child/no sense of smell

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calling all holistic therapists:

my child has no sense of smell. not sure that he ever has. he's an INCREDIBLY finicky eater, everything tastes the same. he can't smell a jar of peanut butter, he couldn't smell the smoke the day of the fire, he can't smell a bag of bait fish on the pier. nada.

we've tried the allergy route, no help. this coming monday, he has a contrast MRI scheduled. mostly to see if anything is there. it's a possibility that some bad infection burned out the nerves going into the top of the nose. head trauma could do it too, but neither of those fit this child's past.

he's 8, weighs 47 pounds and is hyperactive.

i currently have him on a great multivitamin, zinc supplement and probiotics.

what techniques/modalities might help and what, if any, thoughts do you have?

thanks a million - i'm posting this as a concerned mom
amanda
 


Does he have allergies then? sinus related issues?

Since he is so young, what about his birth experience? Maybe some cranial can clear something up.

What is his diet like? Since he is so picky, does he fill the need with sugar, dairy???
 


I don't have any advice to offer (sorry :( ) but I just wanted to mention that my dad never had a sense of smell. For the most part he never could really describe the taste of any foods (aside from salty or spicy for the most part) but still managed to enjoy eating a good meal well enough. :)
 


Have you tried any CST? That would personally be my first choice of modalities. Especially since he is young and CST is so gentle and sooo effective. Plus it might help him with the hyperactivity.

Good luck and best wishes for your little man......
 


Amanda, do you have a classical homeopath near where you live? In doing a quick search on my homeopathy software, 106 remedies are indicated for complete loss of smell, 11 of which are strongly indicated. There's a good chance homeopathy can help. If you need a referral, let me know. I also think craniosacral work is a great step.
 


I am going to second the suggestion of CST - I think that will be the best bet.

BTW - my son has Sensory Integration Dysfunction. Mostly he is hypersensitive. He has had to overcome a lot of issues around smell, taste and texture for eating. He still can't eat much of anything. The professionals aren't too supportive - or at least weren't when my son was growing up. Many more OT's are familiar with SI problems than in the past. CST is used for this too.

My best advice is to be your child's best advocate. Trust your own instincts over the "professionals" and try to work with who HE is - not who you are told he "should" be.
 


wow - you guys totally rock!

thank you for all of the supportive replies!

he doesn't have allergies or sinus-related issues.

neither of my children's birth experiences were great. but his was better than hers and he recovered more quickly than i did - emergency c-x after about 4 months of continual hard contractions.

diet: chicken, white cheese, milk, bread. bananas, apples, watermelon. yes, lots of dairy, but that's where he gets most of his protein. but not much sugar - he'll even tell you: "sorry, that has too much sugar in it and it makes me feel weird."

i was wondering about CST - and thinking that might help. i'm in touch with a local therapist here to get an appointment asap. that was my first instinct, but not having any experience with CST i wasn't sure. glad to know that instinct was right!

no, we don't have a classical homeopath. the one that claims he is ... is not. that's a story for another day. that sounds awesome though. i'll pm you with location to see if there's one i don't know about!

re: best advocate. i am doing that and there can be SUCH struggle with that! no one seems to believe that he just can't smell - they think it's for attention. i assure you, it's not. so i'm just going ahead with my gut and we'll see what we can do. maybe nothing - but i hope we can.

the next step is the MRI, then testing of the nerves with a neurologist. but i would LOVE to try the homeopath route too.

thanks again guys!
amanda
 


I'm with the above posters. Perhaps some cranial sacral and some polarity work would help. good luck

Jason
 


I think I would lean towards the CST too (there's a lot of CST in MFR) and I've heard some pretty amazing stories in MFR-I.

Perhaps some intra-oral work would be indicated?

I do think that aromatherapy wise basil and peppermint are recommended for loss of smell.... if that's any help.

You're already doing the zinc, and that's probably the first thing I would have suggested.
 


I would work on getting that protein from other sources. Once you get more veggies in there, you can also cut back on all that fruit. At least he isn't into sugar! Not to many kids can say that.

It is great that others agree with the CST! You are going to have to get the best therapist though.

Kids with a traumatic birth seem to have health issues so that will help get to the core.

PLEASE keep us up to date.

PS. nuts can be added into the diet in various ways. Look into raw food preparation!
 


cool - and with the referral from chris, maybe i'm going in the right direction. i'll keep you posted!
 


makingachange said:
neither of my children's birth experiences were great. but his was better than hers and he recovered more quickly than i did - emergency c-x after about 4 months of continual hard contractions.

4 months of contractions and an emergency c-section?!?!? I would definitely want to know what was going on with his membrane system. CN-I and CN-IX could be restricted in the membrane system. Decrease/no sense of smell is a direct indication for a frontal lift (the vertical membrane system). And taste issues point me to temporals (horizontal membrane system).

Check out this CST post about Newborns and c-sections. I talk about c-sections approx 16 posts into the thread. It's a very brief look at how c-sections might effect the craniosacral system.

The hyperactive part also makes me wonder about general membrane tension.
 


cstbrian said:
makingachange said:
neither of my children's birth experiences were great. but his was better than hers and he recovered more quickly than i did - emergency c-x after about 4 months of continual hard contractions.

4 months of contractions and an emergency c-section?!?!? I would definitely want to know what was going on with his membrane system. CN-I and CN-IX could be restricted in the membrane system. Decrease/no sense of smell is a direct indication for a frontal lift (the vertical membrane system). And taste issues point me to temporals (horizontal membrane system).

Check out this CST post about Newborns and c-sections. I talk about c-sections approx 16 posts into the thread. It's a very brief look at how c-sections might effect the craniosacral system.

The hyperactive part also makes me wonder about general membrane tension.

actually that number DOES sound off - i added the weeks up, i went into labor at 26 & he was born @ 35 so that's 9 weeks. sorry for the exaggeration! i will take this info with me to see the CST in town - i'm waiting for her to call me back now. and i will check that topic when i get back from work tonight and can think straight.

thanks!
 


One more thing for you to think about trying is NAET for diagnosis and treatment. Check out the website for Nambudripad Allergy Elimination Therapy.......
 


anastasia - definitely interesting!

we have the appt with the CST next friday at 10 a.m.! not having any experience with CST i don't know how to explain to my son what the session will be like. and unfortunately, i didn't get to talk with her long enough today to ask that question - any ideas?

brian, thanks for the link re: infants & CST. that was amazing!

amanda
 


Amanda,

Definitely keep us updated on your son & his progress.

I'll see if I can come up with anything on the Jin Shin Jyutsu level which would help you address things at home.

In the meantime I would also say get him into a gluten free diet and see if that helps. Also, if you have any sources for
Raw Milk & raw milk cheeses, he would probably do much better on those than on pasturized dairy. In addition make sure he's kept on a clean diet with no artificial ingredients & food coloring as those are often responsible for a great deal of hyperactivity.

Good luck with everything,
Deb/Riversinger
 


makingachange said:
anastasia - definitely interesting!

we have the appt with the CST next friday at 10 a.m.! not having any experience with CST i don't know how to explain to my son what the session will be like. and unfortunately, i didn't get to talk with her long enough today to ask that question - any ideas?

brian, thanks for the link re: infants & CST. that was amazing!

amanda

Has your son had any reiki sessions in the past? If so, you could tell him that it will feel like a reiki session. He'll remain fully clothed and can sit on the table if he's more comfortable that way. You'll be in the room the entire time. It will feel very light and he might not feel anything happening. It will not (should not) feel painful. When the therapist is working on his head, she will be lightly holding different bones. You may feel tired, you may feel very alert, you might even almost feel a bit dizzy. But nothing uncomfortable. She may talk to you and ask you questions about what you are feeling or she may be very quiet 'concentrating' on her work.

I hope this gives you a few things to say. If you have specific questions, please ask. A lot of the session will depend on the level of pediatrics training the therapist has had. The child needs to be met where he/she is comfortable. I've worked with kids on the table, the floor, on my stool, and even in dad's arms. Whatever is best and most comfortable for the child!

Good luck next Friday. Please keep us posted. And again, if you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
 


follow up:
the incredibly thorough MRI came out beautifully! the eeg was perfect and the neurologist would like to do some genetic testing to rule out anything else. with that chromosome test coming back normal, that will mean that the only reason behind his loss of smell (per the doctors) is a head trauma from when he was 3 (fell and landed on the corner of a brick hearth, injury was to the back of his head).

so, we are thrilled with the results of the testing, and very confidant that CST can help the whole situation! even if it's true about the fall, i know the CST can help that too.

amanda
 


oh, and brian - thanks for your info.

no, he's not had a true reiki session, in that i use reiki with him without it seeming like a regular session, you know? we're at home, he's on the sofa or in bed - but never on a massage table.

i know that tomorrow's (the first) session will be short, and i know that her goal is to build trust and comfort with him. she's also hoping that further down the line, she will be able to work inside of his mouth - now would that be the NMT that i learned during my certification, or is that a CST technique and something different?

thanks again!
 
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    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Doris ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  30. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Connie , Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  31. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Foxy -๐Ÿ”ฅYour new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5โ€™7โ€ sexy Korean girl with a wi
  32. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, 20 years young petite Japanese student Amanda, Queenie, Joliee, Lulu, Angela, Candy, Ella @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  33. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธBree๐ŸŒธFran๐ŸŒธJazmin Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  34. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธVanessaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  35. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MEERA, PRIYA, NINA, MALIYA, NISHA, SALMA, MIMI ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  36. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan ju
  37. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบ Weclome to wonder spa (9421Jane st unit127).๐Ÿ˜on Saturday ๐Ÿ’„new young girl Tiffany is Sweet and friendy girl good and deep tissue massage,very popular ๐Ÿท nice Amy vatename girl service queen,long hair.very sensual Touch she know what do you want,,make you feel so wonderful,nerver forgo
  38. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Saturday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & MIA. CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. MIA is a young 27 JAPANESE girl, curvy, good massage bbj cim, nice and open minded.
  39. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] 4 Girls Today at Alice Spa: ELLA (12pm-8pm): is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. JULIA (12pm-9pm) from Philippines, young busty
  40. ASPA:
    SATURDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny, Rachel & Tracy. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, New Girl Lina & Tray, Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Lisa is a young, slim, friendly & very beautiful Vietnamese beauty with a nice body, nice 34D boobs, slim waist
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty nice natural 34C Cups.
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAMY & NANA. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  44. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Noor & New YOUNG t Asian Girl Angela are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  45. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Great BBBJ, CIM, GFE in Her menu Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girlโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu. โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  46. See You Health Center:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples Elena Very young Vietnamese sweetheart girl has plump lips, flawless glory skin, โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  47. Annie Spa:
    Our sexy new superstar Michelle is working today Saturday November 16th with gorgeous young girls Tina and Coco๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜ Michelle only works on Saturdays and her schedule gets booked up very quickly so book your appointments well in advanceโ€ฆitโ€™s always a very special and busy day at Annie Spa on Saturdays when Michelle is working ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜โค๏ธ๐Ÿฅฐ100% real Michelle pictures๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ Call Annie Spa and ask for May to book appointments ๐Ÿ’ฏโค๏ธ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป 1001 Sandhurst Circle Unit #7 Finch and McCowan Area 437-818-8
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Yoyo 30โ€™s with 36DD open mind and young slime Sophia 30โ€™s, pretty GFE Lina and sweet Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Noor & New Hot๐Ÿ”ฅ Girl Angela are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Suki ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
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