Chat I'm done with massage, give me action!

[UsefulIdiot]

I find the best actual massages come from middle aged, overweight Asian ladies with strong hands who I do not want to fuck. All else is frustrating. You pay for HH FS and what you get is 15 minutes of the MPA running the clock, a few minutes of tease, five to ten minutes of sex and then clean-up. What I actually like is 5 minutes of tease, then sex, then cleanup and if there is time left a massage. Massage is much better after sex anyways. Depending on my mood the sex might take 5 minutes or up to 20 minutes. Until now I have always wanted the MPA to be comfortable with me so at the beginning I agree on services and price and then let her lead. No more. From now I will take the lead. I did this on Friday and came away more satisfied than usual.

 

[BmH6769]

I find the best actual massages come from middle aged, overweight Asian ladies with strong hands who I do not want to fuck. All else is frustrating. You pay for HH FS and what you get is 15 minutes of the MPA running the clock, a few minutes of tease, five to ten minutes of sex and then clean-up. What I actually like is 5 minutes of tease, then sex, then cleanup and if there is time left a massage. Massage is much better after sex anyways. Depending on my mood the sex might take 5 minutes or up to 20 minutes. Until now I have always wanted the MPA to be comfortable with me so at the beginning I agree on services and price and then let her lead. No more. From now I will take the lead. I did this on Friday and came away more satisfied than usual.

Would you like to share who you spend time with?

 

[UsefulIdiot]

I am still processing the experience and will give a review tomorrow.

 

[coffeemate]

My most relaxing time was when we agreed on hh cbj and she decided to do the massage after the BJ. I was almost asleep by the end

 

[SJRich1973]

I find the best actual massages come from middle aged, overweight Asian ladies with strong hands who I do not want to fuck. All else is frustrating. You pay for HH FS and what you get is 15 minutes of the MPA running the clock, a few minutes of tease, five to ten minutes of sex and then clean-up. What I actually like is 5 minutes of tease, then sex, then cleanup and if there is time left a massage. Massage is much better after sex anyways. Depending on my mood the sex might take 5 minutes or up to 20 minutes. Until now I have always wanted the MPA to be comfortable with me so at the beginning I agree on services and price and then let her lead. No more. From now I will take the lead. I did this on Friday and came away more satisfied than usual.

Good to know that I am not the only one seeing such patterns from these MP's. It is annoying, waste of time and money. It seems to these MPs that when we visit spas all we wanted is extras. Incorrect and shallow assumptions. The most mood killer is when they full off a last 10 to 15 minutes of the session pitch: What do you want to do? How much will you pay? After several questions, back and forth discussions you are down with 8 to 10 minutes time left. WTH...After getting a lousy massage and this MP has the audacity to up sell. Total cock block!

Hobbyist....Be smart and spend money wisely. Truth is...You cannot put tag price on a great and exhilarating sexual encounter. At that moment, you know no matter what, it will not be able to match with any amount of money. So, when it happens, be generous (a little, he he he). Tip, don't bring loads of cash. You will tend to splurge when excited and on unexplainable passion

 

[UsefulIdiot]

Let’s start a revolution - negotiation, then sex, then massage. Who is with me?

 

[xtc27]

Let’s start a revolution - negotiation, then sex, then massage. Who is with me?

...u can do it now... no revolution required... going to totally NOT legit spa? Magic words: "Been here b4"... even if its lie... tell them what u want... while fully clothed... leaning on door jam... hopefully shoes still on...

...& if she renegs, get clothes back on & run, I do this, it works... obv not @ Flirt, but Asian spas...

 

[UsefulIdiot]

...u can do it now... no revolution required... going to totally NOT legit spa? Magic words: "Been here b4"... even if its lie... tell them what u want... while fully clothed... leaning on door jam... hopefully shoes still on...

...& if she renegs, get clothes back on & run, I do this, it works... obv not @ Flirt, but Asian spas...

I would like to change things - unlikely but worth a shot. One person does can only change things for himself. Let's raise standards. No more paying to have our time wasted.

 

[OG_funguy]

Seriously, if you guys value a nice massage, you should really try semi-legits...trust me, you will not leave anything on the table in terms of the extras either, but there's always the YMMV factor and it may take several visits for the MPA to be comfortable with you.

 

[UsefulIdiot]

Seriously, if you guys value a nice massage, you should really try semi-legits...trust me, you will not leave anything on the table in terms of the extras either, but there's always the YMMV factor and it make take several visits for the MPA to be comfortable with you.

I think you like the hunt and I like the kill.

 

[OG_funguy]

I think you like the hunt and I like the kill.

Yeah, I would agree with that. I'm guessing most guys don't want to bother with the "courting" process and just want to get down to business. Like you said, I'm more patient and like to find that special gem...I don't mind if they are low mileage at the beginning but I'll quickly filter out any greedy MPAs or ones that are not putting the effort to make the session memorable (I don't necessarily mean the extras either).

 

[xtc27]

I would like to change things - unlikely but worth a shot. One person does can only change things for himself. Let's raise standards. No more paying to have our time wasted.

Ok... no probs... @SJRich1973 can confirm, we been talking bout this technique 4 a bit...

...its relief 4 girls, 2... u= not LE trying 2 trap them, or nube doesn't no how it goes down...

Legit spa= location 4 msg
Semi-legit & semi-holistic spas= location 4 msg & fun stuffs....
Holistic: storefront for SPs...

...for 2nd two, this works, don't waste time...

Vive! Vive la revolution!

 

[BmH6769]

Here’s what I’ll do at fuck shops. I called ahead knowing that someone I’ve seen b4 or have not seen b4 is NOT available, shows up and ask for her, if the girls working saids that person is not available, then I’ll asked to see another girls, if no one is my liking, I’ll bounce. 9 times out of 10 it’ll work. Again, I know, not everyone has the same will power to say no, when em tities in your face.

 

[OG_funguy]

I have to agree. I'm one of those dudes who "court".
Holistic or Semi, doesnt matter. If I like her, then I'm on her train.. and some of the extra benefits that come down the pike, well,
it's just gold in this biz..

The "benefits" (at least for me) are worth it. For example, just this past weekend, the SO was going out for ladies night and I felt bored with nothing to do. Most of my buddies are married with children so outings are normally planned and it's not easy to just go out on the fly. I messaged one of my faves and even though she was working a full shift that day (and was tired) as well as the next morning, she agreed to come out for a few drinks and to watch some games on the big screen.

PS: seems like during these Covid days, they don't want people drinking from bottles so they actually poured the alcohol into those brown paper cups...for shots, they use little plastic cups (which can be seen on the right).

 

[Bigusdickus]

Seriously, if you guys value a nice massage, you should really try semi-legits...trust me, you will not leave anything on the table in terms of the extras either, but there's always the YMMV factor and it make take several visits for the MPA to be comfortable with you.

I couldn't agree more I have changed over to a legit place and get a good cbj or hand job but a full hour of brilliant massage that leaves every muscle drained all for 100 bucks total for an hour!! Not your flaccid back rub then negotiate a timed hand or blow job sceneries you get at most holistic spas. Of course YMMV and the masseuse will remain nameless as it has taken a while to establish trust between us.it's kinda fun as she tries to keep quite so nobody knows the wiser,
Having said that just back from seeing g one of my all time favorite at a holistic spa,think useful knows who I am taking about. Real gem.

 

[OG_funguy]

Here’s what I’ll do at fuck shops. I called ahead knowing that someone I’ve seen b4 or have not seen b4 is NOT available, shows up and ask for her, if the girls working saids that person is not available, then I’ll asked to see another girls, if no one is my liking, I’ll bounce. 9 times out of 10 it’ll work. Again, I know, not everyone has the same will power to say no, when em tities in your face.

Haha, I do that all the time at new places. You don't even have to be there before. Just find out the schedule from here or call the spa and ask who's working on XYZ day...once you have a name, you can do your strategy.

 

[Massxprt]

Yeah, I would agree with that. I'm guessing most guys don't want to bother with the "courting" process and just want to get down to business. Like you said, I'm more patient and like to find that special gem...I don't mind if they are low mileage at the beginning but I'll quickly filter out any greedy MPAs or ones that are not putting the effort to make the session memorable (I don't necessarily mean the extras either).

I'm in Kl's camp. Getting that special gem in the legit or semi-legit is a real rush versus the predictable seasoned pro. When I read about the DFK, BBBJ, CIM provider s that run an assembly line day in day out I want to puke.

 

[UsefulIdiot]

I'm in Kl's camp. Getting that special gem in the legit or semi-legit is a real rush versus the predictable seasoned pro. When I read about the DFK, BBBJ, CIM provider s that run an assembly line day in day out I want to puke.

I want it all - the sex, the sensuality and the personal connection. When I was new to the hobby the uncertainty of whether extras would be offered was a thrill, but not now.

 

[OG_funguy]

I want it all - the sex, the sensuality and the personal connection. When I was new to the hobby the uncertainty of whether extras would be offered was a thrill, but not now.

You can have the first two but it will be difficult to get the 3rd one without some sort of emotional investment on your side...

For me the uncertainty factor is still there but the scale has changed. Back in the day, I may have been anxious to find out if I would even get a HJ, now the excitement is whether they will do much more .

 

[c1000]

Totally understand what you are saying, but this is why I think guys like you should go see an SP.

I don't mind the massage, but there has to be a certain level of effort.