Development update opposite Carrefour

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I drove by that area thats is currently under land clearing and development opposite Carrefour this morning..I actually spoke briefly with the developer..who kindly showed me the blueprints...so this whole area is basically going to be endless rows of small souvenir shops and food shops...about 90% at this time are accounted for, leaving only a few available....there will be a few bars acattered around and in his words the place will be similar to that Otop plaza....I asked him where Lotus fit in and he said that Lotus is NOT coming because of some agreement that Carrefour has in their lease re' competition...but he did say there may be plans for a "satellite" type (smaller size) Lotus shop being built further down that middle road, a few lots over going towards kata/karon.
 
Great./.. More shophouses, internet massageplanetes, and massage shops.. Presumably without any thought for parking as ever inch will be 'owned'..

Deep joy.
 
I just had my parents out visiting and they were shocked that no thought whatsoever goes into parking and there is no civil engineer that has to approve plans that will allow for parking, handicapped people etc.
 
I would be very surprised as to how any business could obtain sole trading rights here in Thailand, particularly over land it doesnt even own...
 
Lets not also forget that all of this is being built over already existing swamp land...do you think for one second that any thought has gone into the inevitable flooding that will occur during the rainy season and how to prevent it?...yeah right! (and they want to build a tunnel here as well)....I am also amazed at how many of the same old shops..(as mentioned above)..keep going into these new shopping arcades and how they even survive..It's beyond me!...it almost seems like there must be one massage shop, t-shirt shop,etc and so on..for every person living here....do people really think they are going to make money with these endeavors?
 
I'm sure there was some monetary exchange that took place for that to happen
 
Road access in Patong is already problematic at peak hours, Patong cant really handle much more traffic and shouldnt get any more big hotels/resorts/shopping centers IMHO.

Driving in peak hours is terrible, recently took me almost an hour to drop off some friends in Patong and back to Kathu. (Should be 20 minutes)

If Patong want to grow, they should improve road infrastructure first.
 
I agree with you 100% however I feel that would be an immense undertaking...You would almost have to rip everything up and start from scratch...The unfortunate thing is that years ago when they first built everything, they not only didn't have the proper technology to do it all right from the beginning, but typically, nobody had the foresight to see the potential growth here and what you would need to do to build and improve along the way as things in general improved around you...
 
The mini tesco is opening across the road from the marked in nanai road
 
that's why it's 3rd world
i am sure it is not any different in similar countries
 
The land is too valuable to waste it on a parking lot.

I've always thought that if some one built a multi-storey parking lot, they would make a fortune.
 
Thought that myself, but when you see that a building here is pretty much a mulilevel carpark frame flimsily filled in, and what they can get in rental return out of a flat or shop, its much less profitable.
We would have done the same in our countries, in fact did, until governments mandated parking in order to approve developments. Since there is no real approvals here it aint gonna happen, and I predict that Patong will eventually choke on itself and values plummet as happened to the likes of Acapulco..
 
Very well put!...I have very similar thoughts re' your prediction. There must be a hundred different things that this town could do with that land opposite Carrefour...whether it be some parking, or whatever....but why more of the same old shops?
 
>>.but why more of the same old shops?

Simple economics.......cash.

I too thought quite a few years ago about a car park. I'm sure that Kata Karon tuk tuks would have something to say about this as allowing people to drive and park would be taking fares away from them somehow.
 
When they built a new O Top down near the Beach Bar area and Luv U Long Time started Indian bar, I went down to have a beer there with him.
There was ample free parking and a sign saying so and I thought , 'Eureka!'...that if anything was gonna make that place work then it was its accessibility to drivers. The security checked where I was going and nodded that it was 'in house'.
The next time I went , security ambled over and I thought it'd be the same, but he said, "park here 40 baht".
I proffered 1,000 baht as I always do and he complained , " Mai me plian!" ( not have change, as if that was my fault) so I just shrugged and walked off.
The next time they were even charging scooters 20 baht ( while the 'free parking' sign was still up) and the roadside (free) was packed while the carpark near empty.
If the security were ordered to charge a fee, that was stupid, if they were freelancing that may be why I didnt see a ticket book amongst them
.
The next visit, maybe 5 months after opening, I had to drive on. The carpark was now a market , selling pretty much the same stuff as the shops and I had to think how pissed off you'd be renting a shop, only to have a tent at your door, selling the same stuff at half the rent.
No parking, paid or otherwise, in sight...
....and that pretty much sums up the de-evolution of parking facilities in Patong....
 
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    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธBree Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  41. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  42. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Ella is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slim,Joey is very good looking,big breasted service queen,Amy is long hair provide a very good massage with...
  43. Fullssss:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๐Ÿˆต
  44. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mia & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj like a queen, and is open to dfk and cfs. Sasa is slim
  46. HolidaySpa:
    3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ LINA, YOYO & CINDY. [/color] Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. YOYO is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups and a very sexy figure. She provides the best versatile PSE services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a nice smile
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  48. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Phoenix , Nayla & Sasa are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Tina 30โ€™s with curve body open mind and young slime Summer 30โ€™s, pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Nana, Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
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