I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

Rana

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I must get at least one call a day from the latest parasite-who-can't-do-math in the world of discount deal sites.

A) learn something about my business before you call. If you had any idea the variable cost of a spa treatment was 40-50%, you can only be a parasite if you are asking me to discount services an average of 50% AND you expect to take 50% of what's left. A symbiotic relationship helps both parties -- just ask those little birds on the back of a rhino. A parasite devours its host, which is what will happen when your advertising provider makes $25 and you LOSE $25 on every sale.

B) stop promising things you have no way of delivering. Repeat clients -- they all promise it, but they have no proof they ever deliver any. Clients who came to y ou through a deal site are just going to wait for the next deal on that site or your next deal on another site.

C) Stop touting how many new customers I will get if you business model necessitates me losing money on every new customer's first visit. This is not a grocery store which can give away a 2nd head of lettuce as part of your $300 weekly purchase. Loss-leaders only lead to bankruptcy in low volume, low frequency industries. The last thing I want when I am losing money on every client is more clients. Please learn to do math, or at least understand the basics of business before calling me with your idiotic idea to grow my business a tombstone.

D) Your clients are not high-value clients. They are the biggest complainers -- just read YELP or TripAdivsor -- those who scream the loudest paid the least.

E) Put your money where your mouth - and business model -- is. If you think your brilliant me-too discounting deal site will deliver repeat business, I will give you $0 on first time visits and 100% of 100% of repeat clients for the next 90 days.
 
I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

:iagree: I liked the vent!
 
I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

Nice. Best Groupon rant ever. Can I repost it with a link back here?
 
I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

R & R,

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
 
I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

I met a great MT through a group coupon site.

Previously, when I searched for an MT using Google, her name never came up. I suppose that I could have searched via the AMTA website but most MTs on the AMTA don't seem to have websites -- at least not in this area -- and I always want more information about the therapist other than their hours and the modalities provided.

Had it not been for the discount site, I don't think that I would have ever known about this MT.

Also, I totally think that a great MT is worth their weight in gold but I was also looking for an MT that offered packages since I like to get massages on a regular basis despite a modest salary. :2cents:
 
I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

Offering packages/series of massages for a discount is not the same thing as offering a rock-bottom first-visit deal. Those DO. NOT. WORK. for the vast majority of us in this industry. We do offer packages/series, but only to clients AFTER they have established themselves to us as "good clients, whom we desire to keep and to reward with a discount to help them come more often". We have found *from experience* that offering first-time clients deep discounts and packages backfires more often than not. Nope-- no more of that.

R&R, I wholeheartedly agree with you. There's this guy in our area who keeps calling-- he runs/markets for a bartering group, and he continues to insist that this would be a great way to not only get new clients, but also to obtain products and services "we need in our business". Um, nope-- not happening. We do barter, but only after much discussion and mutual agreement on terms by both parties, only for things we TRULY NEED and would have spent money for anyway, and only with people we know personally. Oh, and we now also set a "limit" on how much barter business we'll do each month/given time span.

It's taken us a while, but we're finally learning. ;)
 
I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

I always tell these people... "Please remove me from your call list". :)
 
I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

pueppi said:
I always tell these people... "Please remove me from your call list". :)


I usually stop them before they say a word, and say "What discount do you expect?" and "What % of the revenue do you take?" and "if both of these answers are over 30%, we have nothing to talk about"

But every so often they just decide to tell me what they want to tell me, and I make sure to tell them what I want to tell them. I have found the word "parasite" really hits a raw nerve with them. Geez, you would think they were lawyers....
 
I am SO over these discount site sales people!!!

It sounds like you are getting a lot of these calls. In my practice, this one sentence has reduced the call load from solicitations to practically nil. It took a while, but I am down to maybe one every 2-3 weeks. I recognize that they are a sales call of some sort and spout out my sentence. :) If they keep talking, I say it again, and then hang up.
 
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  38. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong K
  39. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the only official schedule for AMORE SPA: Thursday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & <New Girl> CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. New girl. details later.
  40. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience.
  41. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage kasa ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  42. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Anika , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฅณ
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Jennifer & Tracy. Anida is a slim Asian babe with a small waist and great bum. Anita has excellent massage, oral and other skills. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true.
  44. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธEMILY, LUCY & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services.
  46. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธSelina Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 5 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30โ€™s open mind with big buttocks and young new pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body,Young sweet Vivian 22โ€™s, cute GFE Ella and sexy naughty Tina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LINDA, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LINDA is a beautiful young Asian mix girl, 60Kgs with big D Cup boobs with pointy nipples, very friendly, bbbj and many services. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything.
  49. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธLuLu๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธKarlaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  50. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Lin Very Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ5โ€™ 1โ€, 100 lbs Blonde Hairโ€จGreat BBJ, CIM Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
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