Anything can happen

[mabisking26]

I had a strange night in Bangkok last night. Actually though, the story begins 5 days ago.

Five days ago, I went into my favorite gogo in Nana Plaza (Angelwitch) and bar fined just my type (very selective I am) .... slim, tight body, sharp nose, cute face, long hair, etc.... We had a great time chatting, bought her a few colas, and just before leaving, she asked for a shot of Tequila, which I took as a sign (liquid courage) that she was kind of a newbie at this, and since I had never seen her there before (I go every 5 months or so), concluded she was a bit shy/inexperienced... I was wrong... as in bed she was absolutely fantastic. 1,700 ST. She was so good that I went back the next night at 8PM, but by 9PM she had not shown up, so I left. Pretty much forgot about her for a few days.

Last night, I went back there again (where I know the manager fairly well BTW), and sure enough, she waltzes in around 9:15, sees me, gets a big smile, says she has to change and dance a round. After her round, she promptly joins me and we go through the lady drink chit chat, bar fine, shot of Tequila before leaving again....

Back in the room, we chat a bit and I put 1,700 bt on the night stand as she gets up to take a shower. Well, she grabs the 1,700 bt and walks out the door! I chase her to the elevator and demand the money back. She refuses and an argument ensues. I don't like getting ripped off, so we end up in a wrestling match and I flip her over and pull the money out of her back pocket where I saw her put it. Now, mind you, I am not a violent person, and did just enough to get the money back. Sure enough, she starts screaming and all the doors to the surrounding hotel rooms open, and I have to explain to everyone that she was trying to rip me off. They seemed to believe me, and did not get involved. I go back to my room and shut the door.

She must have called Security because there is a knock at the door, and there she is with a guard asking me to come downstairs to write out a report. I wanted to just shut the door, but complied. While at the front desk... her Thai boyfriend (found this out later) and two friends show up and I am thinking... OK here it comes.... the real fight, but he was pretty nice. I explain the situation to him, but everyone else is chattering away in Thai and I have no idea what is going on.

Next, two cops show up, and as I stand looking with everyone chattering in Thai... the cop demands (although nicely) that I have to pay her 2,000 bt. I refuse nicely and explain my reasons why and what had really happened despite what she was telling them (probably that I had refused to pay AFTER services were rendered). BTW, where else can you, in a land where prostitution is illegal, debate with a police officer this subject... After refusing, the cop asks me to go for a ride to the station.

So, here I am with the girl in the front seat and me and her boyfriend in the back seat feeling like trailer trash on our way to the police station. Pretty much repeat performance here and they demand nicely for me to pay her 2,000 bt. I refuse and give my reasons why. I tell them she stole the money of course, but I am not sure how much they really understand me. So, the cop motions for me to hold my hands out in front, after which I am promptly cuffed and asked to sit down in one of the seats there.

After an hour of refusals to give 2,000 bt (it's the principle, not the cash), asking to see the tourist police, and saying "fine... take me to jail then", a more seasoned (older) cop comes over and says 1,000 bt. I say "no"... After an hour, I'm sitting there still (around midnight by now), the girl and boyfriend sitting there, the cops sitting there (although doing some work), I finally got fed up/bored and said OK... 1,000bt. I pay it to her directly after getting the cuffs off, walk out the door, catch a cab to the Nana Hotel outside bar and have a few drinks before calling it a night.

Now, I just can't get my head around what really happened. After some thought today, I have surmised the following:

1. She had not worked there very long, as this was the first time I had seen her (me being a quasi-regular anyway)..., but she must have been a good earner coming in whenever she wanted to.
2. She was good in the sack because she had a boyfriend.
3. She did like that shot of Tequila before leaving the bar to get the nerve to go with customers.

Having made these few points, I have concluded that she was probably recently coerced to work in the bar by her boyfriend and she was trying to stir up trouble to find reasons/prove why it was better for her to quit. If I were an obnoxious bore and drunk, I could maybe understand what she had done, but I was nicely dressed, pleasant, rather sober, and this was a repeat performance mind you.

So, I was wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience or close to it. This was the first time for me, and although I've been here many times, this experience really opened up my eyes as to what can happen on the ground.....

 

[PeAceOuT]

Why did u produce the money b4 u had your fun?

 

[Joyce]

I wanted to hide the wallet, but yes... point taken

 

[grable]

My summising is that, she sounds like she's on drugs.

I think some bm's may shoot you down, for going as far as what you did.

I applaud your actions.

It's a pity you didn't get to see the tourist police.

I know some of the Tourist Police guys in Phuket & I will recommend to bm's who may get in strife with the law in Phuket, to call them up. It's instances like the op's post is what they are there for.

TanMan, I hope it's smooth sailing from here on in for ya.


EDIT...BTW, go back to the bar & get your bf back & be sure the ***** gets sacked.

 

[Justin Walker]

Speak to mamasan, Though I wouldnt have argued principle unless I had had a skinfull..

I also wouldnt have had the money paid unless I had known her a lot more than one ST..

 

[Mariah]

Hate to hear that story but it is interesting. Too bad you didn't get to talk to the tourist police, but I know it had to take a bit of courage to take it as far as you did. 1000 Baht and a lesson learned. Letting them get away with it only makes it harder for the next bloke. Thanks for the story, I will never pay in advance now. You can never be too careful. You may have saved me a lot of trouble. I've about collected enough stories now to make my own rule book.

 

[forestgrovejerry]

Let her go. Get dressed and return to the bar immediately and speak with the mamassan. Absolutely in the head to have let it go as far as you did. That's crazy shit!!!

 

[Pompal 09.]

Agree with all comments... Not that I am the "seasoned vet", but just as you let your guard down a little... weird shite like this can happen...it just escalates and before you know it, you are in the station in cuffs.

I've only one more day in BKK to talk to mamasan or the manager of the bar, but I find that these kinds of problems are self-correcting and that she will eventually get sacked for this reason or similar ones.

It just blows my hair back that some (or at least one) of these girls will try things like this. I think she truly wants to get sacked to get out of the biz.... in hindsight, I should have just let her walk. All I really ended up with was 700 bt, net...... what a nightmare it was though...

 

[all_day]

Reckon your lucky..

I know a girl whose specialized subject was not living up to promises for services rendered, getting kicked out without pay (or lower pay, she was stunner and demanded high) and then phoneing her friendly partner MiB..

Guys often got hit with many multiples of the price they had agreed and she gave the copper a slice of the action...

 

[Pecs Like Chris Masters]

i know a girl in angel witch who fits this description but ium sure whe would not do this pm her name if u like and i can confirm

sorry to hear about this , but paying first is a big no no imo

tas

 

[Heline B]

Never had anything like that happen to me, ever.

Reckon your major mistake was paying first, never done that either. I respect your decision to hang on to your principles but would not recomend this to anyone, unfortunately too oftern irrespective of right and wrong its better to pay up and complain later, you could easily have ended up in the cells for a night or two.

 

[Jennifer A]

Doing anything here for principles sake is a dangerous stance to take.

Getting physical and wrestling in the hall with people watching is a little bit crazy on your part. Doesn't matter what the reason. You could get charged, deported, blacklisted. Not worth it.

Let it go. Leave it to gum thai (Thai karma) to work it out.

The great thing about the Go-Gos is if you know the managers and are a good regular they will sort it for you. They could even cut her salary and give you the money.

I guess this is the upside of playing in Phuket. It is a smaller community, so maybe less crap happens here.

Either way sucks, but you got out of it ok.

 

[Shenh]

I had this happen to me once. Leaving Chiang Mai, met a Dutch girl on the train, who worked weekends in Khao San Road area, then commuted back to Chiang Mai weekdays. Had a nice weekend, but when she left, there I was left in a hotel, which had a sign that said, "NO THAI WOMEN ALLOWED IN ROOMS," which seems to be the norm in that area. By the time I got up, it was too late to check out, so that night I was wandering around the Khao San Road area where there are no ladybars to speak of. Even after a few beers, it was a sobering experience, I can tell you. So there I was, wandering up KS road, looking like a lost sheep, when I bump into two gals, one ugly, one nice-looking, if no beauty. We stopped for a beer and chatted a bit, then the pretty one asked if I wanted to go with her, and said her room was near, no problem. Of course, I jumped at the chance, and agreed ST 500.

When we got to her room, it was occupied. Turns out it wasn't her room, but a friend's room(supposedly). We sat on the steps outside the room for 20 or 30 minutes. Finally, a farang emerges and hurries past us. Then out comes a strange-looking guy dressed only in shorts. I think he was a ladyboy, but looked more like a man. No tits, big for a Thai guy, but with long hair, cut somewhat like a woman's, and I think he had a little bit of make-up on. She talks to him in Thai, then as we enter the room, he heads off down the hallway, not in the direction of the stairs.

We sat on the bed and chatted a little bit, then undressed each other. She had a very nice body. Then she wanted 1000 Baht. I said, "No, we agreed 500." She said, "OK, but 100 extra for the room my friend." On this, she insisted, so, ignoring the little voice in my head that was yelling, "Rip-off!" and listening to my little head, that was saying, "Give her the money and let's get on with it. Look at that body!!", I reached for my slacks and handed over the 600 Baht. She put the $ away, and sat down beside me, and stroked my **** a few times. I kissed her neck, and slid my hand down to her crotch, and began to play with it. But, then, she suddenly pulled away, stood up, and said, "OK, you go now!"

I was blown away. Half of me was saying, "I don't believe this. There must be some kind of mistake here," and the other half was saying, "You should have seen it coming, you sucker!" I tried to talk to her, but she just kept repeating, "You go now!" as she started dressing. Then I got pissed, dressed quickly, and told her, in no uncertain terms, to give me my money back. She ran to the door, opened it, ducked out, and called out to someone, and in a moment the weird guy/LB was back, still dressed in just his shorts. Apparently, he had been standing in the hall the whole time. As soon as he entered, I blew past him and out the door.

I was so mad, I was seeing red. I stood there, at the top of the stairs, screaming at her, as it was now apparent to me that the whole thing was a setup. She stood a few steps away, screaming back at me, and her friend stood behind her, in the doorway. We were making quite a ruckus, and I was afraid the security guard at the front door would come up and get involved. Finally, seeing that the situation was hopeless, I left, with me yelling up the stairs and and her down at me as I went.

I went to a bar, had a few cold ones and tried to calm down. About an hour later, I was on the street, headed for the hotel, when I saw her with her GF again, and the weird guy wasn't with them. I accosted her, told her to give me my money, and threatened to punch her lights out. I smacked my fist loudly into my palms a couple times, then did it right in front of her face, and told her I meant business. She backed off, grabbed her shoe off her foot, and threatened me with the heel of it, swinging it in my direction. We were starting to attract a crowd of onlookers, what with all the yelling and feinting attacks at each other. I was yelling, "Rip-off, *****, *****", and every other nasty thing I could think of, at her. But, finally, I could see that no good could come of it. So then I started screaming, "Get out of here! Get the **** out of my sight, you good-for-nothing *****," and so on. I backed away, so there was some distance between us now, and put my fists down. When, at last, I shut up, she added a few nasty last words, then turned and began to walk away from me.

Feeling one last surge of anger as I watched her go, I ran up behind her and gave her a good hard boot in the ass. She squealed in surprise, and, in a minute, had her shoe off again, and was coming at me with it. I was now laughing my ass off at her, and stood my ground, saying, "Come on, come and get it, come and get your ass kicked(again)!" She took a swing at me with the heel, but wasn't really close enough to hit me, as she didn't want to chance it. After a bit of her screaming, and me taunting her, she finally gave up and backed away, one shoe on and one off, until she was down the street and the crowd closed in and separated us. Then I went back to my hotel.

To this day, I've never spent another night in the Khao San Road area. And never ever will I pay a girl in advance again. If a girl asks for payment in advance, I ask her to leave immediately!

Of course, through the lens of time, this seems like a silly, and risky bit of nonsense to have made such a fuss and racket over 600 Baht. But, it is not so much the money, as what it does to your head, when, one moment, you think you are with a nice, sexy girl, who "likes" you, and wants to give you a good time for your $, and, then, all in an instant, your excitement and anticipation of pleasure turns into a realization that you are the victim of a cold, calculating, rip-off artist. Partly, it is the principle of the fact that she is stealing from you, but even more than that, it is the fact that you have just been mind-f*cked!!

 

[Marie]

funny story , giving her a quick up the ass is hilarious but it probably was a bit risky to make such a fuss
Tas

 

[Cloe Scott]

Agreed! But it did make me feel a little bit better at the time.

 

[Claire D]

Personally, I don't buy this "risky" scenario thing. I'd much rather hang on to my own moral principles and values given the situation at hand then to succumb to the possible consequences that may be caused by my actions. Deport, jail, fight.... bring it on...

I've always found that regardless of what country/state/county/city you are in... so far anyway... that if you are truly in the right, then people truly can tell.

But, I do appreciate the comments. Bottom line is that sometimes.... it's OK to have a carrot, just put a stick and a string on it.

 

[Lottie]

A very western concept that I wouldnt try to push in much of the world..

Right and wrong.. Power matter more..

 

[Pompal 09.]

Geez, what a story TM. Not sure if I would have wanted to take the chance with going to jail especially not in another country.mg:

Don't know, if I were a BG I would have took it fer granted that the money you put on the table was my fee.

I never leave money out unless I intend to give it to them. My dough is usally hinden and out of sight...no:

Glad it worked out for you TanMan. Wouldn't want to see you on the Thai police blotter....:thumbsdow

 

[love your creator]

3. She did like that shot of Tequila before leaving the bar to get the nerve to go with customers.[/I]

Having read what transpired I rather think the shot was to give her the nerve to rip you off and it was something she did regularly. Probably her boyfriends' idea.

Glad to hear you came away unscathed apart from the dent to your pride and a slightly lighter wallet. The Bangkok Hilton would not have been a nice place to spend New Year!

 

[Extra Crispy]

Whoaa.....TM......I know how you feel, when you say "Its a matter of principle"......I would have done the same many years ago...but today i would have paid and talked to mamasan at bar.....problems is, sometimes you meet freelancers at these places also.