Doing a split?

[blahh 90210 is on]

I looked back at the How much $$$ topic I started and now I have some more questions.I have an interview Wednesday for a hair salon.  From what I understand, they want to do a 60/40 split.  After reading the topic again, it seems low, considering all they provide is the room.  I was reading my business book, and it said many salons are in trouble now because they take people on as independant contractors to avoid dealing with them as employees.Sigh...what do you guys think?  If I am offered 60/40 like my hairsylist friend said I would, how do I talk them up?  ANY suggestions would be great.  Thanks.

 

[Anna :)]

Hi I do some work at a small salon here in Memphis.We do a 60/40 split they provide every thing linnens, table, music, scheduling,I show up massage and change the linnens. Any other way I dont think its worth the pay. Also they advertise thats expensive find out how much they promote massage.       Dont sell your self short !!! If they wont do it the way you think its best some one else will!!!! good luck           Tranquil Touch Jessica

 

[fljoe]

Doing a split?

Lay it out for them. Tell them what you expect. Give them different options (ie, either raise the rate or cover the cost of a laundry service). Massage is a popular thing right now and if you stick to your guns on what you want, you WILL find it. Make sure you make the interview work for you. It is as much for you to find a good fit as it is for them. Some things to ask....is there a contract, is there a no-compete clause, can you take your clients with you if/when you leave, any hope for an increase, do you get tips or do you split them, etc.Personal story--I was at a spa where I was getting 50/50 (60% if the client rebooked), doing my own laundry, had to help with the phone (a lot). I sat down and figured out how much time I was putting into it versus the amount of money I was getting out of it and I realized I was making about $10 an hour. I decided I was no longer going to work that hard and only get that much. Yes, I did learn a lot and gained a lot of regular customers. I now have my own office. So the moral, it was a win/win and lose/lose situation depending on how you look at it. Chances are, you won't want to stay somewhere if they only offer 60/40 but it might be a place to get a start. And maybe you could tell them that...."if you pay me 60/40, I will sign on now but I want to take my client list with me when I leave." Hope that helps.Sadie

 

[yet-knish!]

Jessica and SadieDawn, Thanks for the quick replies.  Boy I'm getting discouraged with MT's around here not getting the pay they deserve.From what I undersatnd this is a 60/40 split and all they provide is the room.  They will help you advertise if you ask.  Oh, they also do scheduling.Sadie, what is a no-compete clause?I was planning on taking my own contract in there to at the very least show them how it's supposed to be done.  I've been hitting my business mastery book like I said, and you guys are reaffirming what I have read.  Thanks again!

 

[Baki]

Doing a split?

My contract had a no-compete clause. I couldn't work anywhere else while I was working at the spa. It was fine with me but sometimes people will extend the no-compete clause beyond the time you spend with them....ie sometimes they will say you can't have any part in a massage business within 30 miles for one year after you leave. That can cause problems.

 

[Hatikvah JPA]

Oh my gosh that would be terrible.  Thanks for the heads up!

 

[Come to chat!]

Hi there Ive ben busy Just womderin how the job hunt is going??? Have you checked into bed & breakfeasts.I also work at Bonne Terre Country Inn. They offer my services as a bonus to the guests and only take  $10 off each massage. They charge $80 I get $70 it is a lot of fun. Most of the couples get massage at the same time I have a friend that goes with me,we set up at the   same time they love it!!! Let us know how its goin                                Jessica Tranquil Touch

 

[Margey x]

Hi Jessica,I spoke with the owners and they do provide laundry, etc.  I decided to take the job. It's a good start.  I take my boards April 2 and I'm studying for that too.I never even thought of a B&B, what a great idea!I'm going to be a guest speaker at a women's lifestyle fair in my area April 5.  Boy am I nervous!How are you otherwise?

 

[Binst is happy]

congrads!!!!  I am doing good . Iam trying to build  up my client base( I am about 2 yr out of school). It sure takes some time and a whole lot of energy. In the long run all my time and effort will pay off ( I HOPE) . My goal is to open a day spa here in Memphis.

 

[Pamela D(midget12_]

I'd love to open a day spa that would use natural resources as opposed to ready made products- nothing wrong with them, I just like the idea of raw materials better.I'm just getting started, so I'm trying cost effective ways to build clients.  Lucky for me the job I took is on a really busy street with big windows that the bosses say I can put anything up in promotion wise.

 

[BossResurfacing]

Doing a split?

heres a quick idea Insted of cutting your price for a promo. how bout "Book your appointment today and get 10 extra min added to your massage". Give away a little time insted of your money!!!

 

[Hannnnnnahhh?]

Doing a split?

Traquil, I love your idea of adding a few extra minutes instead of subtracting from the cost. THANK YOU! I may have to use that myself!

 

[mansaf]

Hey that's a good idea!  I'm probably going to get a chair as well and give mini freebies on that.