Are qualifications required?

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Hello, may sound like a silly question but do i need a qualification to practice massage in order get paid for my service?

I'm in my early fourties and male. i'm also aware that i may not get the right kind of custom as I only expect to massage my client's in a totally apropriate manner and not be called out to hunky men, etc.

Many thanks

PS: I'm Hindu male, does anyone think my better option may be to learn 'indian head massage'?
 
In short, to practice on the public you should have insurance, and to get insurance you will require a qualification.

Practice without at your own risk.

Love and Reiki Hugs
 
Got to agree with Giles. Also, there is no reason why you shouldn't practice Indian Head Massage but we warned that you need insurance (and qualification) for that as well. But it is a wonderful therapy.

Love
 
Hi MSG2004

Welcome to the forum.

At the moment you do not need qualifications in the UK to practice as a massage therapist and it seems to be that if you have not been formally trained then you seem not to be deemed as responsible for the therapy you give as opposed to someone who has undergone formal training and should therefore be competent and professional.

However it is important that you do not advertise yourself or claim to be qualified if you are not.

Insurance is optional in your situation but can be found online if you look.
 
Interesting Paul. I know I'd rather have a massage from someone who is qualified though. Surprising how easy it can be to damage the body with the slightest pressure in the wrong place....
 
if im honest, i would not go to someone who wasnt qualified, like giles has said, damage can be done without even knowing it.

i would like to know that someone is taking it seriously by getting the qualification not just doing it for something to do.

no qualification = no insurance - on your own head be it!
 
Hello Paul and everyone else

Thanks for all the help. i too am a bit surprised that you do not need to be qualified in order to practice massage and get paid for this without actually sitting any qualifications.

Thanks all, i wil search the Google for at home training courses for certification over the next few days and decided.
 
Hi Giles

I worked myself for several years without qualifications so I could fully develop my intuition before I took on the a&p etc. which gives you a different perspective on what you are doing.

Insurance and qualifications was not as important as your ability to do the job in those days.

I have also received some wonderful treatments from unqualified naturals and I must admit some appalling treatments from people with strings of letters after their name.

Just because someone decides that this or that is the correct way to teach and do things does not always make it necessarily so :)
 
I know what you mean Paul and I'm sure you're aware that I'm coming purely from the point of view that with today's society you just can't afford the risk. It's too much of a blame culture out there.

Love and Reiki Hugs
 
Keep em coming guys.

Thanks for all the input!

I know it's a difficult question to answer - but how much could i earn if i was avialable all the time and did an hours massage for 20 pounds - all help sincerely appreciated.
 
No formal qualifications in math either eh????
I have a friend in the States who is a 'mobile' therapist in New Jersey - she does 5/6 treatments a day, 6 days a week - for around $1500 a week. She works 3 weeks, then has one week off, otherwise she suffers 'burnout'. She also had a few years working on Caribbean cruise ships - OK for the first year but she missed daylight after a while! The money, however, was extremely good. She invested in a lightbox for her cabin which helped.
 
Those with no training may give a good massage in most circumstances, but how do they deal (or do they deal) with anyone with any kind of contraindication? Are they aware of necessary treatment adjustments to be made? To me this is the most important aspect of treating clients - treating each as an individual and knowing how to treat in each case.

I would also add that a home study course is probably not the best way to go (and it would be best to check if you can get insurance for whatever course you do). You will need lots of hands on experience. There is a lot written about such courses on these forums, so do a search, have a read and then make up your mind.

Lesley
 
Thanks Jaba!

Aromababe - contraindications - surely it's common sense?

Broken leg - do not massage.

Operation wound healing - stay clear.

Swollen joints, keep clear.

Osteoporosis - treat with care and check severity - etc -etc.

Any help re other situations other than those mentioned and skin conditions?

Thanks again all, very help!

Thank you,
 
If only it were that simple.

Unfortunately, there are many qualified therapists who cannot agree what is or is not a contraindication. Conditions such as cancer, epilepsy, diabetes, high blood pressure and (history of) thrombosis, can all be considered as possible contraindications by some therapists, although others may be happy to treat a client with such conditions.

Lesley
 
to be honest there is only so much you can learn on a course or at college. formal training cannot give you the intuition and healing touch that you need. it also cannot fully prepare you for every circumstance or condition that you will encounter in your practice. you really learn how to be a good massage therapist on the job. but i find it slightly disconcerting that people might start charging clients with no formal massage training. let's face it, training provides you with the foundation upon which you then build. i mean, you might be a good cook but that doesn't make you a chef. i agree, there are bad therapists out there who have had formal training... but imagine what they'd be like if they had had no training at all?

i wouldn't be too concerned about money because you'll be disappointed. the first year is generally slow. concentrate on your development. if you are any good, the money will come.

good luck!

henry
 
Another aspect of treating clients with no qualifications is the litigation culture we are now experiencing. If a client sued you for doing them harm during a massage, you are going to have quite a battle on your hands without insurance/legal backup etc that you would get with qualifications. Qualifications lead you to registration with the organisations such as Federation of Holistic Therapists or ITEC, BABTAC, etc. This gives you extra credibility in your profession.

Love
 
Reading some of the replies to this question really begs the question what massage and other therapists did before so called official training, governing bodies and insurance came around in the last centaury.

Massage alongside many other natural therapies have been safely and successfully practiced for many thousands of years without any interference from governments etc.

Please do not misunderstand me because there is a place for official training but it cannot take the place of experience which has to be learned actually doing the job.

Just how many people give their partners/children or friends a massage without any formal training and just how many of the recipients promptly drop dead afterwards because the giver did not do a consultation etc.

IMO massage is one of the easiest and safest things to do, the only complicated thing which is a recent addition is the anatomy and physiology, this in reality does not improve the quality of the massage at all, it just allows us to communicate with medical professionals using their jargon when describing what we find beneath our hands.
 
contra-indications to massage,
Pregnacy under 3 months I personally perfer them to be at least six months pregnant
gross swelling
diabetes
excessive hairy areas
open wounds
broken limbs
menstrul cycle, the stomach is mostly avoided to prevent heaviness
Some say epilepsy to due to triggering on attack and being high up, on a plynth, may cause damage, esp, if a attack occurs.

Hope this helps, as the rest say its better to be safe than sorry, always cover yourself esp, when it comes to insurance purposes or liability, believe me I have seen some people will try anything to sue.
 
So you would never give anyone a head massage?



I always give my client the choice to have their abdomen massaged if they are menstruating. Most of them find it quite soothing, especially if I use a little chamomile essential oil - helps with any pain.

So, this is exactly my point, MSG2004. We all have different ideas and none of us are wrong, but training enables us to make informed decisions which we wouldn't be able to make without the knowledge of anatomy and physiology and different techniques.

I agree with Paul that our training is just a starting point and that we are on a course of lifelong learning, but without that initial training, our starting point is much further back.

Lesley
 
Remember that MSG2004 said he was a Hindu. Dont know about him personally, but in many Hindu families, massage is a part of daily life, therefore MSG2004 could have actually been practising massage since childhood. Perhaps an on-line qualification in his case may be sufficient? Unlike us westerners who in some cases had never even touched another human prior to doing a massage course.
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Nana๐Ÿ˜˜ is a sexy young slim Malaysian g
  35. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด:[/color] 3 Hot Girls today at Alice Spa: AMY (11:30am โ€“ 9:00pm is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. KITTY (10:00am - 9:00pm) : is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business. Very friendly, no rush, dfk, bb
  36. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Sunday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY. CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. AMORE SPA is a well established holistic spa in Etobicoke with 3 massage rooms & 1 common shower room
  37. princess25:
    GREENWAY SPA 4907 yonge street fl2 in North york.cal:416-512-9693 susan is sexy lady with big boobs,suki is very slim & cute young lady.kelly is young lady wirh laeger breasts and a nice bottom.booking now.
  38. SunriseRH:
    SUNDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: NAYLA & TIANA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ NAYLA is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. Come and say hola. NANA is a slim & pretty Chinese lady with liberal services. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5โ€™6โ€ & 120Lbs, possessing 36DD-28-39 assets to drive you crazy. SUNRISE SPA
  39. NewOriental:
    SUNDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐ŸHAPPY, KAT & MIMI. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. KAT is BEAUTIFUL, young & slim with C Cups , a tasty figure & a tasty menu. MIMI is a slim and pretty Chinese Attendant with a positive demeanor
  40. ASPA:
    ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL.[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable.
  41. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Lin Very Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ5โ€™ 1โ€, 100 lbs Blonde Hairโ€จGreat BBJ, CIM โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  42. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Nancy Vietnamese BBBJ/CIM Queen Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl She is 5โ€™ 2โ€ tall, 98 Lbs With D Cup Melons Great Fashion Style โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Anida, Jennifer & Mia. Anida is a slim Asian babe with a small waist and great bum. Anita has excellent massage, oral and other skills. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more.
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAmy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Jessy with slime body open mind 30โ€™s and young cute Summer with slime body 30s, sweet EFG Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY & SHAYLA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. SHAYLA is a very sexy Vietnamese lady, slim and beautiful, and her services are exceptional, can do bbbj. Sugar Love Spa
  47. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Shasa,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  48. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Helen๐ŸฅฐBrand new very young university student from Hong Kong. Great massage skills with a wild flirtatious side willing to tease and please to bring you to satisfaction. Perky natural 34C breasts perfect for kissing and body slide
  50. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
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