Difference between MASSAGE and ESCORTS forums ?!?

[Persephone]

I've asked this before. There seems to be a lot (most, in fact) of reviews on this forum that IMHO should be in the ESCORTS section.

Isn't this forum about massages and R&Ts ?

If people simply place their reviews willy nilly in either Massage or Escorts, why do we even bother having two forums at all ?

Please enlighten me.

 

[CoRaZon]

Because many of the place where guys go for FS are called "Massage" parlours. Hence, they put the reviews in the Massage forum, when they probably belong in the Escort forum.

 

[Starry]

And most all of said places offer massages as part of the service which is why there is a separate forum. I never even look in the Escort Forum (or usually not) as I am always interested in having massages as part of my service. Whether or not FS is offered the point is that in all cases a massage should be part of the session.

And speaking of posts in the wrong session, this is NOT a review by you but a question so it should either be in 411 or the general forum....if you want to get picky about it.

 

[DarkMaster]

I prefer doing a review in the massage forum as you have to be a member to view it.

 

[g m]

Good reason.
I wonder how that arrangement came about.

 

[orioninkc]

McDiver has brought up the reason why I am posting my reviews in this section; need to be a member to get access.

 

[THEFUNGI]

and you don't have to be a member to see a review in the escorts section?
had no idea...

anyway, i've always found the 'escort' term to be misleading too, as to me, i always thought of an escort primarily to be someone you took out to show off and the sexual services provision was optional.

on the other hand, just about all the SPs qualify as Vancouver Massage kuz just about all of them advertise it.

i think prior to the rise of CL, the Straight was a key info source and its adult section is split into Massage and Escort.

 

[Leanne]

If you go to www.eforum.xxx.ca without logging on, you can't view the Vancouver massage or 411 sections.

 

[Kitty L]

ya, i tried it. don't understand why escort general vancouver review section is visible to anyone...

 

[Miki Takei]

I think that's called "girlfriend"

Anyone seen that old hotel/pub on Columbia St. in New Westminster, where there are two entrances on the side street, one marked "Gentlemen" and the other one marked "Ladies and Escorts" ? I guess the term "escorts" harks back to the old days when single, non-attached men had female "escorts" as companions to dinners and shows.



Interesting, that could be the answer right there.

 

[yunesa]

The "Escorts" actually refers to the men. The entrance was for the Ladies and their Escorts. Pubs and beer parlours in the early twentieth century had a separate area where men sat and another area where women sat. Men would be able to join the women in the women's zone if they were on a date or if they were married. Women were not allowed in the men's zone. This was to avoid prostitution and solicitation problems that drinking establishments had previous to these new rules.

In a way it was also a method of downplaying the enjoyable experience one would ordinarily have going to the pub, as the BC government's mandate at that time was to provide alcohol in licenced establishments but also not to encourage it, so that the rules were pretty much, "sit down, shut up and drink your beer." Standing and walking around with your beer, loud talking and singing were strictly prohibited.

Pubs were mandated to look dark, gloomy and boring and if they didn't they wouldn't get licenced. This was the after-effects of prohibition in the province, which was in effect from 1916 to 1925. During prohibition near-beer was served in pubs (beer having 0.5% alcohol), but hard alcohol and real beer was readily available through bootleggers. Prohibition caused more problems than it set out to fix. With prohibition being lifted pubs were licenced ONLY in established hotels, hence the hundreds of cheap hotels with pubs that still exists in the DTES and New West (alcohol was not served in BC restaurants until the early 1950s). Their sole purpose was to sell booze which was also served in the rooms, where the pub rules were certainly more relaxed and men and women were allowed to drink together. It's incredible how conservative and over-regulated this province was at one point and how, in many ways it still is, especially as it pertains to alcohol.

A final note of interest, Gordo Martin who owns Bin 941 and 942 once purchased an old Vancouver sign at a flea market that reads, "Beware of Pickpockets, Thieves and Loose Women." He still displays this sign at his eatery at 941 Davie Street.

Panther

 

[satine]

truer words have never been spoken. I can't belive I'm told when and where I can buy warm beer.

Thanks for the interesting story Pantherdash

 

[Sky Daddy Bingo]

The Straight came much later, actually. For years, the WestEnder and the Buy&Sell were the only places to advertise -- excepting the license-required Sun or Province. Westender was good for everything up to Surrey, Coquitlam, & beyond, and the Buy&Sell was good for all areas, since their distribution was & is so much higher. And, to this day, none of these require you to have a computer in front of you to find someone.

 

[Jessica G]

You're welcome. This is so typical of Canadian bureaucracy that still exists to this day.

BC wines are starting to be recognized as some of the finest that are available for purchase in BC. There is a strong demand for BC wines, but do you think the Liquor Distribution Board sells some of the finer, more expensive BC wines? No they don't. In order for the BC LDB to sell BC wines (and this rule pertains ONLY to BC wines ) the producer MUST have a minimum production quota. In other words they have to be MASS produced, like Mission Hill, Sawmill Creek and other garbage (although Mission Hill isn't too bad). They have a BIG opportunity to promote their own local products but they don't due to some STUPID regulation invented by some idiot pencil-pusher for some moronic reason. It's very much like the restaurants of BC prior to liquor being served in them in the 1950s. People just went south to Bellingham and Seattle to enjoy a nice dinner with a bottle of wine.

And we still see it today with the CRTC and Rogers. The i-Phone is set to be released in Canada in a few days. One of the controversies was the easy accessibility to the Internet at your fingertips with the i-Phone. No the Canadian government doesn't like that and Rogers wants to cash in on this side of the market. So they come up with an outrageous plan: 150 daytime minutes from 7am to 9pm unlimited evenings and weekends and something like 400MB of transfers a month Internet, which you will most likely use the first week, if not the first day. All for $60 a month plus taxes and accessibility charges. Oh and that's with a minimum 3 year contract. Meanwhile, CL has hundreds of cracked i-Phones from the US for like $400 to $500 a piece with no contract and no charge to access the Internet. I have a friend who has a cracked one and he pays Fido $40 a month city plan with almost unlimited daytime minutes and no charge Internet. You'd have to be a pretty big IDIOT to sign up with Rogers. So in the end, very few people will sign up with Rogers because they are pushed to take their business elsewhere that is NOT ripping them off, even if it means doing it illegally.

But the BC Government shows it true colours when it comes to alcohol. If you're interested in the above history of BC liquor and pubs pick up at the VPL, "Demon Rum or Easy Money: Government Control of Liquor in British Columbia from Prohibition to Privatization" Carleton University Press, 1991 by Robert A. Campbell. Great read.

Panther

 

[Soraya ( =]

Hmmm, that shows how much I don't know ! Thanks, PD. eforum.xxx is such an educational environment