Insurance billing

[Kuwaiti_Jutt]

I took an insurance billing class, which went well. The I found out I would be more or less chasing my own tail to get them to pay up in Virginia. I thought thats the route I wanted to take, but I have leaned more towards spa services. GOod luck :}

 

[MOMIN]

Insurance billing

Insurance billing scares the poopoo out of me.

 

[Tom N]

Insurance billing

Reflexology is not covered by any insurance. Hopefully when the new ABC codes get passed I'll be able to jump on the bandwagon!

 

[Sunitha T]

Insurance billing

I do mva ,pip ,third party, maj. med,L&II couldn't vote cause there was no choice for what I do Sorry

 

[Ryu]

Insurance billing

I bill insurance and have found it to be rather lucrative when you do it right.A separate board might be useful in that there are a lot of topics that are not about marketing.Things likeCPT/ ICD 9 CodingHow insurance worksWhich companies pay and don't payWhat do do when they dont payDocumentation and SOAP charting... so that they payHCFA 1500 forms and other formsAssessmentsRelationships with Docs and lawyerscourt cases from accidentssoftware for insurancelaw suits from MTs towared insurance companiesUsual and customary chargeMedical massage training so that you are properly skilled to address medical conditionsstate laws, regulations, bills about MT and insurance companiesand so on.....

 

[veraks]

Insurance billing

Insurance curmudgeon here. I think insurance is one of the larger scams perpetuated on the public in the US. I wish I could live without it all together (I know some people who do, but they seem to be pretty much relegated to the fringe). I will NEVER do anything that is not required by law to feed a system that makes huge profits for its execs, the politicians who support them and their lobbyists while creating havoc on the medical structure of this country and crying poor as they do it!End of rant....

 

[Beeker]

I have to agree but I just don't make enought to go with out!!  Anyway, I am also wondering about insurance.  Could we get a few more opinions???  Does it really boost buisness, and how does it pay, and how do you get started?  Would love some advice I am in Lower NY!

 

[YorkiiTorii]

I don't like the system either, but to ignore it is to ignore profit.  There are people in real need of massage therapy that may not receive it under any other circumstance.  My job is to facilitate healing for people and I will do that under any circumstance.  Cash, charge, ATM, money order, travelers check, bank check, online payments,insurance, and sometimes even barter. It is what it is. As far as what it typically pays me.  For an accident case, I get about $35-40 per 15 minutes.  The treatment is highly specialized for a certain area and they typically last 30 minutes each session .  The sessions are generally 2x per week for 4-6 weeks.  I do have to do a lot more paperwork but after you find out what they are looking for, it goes pretty quickly. The setback is that you don't get paid instantly.  They usually send a check within a month of sending in a claim.  The check is usually for the entire month. When it comes it is nice.  Comparatively, you can look at it like this.  For 60 minutes of treatment for the week for a relaxation massage, I get $60.  The client may come once or twice for the month totalling $120. For an auto accident insurance case, I get $160 for that same week.  They will come for at least 4 weeks totalling $640.  After that they generally come back for wellness massage. I think it is time for therapist to get over their fears of the medical system, use their gifts where needed, and prosper.

 

[James K]

[quote author=medicine_hands link=board=bus;num=1115329895;start=0#13 date=05/16/05 at 19:07:22]I don't like the system either, but to ignore it is to ignore profit.  There are people in real need of massage therapy that may not receive it under any other circumstance.  My job is to facilitate healing for people and I will do that under any circumstance.  Cash, charge, ATM, money order, travelers check, bank check, online payments,insurance, and sometimes even barter. It is what it is. As far as what it typically pays me.  For an accident case, I get about $35-40 per 15 minutes.  The treatment is highly specialized for a certain area and they typically last 30 minutes each session .  The sessions are generally 2x per week for 4-6 weeks.  I do have to do a lot more paperwork but after you find out what they are looking for, it goes pretty quickly. The setback is that you don't get paid instantly.  They usually send a check within a month of sending in a claim.  The check is usually for the entire month. When it comes it is nice.  Comparatively, you can look at it like this.  For 60 minutes of treatment for the week for a relaxation massage, I get $60.  The client may come once or twice for the month totalling $120. For an auto accident insurance case, I get $160 for that same week.  They will come for at least 4 weeks totalling $640.  After that they generally come back for wellness massage. I think it is time for therapist to get over their fears of the medical system, use their gifts where needed, and prosper. [/quote] did you take a course in insurance billing?

 

[reds]

I'm haveing a hard time with your math but my worrie for you is that your cash rate seems to be kinda lowif  your at 160 per hr for ins you should be 85 to 100 per hr for cashjust a thought

 

[HerHuggyBunny]

Insurance billing

I think if you add in the time it takes to do all he paperwork and other administrative tasks required with insurance you get very little difference in billing(per hour)btw: I don't do insurance BECAUSE of the paperwork

 

[Brother Handcannon]

Insurance billing

the paper work involved only takes on avage five min.so it does work out in the end