'm not comfortable with having to disturb client to turn them round to do face, but each to their own. The important thing is to do what feels right and what works better for you and your client.

Tracy
 
I wouldn't do IHM when a client was at their desk for the simple reason that they would be distracted - they need to be able to relax!! It's great to do this outdoors, on a park bench, when it's sunny!

I've done both over clothes (usually) and over skin (my daughter hates the feel of fabric being rubbed). I've also done IHM on dreadlocks.

I felt that I needed to be able to adapt to circumstances and not turn work down because it doesn't fit the pattern.
 
Hi ya Inner Peace

Couple of extra tips:

1. Do a treatment swap with an IHM therapist who is comfortable with clothed massage

2. Do an introductory course on Shiatsu or Thai Massage, as both are clothed massage methods.

Cheers

Dave
 
Hiya Innerpeace

I'll do a swap with you if you like (I don't think I'm too far from you)- I was taught IHM over clothes and haven't had one 'with out clothes' before.

Sue xx
 
Hi, I've done IHM at people's desk as some places don't actually have a private room. I have a portable workstation (FHT, Ellisons, etc sell them) you attach it to the desk and the top part is like that of a therapy chair. It's so easy to carry around and it comes with a bag. I'd fully recommend it if you haven't got room for a chair. It's also very suitable for female members of staff who may have a tight skirt on as, unlike the therapy chair where you have to straddle, this one you sit straight in your office chair and lean forward into the workstation.

Love
 
Thanks everyone for all your comments. You have been great in advising me on this topic and I really appreciate it.

Enchantedmoonbeam I would love to swap therapies with you as I'm eager to get to know more therapists to discuss ideas/problems/and generally to boost morale or have a friendly chit-chat etc. Got a few things going on for the next 2 weeks but some time after that would be ok for me . keep in touch and we will arrange a swap thats convenient for us both (fingers crossed)

Tracy x
 
It's interesting to see how people work differently.

IHM was the first therapy I learned, and I chose that first because I was a bit inhibited about 'touching' other people and thought that as IHM was done clothed it would be a good introduction for me. Lo and behold at the first class we were told to take our tops off, drop bra straps so they were under the arms and wrap a towel round us! We practised like that for the whole course, with oils, and I never thought to ask to practise on someone who was clothed. The thought of doing IHM through clothes now seems weird to me, though that was my original perception of it. Strange.

Ali
 
Enchanted
I just want to say a big Thankyou to you for coming over and doing a therapy swap with me . It was really interesting the different routines we use. I will certainly be adapting my routine and using more of your movements when I perform over clothes.

I practiced your routine on my daughter and guess what , she loved the caterpillar walk when it was done firmly ,so keep it in your routine lol, infact there was loads that she really enjoyed. My boyfriend has yet to sample it but i'm sure he is gonna love it too!

I hope i was able to offer you some alternative moves. We were a bit concious of the time today but next time we'll have a proper treatment each.

Will be in touch about the pamper evening soon .
Thank again... you were brill!! ( and such a lovely person too, it was a pleasure meeting you )

Tracy xxx
 
Awwww thanks Tracy. I enjoyed the swap. I'll email you those moves either today or tomorrow.

Hugs
Sue xx
 
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    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl Hitti very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask...
  38. SugarLoveSpa:
    today have tifany mia chrishtina come baby Chuyแปƒn enjoy your time with all service available have beautiful young girl 20 to 30 years old, Sugar Love spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 365-2688๐Ÿ“ฒโ˜Ž๏ธ
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more.. hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience.must try๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘
  40. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    โœ…๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅGOOD NEWS GOOD NEWSโœ…๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’‹Cambodian Princess Suki will return to Jennyโ€™s Spa next Tuesday June 3rd๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ˜˜The famous superstar Cambodian Princess Suki from Annie Spa will be working at Jennyโ€™s Spa in Etobicoke next Tuesday June 3rd with Tina & Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Camb
  42. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 2 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (10am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. JESSICA (3pm-9pm) is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  44. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks 30โ€™s open mind and young cute slime Sophia 30โ€™s, young flirty Mia 25โ€™ with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 bomok appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim & incredible
  46. starjey888:
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  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite
  48. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Larissa , Gabby , Sunny, Kimmie , Christine and new Lora on duty at top norch wellness. Call 437-522-9961 now
  49. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Tuesday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Christina ๐Ÿคฉ, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ and Connie ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ASHA, JANVI, MONIKA, SASHA, AMANDA, PAOLA, MALIYA, PREET, SARIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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