Article from The Chiropractic Journal

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This article is from the current issue of The Chiropractic Journal: http://www.worldchiropracticalliance.org/tcj/2004/jul/ricchio.htmHere is the text of the article:
Creating a profitable massage program by Dr. Geoff RicchioIf the average DC would stand on the corner and hold up a sign reading "Free Chiropractic Treatment," how many people would line up? If a massage therapist stood on that same corner and held up a sign that said "Free 30-Minute Massage," how many people would get in line?It's likely many people would line up for massage versus chiropractic care.Why?The simple fact is that everybody loves massage, but not many people understand or even want chiropractic care. This may upset many readers, but the truth hurts and when it comes to chiropractic care, we're only targeting a very small portion of the population at large.I have used massage therapists in my practice for the last 18 years and found them to be an incredible adjunct, not only contributing to improved patient retention but increased income as well.But how does the average doctor add or include massage in his or her practice? How does the doctor hire, pay and market the massage therapy program?I'd like to outline some points about massage therapy (I call them "Ricchio's Rules") that may be helpful in your office.-- Rule #1. Massage therapists are difficult to deal with. Make no mistake about it, MTs are at times scary people to deal with. All my problems with workers in my office have always been with massage therapists. They have a hard time adhering to normal office hours or even office protocol.-- Rule #2. Never overpay a massage therapist. When these people get out of school, they seem to think they deserve $60 per hour! Yet, I've found that MTs will work harder for you at $20 per hour than $60 hourly. It's important that you set up a payment schedule that not only rewards them for good work but more work as well.-- Rule #3. Only hire female therapists. I know this is wrong to do, but it only takes one male massage therapist to touch a woman inappropriately and you're sued and shut down by the Sheriff's department.-- Rule #4. Create a low cost massage program for the general public so that they can use your office for low cost massage therapy. I have a system for chiropractors that enables them to create a profit center that pays them a regular income month after month. My massage program paid my office $24,500 every month for years. Not bad income for a wellness program.-- Rule #5. Have your massage program available for the business community. Many businesses around your office would love to set up a massage wellness program for their employees. You can do this for them and make an incredible amount of monthly income. This is a terrific way to increase your new patient base.-- Rule #6. Do massage seven days per week. That's right, your office could be generating income for you even on Saturdays and Sundays. I found that Sundays have been an incredible addition to my office. People love to come in on the weekend because they are free. We've even done massage until 10pm!Massage therapy properly managed at your office will provide a steady stream of new patients and passive income for years to come. By doing this program at your office, I am confident you will create a lifetime income stream unheard of until now.
Wow. ย Does this offend anyone besides me? ย Especially rules #1 - #3.
 
Article from The Chiropractic Journal

I have a system...

Many people who advertise in a news journal like this one, saying they have a system (a more precise verbage than before, thanks to a welcome comment ย :P), well, you know as good as I, they are only out to make money. ย Could have been a large day spa saying the same thing. ย I hope this article just lets everyone keep in mind, get to know who you plan to work for, and I hope the the chiro's, as a whole, don't get a bad rap for one man's poor attitude.
 
Article from The Chiropractic Journal

I think someone ought to let his therapists read this....then leave his (_(_) high and dry.What a jerk.Robyn
 
I sent the butmunch an email. Told him what a joke we thought he was ย lol i couldnt resist! I work for a chiro, too, and let him know that i thanked GOD he didnt treat me the way that fool suggested. grr
 
A few of my own thoughts about "Ricchio's Rules"...#1: I wouldn't consider myself "difficult to deal with" - very far from it. ย I've met very few massage therapists who I would describe as difficult to deal with and I resent the generalization. ย I'm sure that if I were faced with a set of unrealistic demands (like being expected to work all weekend or work until 10pm) ย for a below-average salary by a man who obviously didn't appreciate or respect my talents for any purpose besides his own financial gain... then YES I'm sure I could become difficult to deal with. ย This man does not sound like a dream to work for - more like a nightmare!#2: Wow, when he said that he's "used" massage therapists in his practice for the last 18 years, he wasn't kidding! ย Gee, maybe he'd have an easier time attracting and retaining good, reliable therapists if he'd pay them what they're worth?#3: Only hire female therapists???? Last I knew, gender-based discrimination was illegal. ย He KNOWS it's wrong and even states this fact, yet he's still advocating it in a "respected" trade journal. ย I'm surprised this crap even got published!Ironically, now that this article has been published and he's openly admitted to discrimination - he's got a real reason for the law to come shut him down or at least fine him.Thankfully, not all chiropractors share this man's attitude.
 
Article from The Chiropractic Journal

MichelleTX,

I don't know that I'd go so far as to say that is a

... "respected" trade journal.

There is a lot of marketing that is pushed on chiropractic and though the WCA is an organization, that is far from a Journal. ย But, if you want to see some "good journals, take a look at these: ย :)

Spine -
http://www.spinejournal.com/pt/re/spine/home.htm;jsessionid=Azk3cuueDoxPMyOEBi1bc9e4hjxbJkF6mLx1HzVWlunByCg1Eqq9!1873962875!-949856031!9001!-1

Journal of Manipulative and Physiological Therapeutics (JMPT) -
http://www2.us.elsevierhealth.com/scripts/om.dll/serve?action=searchDB&searchdbfor=home&id=pt

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Hope not to offend or make it look like I am suggesting anyone treat another human being this way, but at the same time, I can say when I was in college and I needed a job desperately, I was happy to take whatever I could get, even if it meant working with someone with values like that. ย For some people who need a job, that type of work can become a blessing, in a strange way. ย :-/
 
Article from The Chiropractic Journal

Yeah, the guy's a jerk, but , it's interesting, Michelle, if you're so concerned about what's legal, how come you violate federal copyright law? ย  ::)

That is so uncool. ย 

Irrelevent and unprofessional personal comments such as this are counterproductive for everyone's time and energy. ย I always appreciate Michelle's contributions to the board. ย I don't understand why you would want to try to invalidate her post by switching topics and putting her on the spot... Why so touchy? ย :( ย Is it to say that the post would have been more credible if someone else posted it? ย ::)

I'm glad she shared this article with the board and shed a glint of light on what DC's might be thinking of us, especially DC's that are making tons of money over and above what they are willing to pay their employees. ย I also think she made excellent points, and still managed to come back with an excellent response to the post while I was still rendered speechless by this DC's opinions.
 
Article from The Chiropractic Journal

After reading this thread again, in case I might have come across as offensive to anyone, I do agree, it was a good thing to post, if for no reason than to see how some people (quite a few actually) try to manipulate massage therapists for their gain.I hope we all are able to rise above the need to work for someone like this and ever the circumstance to treat someone like this.I wish better days for us all. ย We have such a great group on these boards. ย Thanks for the comments!
 
I worked for 2 years for an individual (not a chiro) with much the same attitude and "system" before I saw that I was being used with little regard to my health and well-being. ย This person went to massage school when she saw what I could bring in and made the comment to me ย " I can pay an employee $6.00 an hour to work the front desk while I make $45 an hour in the treatment room." ย Now that she understands the physical, emotional, and mental demands that this career demands she is singing a different tune entirely! ย 
 
Violation of copyright laws? ย Reprinting as a quotation, having not only listed the author and the source of the article but providing the web address. ย Hmmm isn't that what you have to do when doing a research paper at the high school level?
 
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Hope not to offend or make it look like I am suggesting anyone treat another human being this way, but at the same time, I can say when I was in college and I needed a job desperately, I was happy to take whatever I could get, even if it meant working with someone with values like that. ย For some people who need a job, that type of work can become a blessing, in a strange way. ย :-/

Thank you. ย I was hoping that someone would find a positive side to this article! ย You're right, this doctor's office would ย be an excellent opportunity for someone fresh out of school who needs a job while they look for a job. ย If working for this man gives someone the experience and confidence they need to get the job they really want, then I guess it can be a good thing. :)

I will check out those other journals. ย After flipping through the print version of this "journal" I saw that it was mostly advertising for equipment, for CEU's, and for lots of money making "systems" as you mentioned.

PS. Before the topic gets derailed any further by copyright issues, here's a link:
http://www.nolo.com/lawcenter/ency/article.cfm/ObjectID/C3E49F67-1AA3-4293-9312FE5C119B5806 ย 

The article that I posted was for the sake of "criticism and comment" only and not for the sake of commercial gain, so it would technically be considered "fair use" of the article. ย However, should the Chiropractic Journal or Dr. Ricchio ask me to edit my post to include only the link and not the quoted text, I will respectfully do so without question. Now, back to the regularly scheduled discussion.
 
Article from The Chiropractic Journal

MichelleTX wrote:
Now, back to the regularly scheduled discussion.
*chuckles* ย and then notices I have four stars by my name. ย Wow, seems I talk an awful lot.Glad I could find something positive in all of that -- usually I am not too good at it. ย  :)
 
>>I have four stars by my name. ย Wow, seems I talk an awful lot. Almost a God! ย ;)Seriously, Good Discussion. ย Thanks.
 
I was offending by all his rules, but I was really offended by #3 (I'm male). ย Another thing that was posted was Texas-gal's comment "Anyone who has a system, well, you know as good as I, they are only out to make money." ย I have a system for my business (I know we are all in business to make money, or else we are not in business for long) but its not just about money. ย I am in business to help people and I do help alot of people. ย Texas-gal, I am not upset or 'offended' by this I just wanted to point out not everyone with a system is out for the money.
 
Maybe the reason the Chiropractor does this is because he can't seem to generate any business on his own and NEEDS as massage therapist to bring in business. ย Clients can tell when someone doesn't like their job or them.....maybe that was this guy's problem. ย But then it could be the Doctor is God mentality. ย Knew a nurse who went to med school and this one instructor told the med students to never listen to a nurse, that they were stupid and didn't know anything. ย Gee that's funny.......especially when it's a nurse who tells the doctor what is right or wrong with their patient for the day. ย Maybe the chiropractor is just jealous. ย Who knows. ย But I'm sure those statements will not do anything good for his karma.
 
*winks at BigDog* -- good point.Hits the modify button and makes a change that is more along the precise lines of what I meant. ย *many people who advertise in a news journal like this one, saying they have a system*
 
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    Happy Sunday!!๐Ÿ’œโŽShangri-la Spa & SL WestโŽ ๐Ÿ’– your best destination for luxury Asian massages in GTA ๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakville. 9 stunning Girls from China, Hong Kong, Japan & Korea โ€” Coco, Yoyo, Tina, Eva, JPN Yui, Suki, 36D busty Julie, Sophia & Tiffany โ€” ready to spoil you silly โœจ Table Shower special on now! ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Summon Us: ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ ๐Ÿ’ฐLet the fun times roll, baby!๐Ÿ™Œ
  29. Anonymous Mask:
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  30. starartwork:
    Where does Indian SARIKA of Lily Spa work now?
  31. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  32. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  33. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  34. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietn
  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบOpen Sunday Wonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800.very big boost Joey and Sunny working today,Joey is sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice Sunny can provide deep tissue massage,she got a lot experience,come see them today,welcome to walk in๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ‘™much try๐Ÿท๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  36. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด:[/color] Hot Busty BLONDE Girl today at Alice Spa: ELLA (12pm-9pm): is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. Alice Spa has DEBIT PAYMENT available now! Plenty of free parking. Front and back entrance. ALICE SPA, 4915 Steeles Ave. E,
  37. xodyhard:
    Anyone know tracy from forever spa,does anyone where she working aside in forever spa?
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธYoYo๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธHellen Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. ASPA:
    ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL.[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer & Mia. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAmy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธTiffanyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Jessica ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  44. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, PREET, KIRAN, ANNA, NISHA, SALMA, SABHA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  45. Applover:
    This chat is something. So no one believes Markkk
  46. Applover:
    This chat is something
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CARA & JOLIE. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Helen๐ŸฅฐBrand new very young university student from Hong Kong. Great massage skills with a wild flirtatious side willing to tease and please to bring you to satisfaction. Perky natural 34C breasts perfect for kissing and body slide
  49. hiyamickey:
    Reinella wellness will have 6 girls working, young petite Japanese girl Amanda, Queenie, Lucky, Jenny, Vanessa, Ella @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey