Confused! What would you do?

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I have a decision to make and it's driving me up the wall...must decide between two places Situation #1- Cute, cozy little day spa in old house in central downtown location with very cool owner who really needs my help in moving her business. She has retail shop, and offers facials, massage, and nails. I've worked for her as an on call 50/50 split for a few months. However, she doesn't have a lot of clients right now, she is still building and there is a lot of competition in town . She has asked me to come and work for her for ย 250-300 a week even if there are no clients. (help with marketing, etc) i really like her, i just dont know how long this will last being that there are so many places around!OR Take an offer in already established hair salon/turned spa (in a part of the city with LESS spa )offering a 40-50% split, paying for some CEU's, (aveda products) i'd do my own marketing and only get paid per client.i'd be the only therapist..but the owner expects me to sign a noncompete. understandable, but i'm a bit weary of signing these since this business is always changing, it can bottom out at any time....But i feel that when you have a product line such as aveda this can help bring in your clients...anyone have any advice??
 
Confused! What would you do?

IMO DO NOT go with the non-compete clause as you may be signing away your livelihood should anything unforeseen happen.As for the #1, there seems to be a lot more flexibility and could offer a number of benefits, especially you can go into some kind of business arragement/agreement where you're able to bring in more MTs in order to make it feel more 'spa-ish'. Good luck.
 
As I read your post, I initally had some hesitations re: situation #1... but as Gaspen noted, I also want to add my two-cents by suggesting you stay away from the biz asking you to sign a non-compete. ย I will say I understand why they want you to sign one, but at the same time, does it stipulate how LONG the "clause" will be in effect? ย My husband used to work in radio and TV, and his contracts almost always included a non-compete clause - it's pretty standard for that industry. ย But once, when he left a position before his contract had expired, they tried to hold him to the non-compete...even though he was moving almost 200 miles away and would be no where NEAR the station's area. ย I.e., there was no chance he'd be working for a "competitor." ย Fortunately, he was able to get out of it...but you might not be so lucky should you choose to leave that job to go somewhere else. ย Again, just something to think about.I'll add one last bit of advice: If you do go on board with the business in your first scenario, make sure you sit down with the woman who's "hiring" you and be sure you're both on the same page when it comes to the marketing work you'll be helping with. ย I can tell you from experience (I'm going through it right now, in fact!!) that trying to do two jobs can cause a real strain on you...and on your business relationship with your employer. ย I am working as an LMT AND as the PR/Marketing Director for a local chiropractic office. ย It's only been two months, but I'm already starting to think I may have to cut the PR/MKT. ย I thought it would be a good chance for me to keep up my skills and proficiency in this area (in my "previous life," before becoming an LMT, I worked in Marketing and did writing, editing, and graphic design)...but it's simply become more of a burden than anything else.So if you DO agree to help with marketing, make sure your job responsibilities (and hours) are CLEARY set.Good luck! ย  :D
 
I agree option number 1 sounds better. Although I would want to know how it would work when you saw clients. ย Would you keep the money or do a split. ย It also sounds like you have room for advance ment there as well.
 
Confused! What would you do?

Just your description of #1 sounds like you know you might like it better.
Cute, cozy little day spa in old house in central downtown location with very cool owner who really needs my help in moving her business.
I agree with what everyone else has to say about the non-compete clause. ย You never know where you will be in the future.I also agree with CBezuskoLMT about doing both jobs. ย I have also done this before and it was difficult to balance both jobs. ย I did enjoy the variety though, much like I get now being self-employed. ย It is all about what you can handle. ย But I would definetly discuss things with the owner first. ย 
 
Confused! What would you do?

I would say go with the one your heart is telling you to go with. I think you already know which you will be happy with in the long run :}
 
I think the cut cozy spa is a good choice with Breathe's compensation agreement. ย This is good for the spa owner because there is incentive for you to build your business. ย If you are getting $300 a week whether you have clients or not, what is your incentive to work hard? ย You both win with Breathe's suggested formula.I agree with everyone else......stay away from the non-compete.
 
Confused! What would you do?

I too would vote for sit. #1Another option to throw out there... some form of partnerhip or profit sharing?Just a thought.Kirsten
 
ย As stated before, some states non-competes are illegal. ย Contact a lawyer before signing. ย For example, in Oregon they are enforced, yet in California they can't be enforced legally. ย  ย My sister worked for an Aveda spa and the only problem was they expected her to only use Aveda products and she also had to promote and sell Aveda. ย Working both places part time can be interesting. ย I did that at two different places and within 8 months had the clientele to open my own business, which is thriving now. ย Make sure to ALWAYS have a contract so there will be no confusions later as you can imagine could happen by reading other posts on this site.
 
Confused! What would you do?

Some non-competes really aren't that bad. Just make sure you read it carefully and if the request isn't too bad, go ahead and sign. I just signed one for a chair massage company, it basically just says that if I do a chair gig for them, I cannot do a chair gig with that company for a year if it doesn't go through the chair massage company. That's not too much to ask, IMO. I wouldn't sign one that says I cannot work within a 100 mile radius of the building or anything, that's just rediculous, but depending on the request, it may not be so bad.
 
Confused! What would you do?

Just remember that you are in the drivers seat. you get to choose where you'll be happiest. If you make a decision that you regret, you can change it! Go with your heart, but enter with good business sense. One BIG lesson that I have learned is to plan for the end when you enter into an agreement. Both parties know exactly how/what/etc you can both move on.Good luck!Jill/Sagetherapist
 
Thanks so much for all of your help..I know this site has been a help because many of you have been in this same situation. We all know that in some places the spa industry can be difficult. I have been in practice with some hell on earth people that were masked as angels. This is why I am so cautious about where i go. I've thought about working in both locations since they are on two opposite ends of town, but the woman asking me to sign the non compete feels that it is a conflict of interest for me to be employed at any other spa while working there. She has been open for a few years as a hair salon, but now that she is offering massage I'd have to get busy marketing to bring in clients for massage. The non compete is not that bad- (cant work for aveda for 1 yr afterward, take clients or talk w/ employyees afterward) its just the fact that I cannot work anywhere else. (not good when its slooow and I have bills to pay:) Also, my best friend (who is very new to the industry) is doing facials there and is kinda upset that I dont like the stipulations included, but we all have to do what is best.AS for the other place- this is where my heart is because it is a unique place. The owner has made it very comfortable- its 2 treatment rooms, a shop full of ย fun gifts, and even a quiet little terrace for clients to sit in a swing and drink tea. She is starting to get a lot of clients thru spa finder- (highly reccomended for your business). There is a lot of potential for this place and for the other but I just like this atmosphere a so much better, its very peaceful and clients love it.
 
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    Sexy Korean Massage Girl Summer is working at Sparkling Spa with Service Queen Zoe today. Real pictures of Summer & Zoe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏCall or text to book appointment ๐Ÿ“ฒ โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY
  36. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธYoyo๐ŸŒธCarly๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  37. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Rose๐ŸŒน - A sexy new addition to our lin
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Doris ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, ASHA, MALIYA, SANA, ANGELINA, MEERA, NISHA, AMANDA, MIMI, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธKimCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  42. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  43. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girlโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  44. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 32 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa, : LALA,[/color 19Yrs young & beautiful petite, pretty, baby faced Japanese, 5โ€™2โ€ 90Lbs B Cup, bbbj, rim. Lala is energetic, fresh, beautiful & innocent, makes your heart beat. Beauty and youth can conquer everything. Highly recommended ๐Ÿ‘ SUKI, baby face student, nice all natural C Cups, short 5โ€™2โ€, sexy ass,
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Yuki 30โ€™s open mind slime and young fun Selina with curves body 30โ€™s , pretty GFE Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the official schedule for AMORE SPA: (Korean Ashley hasn't been here for AGES. The old confused imposter doesn't realize he has lost another customer, and continues to post errors and incorrect pics). Monday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY(10AM-11pm) & *New Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian
  47. Mephistopheles:
    Where is milf mimi working, a little crazy lady.
  48. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  50. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Lisa & Ruby. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Lisa is a young, slim & very beautiful Vietnamese beauty with a nice body, nice boobs, nice massage, incredible services.
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