Fallen arches

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Hi there,
Does anyone have experience working with fallen arches? Advice on treatments, stretches, exercises?

Thank you!
 
Fallen arches

frenchwoman said:
Hi there,
Does anyone have experience working with fallen arches? Advice on treatments, stretches, exercises?

Thank you!

My arches are dropping.. not sure if that is the same as when they are considered fallen.
Personally, my arches ache all the time, and I just like a lot of attention there. Not a LOT of pressure, but I like to feel like you actually worked on them, not just lubed them up with oil or creme.
 


for exercises:

picking up tissues or marbles with the toes

also a lady in my class was a yoga instructor. she told us this one:

stand with feet parallel, knees slightly flexed, pelvis in neutral, scapula down, shoulders relaxed, ears over acromium process.... lift toes (ONLY) off the floor while maintaining neutral position of body.
 


Forrest Yoga, which I teach, is really good for the arches, feet, and legs in general. Ana Forrest has some videos out there you can get. Basically the feet are kept "active" throughout every pose, which means that the toes are spread and lifted off the ground (if the feet are on the ground) and if the feet are not on the ground in certain poses, the ball of the foot is pressed forward while the toes are extended and spread. This essentially "turns on" the foot so that all the muscles are alive and awake and working.

At first the feet can easily cramp doing this because the muscles of the feet are weak and not used to it. Just keep at it, resting until the cramp goes away and then assuming "active feet" again. This is pretty much what ccMarie described, except you hold this foot position throughout the entire yoga practice. If you don't do yoga, you can hold this position of your feet for a certain amount of time every day, like while doing the dishes, or while getting ready in the morning, or just for an hour whenever you can. I find it can help to hold this foot position if I am giving a massage and my back starts to hurt. I'll lift my toes and that seems to turn on my legs to give me more support to hold my pelvis properly.

Another foot excercise similar to picking up tissues or marbles with the toes is to find some sand (beach, backyard, park) and dig a hole in the sand with your toes. Or, put a towel under your foot so that it is layed out a bit in front of your foot and slowly gather the towel in using your toes. That's kind of like digging.

No doubt massage in general will help because as the muscles start to build up there will surely be soreness, but other than that I'm not familiar with specific techniques to help.
 


How is the spine of this pair of feet's owner? Is there a history of back problems, or a history of his/her support system falling away? How is the relationship with this client's loved ones and family? Fallen arches are very common amongst those who feel they have lost the support of a parent, spouse or very close friend. It is a heavy feeling of loneliness and sometimes despair and pulls those arches right down.

A good visual guide would be for the client to stand against a wall (so as not to fall over!), close his/her eyes and to find his/her arches with the mind. Imagine that the arch is like a bridge and this particular bridges needs some extra support - like pillows or soft cushions to begin with. Bring in the cushions
 


Okay, here is my foot reading take on this topic. FWIW.

How is the spine of this pair of feet's owner? Is there a history of back problems, or a history of his/her support system falling away? How is the relationship with this client's loved ones and family? Fallen arches are very common amongst those who feel they have lost the support of a parent, spouse or very close friend. It is a heavy feeling of loneliness and sometimes despair and pulls those arches right down.
 


Here is my take on fallen arches, from a myofascial release perspective. If you take a look at your pelvis, you may find an increased amount of anterior rotation of the pelvis. This can occur unilaterally or bilaterally. Whichever side is tips forward the most tends to have a greater degree of pes planus, or fallen arch. If the degree of forward rotation of the pelvis is equal on both sides, there tends to be a near equal amount of falling. As the pelvis tips forward, the acetabulum rotates, causing a relative motion of the femur due to the muscular and fascial orientation. This in turn will rotate the fumu and lower leg internally, rotating the tarsal bones in a similar manner, and ending with a splaying out of the foot with flatter arches. From a p[reventative or early treatment perspective, balancing the pelvis is crucial, not to mention all of the other problems that can be stopped or slowed as a result. Orthotics can help, but they only support the feet in their new found state of flatness, pushing them up to where they once were. This can be enough for many, but working on the forces that slowly brought about the changes can also help, even in more advanced cases.

Treating the foot can be very helpful as well. Compressive releases to the foot and forefoot can decrease the pain associated with the foot being in a place where is was not in the past, in a sense accomodating to the new posture. Releasing up into the lower leg can help as well. I've found that no matter how progressed the fallen arches have become, balancing the pelvis, working to bring the legs/legs back into a more neutral alignment, and working the lower leg and foot can usually bring back better overall alignment and comfort.
 


Holy COW. (moo) Thank you so much, y'all. :smt041

Unfortunately this person is a coworker, and not a client. She doesn't seem too interested in being one, either. So I'm trying to come up with things that I can tell her to do for herself, as she seems more open to that.

Dragonflies, she has a history of upper cervical problems, and I believe has a spur on.. C4? Anyhow, as for her familial relationships, I think they're about in line with the normal changes in life- parents old/dying, teenaged children being, well, teenagery. In other words, nothing in her personal life that she really has any control over (except of course her own reactions) that I'm aware of. But she comes across as, shall we say, a little "less" than laid back, so I bet you're on to something.

Moose_goose, I'm going to keep that in mind, definitely, for the next time I come across someone complaining of foot/ arch problems. And WaltFritz, that was awesome information! Makes me a little more interested in MFR, too. I also think I can develop some self-help ideas from your post.

Thank you, CCmarie and ShivaShiva for the exercises!
 
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    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, NISHA, NINA, AMANDA, MEERA, ANGELINA, PAYAL PEARL, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  37. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWeclome to wonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)Rmt available on Wednesday,nice sexy big boots Joey ,new young girl Tiffany,very friendly very good looking Lucy on the duty, they all can provide excellent massage and nice touch ,body slide, make you really comfortable,must come to tryโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800 ๐Ÿท๐Ÿท
  38. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  39. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  40. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  41. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  44. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Wednesday at AMORE SPA: [/color ANGELA & CHERRY. ANGELA (*New Today) CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. AMORE SPA is a well established holistic spa
  45. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  46. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  47. See You Health Center:
    Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natural D cup Boobs Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Yuki slime 30โ€™s open mind and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, cute GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Nayla & Vivian are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
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