Are there other forms of session notes besides SOAP & CA

[KLJ08]

Are there other forms of session notes besides SOAP and CARE?

If so, do you know of any info on the web? I found this about SOAPs. http://www.massagemag.com/Magazine/2001/issue94/advice94.php

It says if you do a lot of spa stuff, you dont have to have as in depth charting. Actually, I think the article contradicts itself a bit. In one part, it says SOAPs are a legal way of stating what your hands are doing, that it is a contract between us and the client, and if anything goes wrong and we are sued, the SOAP is proof of what we did. Then, it goes on to mention that in a spa setting, noting oil scents and music is enough. WTF? What do oil scents and music have to do with our hands?

Do you do something different than SOAP or CARE? If so, what do you do?

Is there anyone else out there who hates SOAP notes? Or maybe I am just doing them wrong?

Here are a few more links I found about charting:

http://www.thebodyworker.com/bus_what_should_soap_charts_say.htm

http://www.massageandbodywork.com/Articles/AprilMay2003/CAREnotes.html

 

[thomas p]

I don't like the SOAP format, either. I think I just don't understand it well enough. I made my session notes based on the format of what we used in school.

Interview Information: (What the client tells me)

Session Plan: (Specific techniques or general goals)

Review Summary: (What actually went on, what differed from plan, things I noticed while working)

Evaluation: (How things went, client's reactions, general comments, and things I want to do or remember next session)


I have a hard splitting that into subjective, objective, assesment, and plan. Plan for the session, or plan for future sessions? Where do I make note of what techniques I worked? What if I don't do specific muscle testing every session to make assesments with? Why are my observations considered objective? Or, is that objective like, session objective/goal? I like the flow of mine better.

edit: Reading about CARE notes, seems like that's pretty close to what I do...

 

[Baby]

Seebs,

I like your way better than soaps.

I want a computer program to do session notes on. I have never seen a computer program that wasnt using SOAP format.

Is it possible to do session notes (of any type) on a computer using word, notepad, or some other program like these? Problem is, you cannot sign these notes unless you print them out.

I hate paper.

 

[Ericho]

Seebs,

I like your way better than soaps.

Thanks

I want a computer program to do session notes on. I have never seen a computer program that wasnt using SOAP format.

Is it possible to do session notes (of any type) on a computer using word, notepad, or some other program like these? Problem is, you cannot sign these notes unless you print them out.

Yeah, the program I use only allows SOAP notes. I've tried adapting the sections to suit my needs, but it's tedious and not very compatible. I just use paper

I hate paper.

The good thing about paper is you can hold your clip board while talking to the client in the treatment room or wherever, and jot quick notes. Half the treatment record is completed (the interview and plan) before you begin the actual session.

 

[Final Dexter]

Seebs, how many sessions do you get on a piece of paper?

 

[KissYourNosie]

agreed

Yes Great Lakes, good reply, this is true, it just depends on your status of employment. I like them either way, through my employed place which do not use them, but to just add to a record of my own I use it privately for my own evaluations, because I'm more therapeutic than the salon I work for.

It is also that I keep the same fee as my employer so I can have no issues on prices.

I like the clipboard. brings me back to school where it was fun while it lasted, I do think of my classmates then. I'm sure everyone who went to class and clicked with everyone I partied with, are very missed.

Oh those were the days ok I'm getting mushy

 

[sitnfish]

I am not sure of other states, but in mine, SOAP's are not required, even ABMP doesnt require SOAP's, just 'session notes."

I really think my school should have at least mentioned there was other ways out there besides SOAP.

Writing a relaxation massage in SOAP format is usually pretty silly, if not impossible, at least for me! I end up feeling like I MUST put something in, even if I dont feel it is very relevent... just for the sake of having something to write.