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today, I had a client come in for abdominal massage related to long-term issues with digestion, amennorhea and generalized ab pain. She wanted to see if ab massage, and particularly psoas and triggerpoint work would help her with constant cramping. She is a long-term client, so I know her quite well, she comes in normally for massage to deal with neck pain and headaches, so this is only the second time we've done any work at all on the abs.

Well, within 2 seconds of putting my hands on her tummy, I could tell there was something not quite right. I could feel on her descending colon what feels like a whole bunch of bbs. (beebees. However you spell that,) spanning about a 2" area. I start to feel them when pressing in about 1/4". They roll around under the fingers just like a bb too. Very odd, I've never felt anything like it. One of them in particular, the first one I felt, had a sharp point. The client feels no particular discomfort at that depth/location.

I have NO idea what it could be, but I told her to go to her doc ASAP if for no other reason than to get the A-OKAY. I think I may have scared her a little, but she says she has been procrastinating with her check ups. They think she may have endo. I'm wondering if endo could possibly deposit as hard little lumps on the outside of the colon? Or any other thoughts?
 


Have you thought of colonic polyps????

Tim
 
finding lumps...

BreatheBodywork said:
I have NO idea what it could be, but I told her to go to her doc ASAP if for no other reason than to get the A-OKAY. I think I may have scared her a little, but she says she has been procrastinating with her check ups. They think she may have endo. I'm wondering if endo could possibly deposit as hard little lumps on the outside of the colon? Or any other thoughts?

I have been in similar situations. Sometimes I want to take them to the Dr right then so I can find out what is going on. In a selfish way I just want to know what I am feeling.

As far as endo, I have heard of cases where it has attached to lots of different parts/organs (livers even) in the abdomen. But having never palpated it in an educational setting where someone says, "feel this, it's endo" I can't even tell you what it might feel like.
 


i've had a similar situation where a dr flat out told me there was no way i could feel that - :roll:

that being said, having suffered from it - i think it's too pliiable to feel sharp points on it.

am VERY interested to hear how this goes.

VERY interested.

amanda
 


Oh yeah, an additional piece of information: everything else feels normal. I ONLY feel the bbs in that small area. Other than some triggerpoints in R Psoas and the lower attachments of the R obliques, all is very healthy tissue.

Here's hoping she gets in to the doc today.
 


Not meaning to be fascetious here, but, doesn't something like this sometimes make you wish you could just "unzip" the skin and poke around inside to figure out just what in the world is going on? What a puzzlement this is.....

Have had similar experiences with fibroid cysts, etc but not the descending colon .... the suggestion about colonic cysts makes some sense....

Let us know if your client finds out what's going on......

Blessings....

J
 


AnastasiaB said:
make you wish you could just "unzip" the skin and poke around inside to figure out just what in the world is going on? What a puzzlement this is.....

J

THAT is the best part of my "day job". I truly love it and will miss it come the Fall.
Most probably little fat cells. they squish, roll, and can form odd shapes.
Just for demonstration purposes only......whenever there is an incision the fatty cells just about fall out. You can roll them around between your fingers(they are out of the body..attached to parts of other tissue).
Ex: breast biopsy/breast aug. There is copious amounts of loose adipose.
I do have little lipomas (1 or 2) along my left side. I can palpate them and wiggle them...harmless.
Best and only thing you can do is point them out to your client like was done.
Good job.
Robyn
 
finding lumps...

BreatheBodywork said:
I could feel on her descending colon what feels like a whole bunch of bbs. (beebees. However you spell that,) spanning about a 2" area. I start to feel them when pressing in about 1/4". They roll around under the fingers just like a bb too. Very odd, I've never felt anything like it. One of them in particular, the first one I felt, had a sharp point. The client feels no particular discomfort at that depth/location.

Could this be folding of the fascia on the surface of the abdominals or the colon? Or perhaps fat tissues that have expanded some what? This seems too shallow to be endo or polyps. Just a thought........
 


Could be any of those things... but the little lumps were very hard. We'll see. She was going into the doctor, so I may have some more info this week.
 


Someone just PM'd and asked me about this. Her original diagnosis (before we found the "bb's",) was interstitial cystitis. I made the observation that it felt like the lumps were on her small and/or large intestine. She started looking for other conditions with similar symptoms to IC. A week later she asked her doctor for a test for Celiac's disease, which it turned out to be positive. Within less than two weeks of starting a gluten free diet, the lumps had diminished to the point that I could barely detect them.

So that's that. :)
 


Wow, Celiac! I never would have thought of that!

I think it is far more common than anyone realize - especially doctors.
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  37. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the only official schedule for AMORE SPA: Tuesday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY(10AM-11pm) & Tiny Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. Tiny LALA is unbelievably good
  38. ASPA:
    TUESDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Best Massage Rachel, & Wendy ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4โ€ tall with nice responsive 34Cโ€™s and a captivating smooth rounded bottom. She is popular for her excellent massage skills and a little extra.
  39. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy with big buttocks 30โ€™s open mind and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, cute GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North Yo
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: CICI, CINDY & JENNY. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, MIMI & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range
  43. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5โ€™2โ€tall . 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  44. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Great BBBJ, CIM, GFE in Her menu Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  45. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธKandy๐ŸŒธJazmin Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  46. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธCamilaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  48. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: For Tuesday November 12, 2024, our attendants will be Ada โค๏ธ, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Yoyo ๐Ÿคฉ, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜ and Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ Call us at 905-479-6668 to book your favourite!
  49. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo has joined Angela & Noor for the evening ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  50. Newspring@:
    Nu spring spa โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot Latino ๐ŸŒธSingapore ๐ŸŒธKorean girls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ7-15 Karachi dr Markham
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