Can I Charge while training?

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Hi Everyone,

Have been reading the boards for the last few weeks and found them so so helpful.

I am currently doing the ITEC holistic massage course and was thinking I would hire the local village hall for a few evenings over the next couple of months. It has a small meeting room which would be ideal to do massage from and I thought I might advertise for clients in the local villages to get as much practice as possible and try and build up a base of potential clients for when I am qualified.

I was wondering if I am I allowed to charge for treatments while I am still a student to cover the costs of hiring the hall etc?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.

Jo
 
I would be inclined to only treat family and friends. You hold yourself up to problems otherwise.

I'm sure you are not allowed to charge until you are qualified, your insurance may not allow it either.
 
You wouldn't be covered by insurance - at the moment you are covered by college insurance BUT only to treat on college premises under supervision etc..

If somebody were to have a reaction (whether this was down to you or not) they could very easily sue you - not a good thing!

I dont think you can actually charge anyway till your qualified - If you treat friends and family you can ask for 'donations' But to actually hire somewhere and charge is asking for trouble im afraid..

But you should deffo keep the place in mind for when you do qualify, as it could be a great starting block for you! x
 
Yes, check with your insurance - I wasn't allowed to charge when I was training (but that was a very long time ago!) as I was deemed 'unqualified' until I had the piece of paper to prove I had passed the course. Also, the village hall committee may not allow you to work/use the space, if you are uninsured.
 
If you give treatments to people, whether you are a student, unqualified or qualified therapist you should have an insurance.

I think it is irrelevant if you are charging or giving free treatments. As even highly qualified therapists, giving free treatments must have an insurance if they wish to work in a responsible way to protect themselves and their clients.

I think you could charge for your time, expenses of hire and materials.
 
Thanks everyone for your advice. I do have my own student insurance through the Complementary Therapist Association for my case studies, so I have emailed them to find out if I would be covered for this activity. I did a two week intensive course at college and am now on my own until exams in December to learn and practice as much as possible so am therefore not covered by college insurance.

Thanks again.

Jo
 
Hi all,

I have asked my insurance which was through the Complementary Therapists Association, and they said:

'Our policy does not prohibit you from charging to cover your expenses but you should not charge a full rate as if you are qualified. What is important is that your clients are aware that you are not yet qualified and that the premises are suitable for the purpose for which you wish to use them.'

So I think I will be okay.

Thanks all for your help.

Jo
 
ah thats good then! You could maybe put on the consultation form a disclaimer for the client to sign saying something like 'I am aware that (your name) is not yet fully qualified and I am happy to receive the above treatment from them' or words to that affect.
Just looks a bit more professional and there can be no comeback from anyone saying they did not know you were not yet qualified etc, just to cover your own back.

Good luck with it and I hope you gain many future and regular clients from it!
 
Hi Squidges,

I say be bold and start charging people now! Whilst training. Even if it is only ยฃ20. When I took my Swedish massage course there was a woman who was charging ยฃ25 a pop for her case study massages (that was 7 years ago). The rest of us were in quiet admiration of her self belief and confidence, which is what we lacked and what kept us from doing that. We thought we weren't good enough to do that.
Who doesn't want to earn something while they are training - and why shouldn't one? You are still providing a service, and no doubt a relaxing one. Don't even tell clients that you are not yet qualified. No one will care (as long as you give a good massage!). Be bold. The massage business has been a real and constant challenge to my self belief, and it has taught me many great things.

Good luck!

J
 
Yes definitely, it's your time and products (also you have to be rewarded for typing up those boring bliddy case studies ). Just say something like, I am training and the prices reflect this, I used to charge a tenner, (petrol, oil etc) Hope this helps
 
I like your style! I need to toughen up I think! When I studied for my Swedish Massage VTCT I did several friends (in fact they were queuing up!) and charged nothing.

One of them gave me a thank you card and a bunch of flowers which was really appreciated.

Now I'm studying for IHM and, again, friends are offering their services.

Going back a long way, I remember a local woman training in massage and she used to have a donation box and "suggested" a donation of ยฃ10. She was very confident in her ability too and had no qualms at all about pointing the box out to you and saying "I'm not allowed to charge because I'm not fully qualified but I need to cover the costs of my oils, towels, laundry etc".
 
Personally I think it is a bit cheeky to charge whilst training and so have never done so in the 13 years I have practised/trained in the different therapies I do. My reason is very simple; without the case studies you wouldn't be able to pass in the first place.

If people want to make a donation, great, but I think this 'industry' is already very mercenary.
 
I'm in two minds about charging during training. On one hand, colleges charge for clients to come in & get a treatment by students. My college charges ยฃ10 for an Aroma massage (which is what I'm currently studying) which I would say is fair as the client is still receiving a full treatment (be it a student or not) & the college are providing use of their oils, equipment & facilities. So, I feel if the training facility charges then there's nothing wrong with you personally requesting a donation to contribute in some small way to your course costs & additional expenses.

OTOH, I do agree with Delighted that without case studies, we wouldn't be able to get through the course & I do feel that my case studies would be doing ME a favour. After all, I am asking for their time & commitment.

So, I'm not sure. I definitely think there is something in the idea of attaching value to what you're doing as people will line up around the block when they think they're getting a freebie but aren't quite as enthusiastic if they have to pay. Funny, though, our tutor did mention that one of the reasons the college charges is because they have a hard time getting people to commit to ongoing free treatments.

I think I will just ask for a small donation from my case studies (maybe ยฃ3.50 per session) and perhaps just a bit more for single treatments.
 
I am definitely going to ask for donations for the cost of oils, towels etc as I am on benefits with a young son and can't afford to be forking out for these all the time and not earning anything. My college charges ยฃ10.00 for clients to come in for massage, so I don't think it's out of order if I ask for a donation of ยฃ5-10. Especially as I have had extremely good feedback from everyone I have massaged before. I have been massaging people for many years, but am only just going for my qualification.

Donna.
 
I never charged for my reflexology etc but now doing aromatherapy at a different college we have been encouraged to charge to cover expenses empahising that we are students and making sure clients sign disclaimer
 
When I trained in holistic therapies we weren't allowed to charge. I did see case studies outside of college time which I was covered to do with the college insurance/FHT student insurance. I just treated friends anf family and friends of friends etc. and some of them gave me donations towards treatments or cooked me dinner in return which was lovely.

I am currently training to be a Hypnotherapist and after our 7th month, we are oblidged to start charging a discount rate to clients and we are covered to do this.
 
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  36. Nu spring spa888:
    โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธsexy hot Germany๐ŸŒธKorean ๐ŸŒธ Filipino girl working at๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“ Nu spring spa โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  37. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนyoung friendly new CiCi, back walk,deep to relax,open mind,amazing ending๐Ÿ”ฅ,bring you warm comfortable timeโค๏ธ๐ŸŽˆ
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธMonika๐ŸŒธLayra Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  41. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (9PMโ€“2AM), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  42. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  43. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA (Iran), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA (Hungary), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  44. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Japanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses
  45. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: APPLE (11am-9pm): from Hong Kong, very small body, 5' 100Lbs, petite with natural C Cups, small waist, pretty baby face, smooth skin, very clean. Shaved tight Pu**y, strong professional massage. Available FS bbbj cim cof rim. CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, NANCY, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. NANCY is a curvy and very friendly Spanish girl, who has all the versatile skills you need. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25โ€™s with curve body and sexy Coco, pretty Ella and flirty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls working today. Niko and Kiki. They are both young, pretty and cute. The massage and back walking were very good.
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
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