Karly at Den????

[beartree]

I booked an appt w Karly at the Fox Den for noon. When I arrived ON TIME, I was told to go next door for a coffee as Karly was running late.

Twenty minutes later I get there and I am escorted to a room with Karly. But something is amiss. Karly in a previous eforum.xxx review is described as having a perfectly toned tushy. This girl does not. Although she is about 5'3" like the website describes. And this girls hair is very curly, naturally curly and blonde. Unlike the photos on the Carman Fox website. "Karly" says she needs some new photos taken.

I decide to go through with the appt anyways. Shower up and Karly joins me on the bed. I pass on the massage and we get right into it. She begins with a very good CBJ. But she tells me with my size, we cannot do mish, possibly doggy, but cowgirl, even reverse cowgirl will not be enjoyable for HER!? I'm sorry, did you pay 3 browns and a green for your pleasure? After the CBJ, we moved on to 69, which was nice. We tried doggy, but this does not work for me under the best of circumstances. Bad knees. The rest of the session was OK, not great.

Showered up, she joined me briefly. We chatted and I left feeling disappointed and duped. Was I? in the pix, Karly does not have tattoos, but this "Karly" had one on her lower back. I'm thinking it wasn't Karly.

Would I repeat? I would like to see the real Karly first. Then I would think about repeating.

For what it's worth, that's my post.

Cheers,

monsterman

 

[daphne o]

You got only OK satisfaction for your $$$.2 with a girl with restrictions on ordinary positions and with your suspicion of bait & switch.

If you repeat at Fox Den, I think you would be better to choose an often and positively reviewed Fox, one who give you your money's worth.

 

[cool person]

For that kind of money you could have seen any number of girls that would have left you dazed, drooling, and dreaming of the nasty things they did to you.

Drew

 

[kayla_b_323]

CF seems to have too many girls working for them; it's become too much of a hit and miss lately. You rarely see a great review on someone that hasn't been well-reviewed already (i.e. Jenna, etc)


BTW, why is this review in the Massage section??

 

[mit endorI]

Its too bad we cant keep a list somewhere of the foxes that have done something like this. You were just plain ripped off. This should almost be put in neighborhood watch. A couple of days ago it was Nola fox and now Karly fox. These girls are scamming because they do not like what they are doing. It seems that most of the foxes are pretty good or excellent. It appears that even at the den you need to research first and only book by name and reviews.

 

[hermafrodite]

I think everyone needs to be a bit more forgiving.... not of the girl, but of the Fox Den itself. Growth in any company brings with it quality control issues. I don't go to the Den, but I go to Madame Cleo's, which also has a large staff.... I like to walk in and choose from a vast selection of ladies. One of the trade-offs in a large staff, I think, is that service might be less consistent. What matters more is how management responds when you are unhappy (with realistic expectations) and that they do the best they can to make it up to you. And, of course, is an unhappy experience the exception, not the regular experience. The fox den is regularly reviewed positively, so chances are high you will have a good time there. If you don't speak to someone in management and give them your feedback, not only can they not make it up to you in some way, but they also have no idea that a memeber of their staff is alienating clientele. I think that how management deals with a complaint is most important. Well, I guess as long as I don't have reason to complain every time I indulge! And I don't, so maybe that's why its easy to take the high road here! From everything I've read, it sounds like the FD wants to do the right thing, but they're just experiencing growing pains and don't have a proper system to deal with customer complaints, like onsite management.

 

[Nostalgic for Disaster]

hey guys,
I put this review in the Massage Section because I visited the Fox Den. I guess it could have gone in another section just as well.

I went with Karly because of the pix on the Carman Fox website and because of ONE review by a fellow eforum.xxxite. The review said she had a toned tushy. And like I said earlier, this girl did not have a toned tushy. It was rather large for a petitie girl. I'm thinking Karly was unable to make her scheduled appointed time, it was noon, maybe it was too early for her. I would have rather have the Fox Den be honest with me and let me know that Karly was unable to make her appointment, no reason or explanation necessary, and then I could re-book. Instead of what I think they did, substituted another girl.

I expect certain restrictions - digits, anal, etc. But her restrictions were too much. When she stated them, I figured I still could salvage this session and still enjoy my time with her, but I certainly did not. In fact, I went directly to the Five (No. 5 Orange), got a lap dance then headed over to Madame Cleo's and saw Aaliyah. Review to follow.

I am wondering what wil happen if I book another appointment with Karly (I really like her pix)? Will I get the real Karly?

monsterman

 

[asian babe]

Ummm.... true, but that's not our problem, nor is it really the point in this case..... You are right though that, if CF really does want to do the right thing, starting with proper onsite management and a 'customer service' dept. of some sort would help.

 

[PaMacJa]

I'd just like to add that, on my way to walking to NCIX today, I noticed the Fox Den now has an address on it's awning. Unlike before, all you could tell that it was the Fox Den was the "FD" in fancy font.

Now it's the "FD" with an added "4717" awning and another Fox Den symbol sign on the street level building front.

 

[isabella]

Fair enough.... I wasn't really referring to just this review, tho, but to the other replies as well. There seems to be a fair bit of negative feedback on Carmen Fox recently. I think that it is a direct correlation to growth. In any large enterprise there's always going to be staff that miss the mark, and clients that are unhappy. That's a given. It's what they do with it from there that matters.

Also, this poster should have had someone to complain to, in person, after his unhappy experience with Karley Fox. It would be to the agency's advantage, so that when unhappy customers post on this board they review and then also say what kind of compensation they received for inadequate service.

That's all. Jeez, I haven't even been there I seem to have more opinion than experience.

 

[Toniann]

Hi there....

Perhaps I can shed a little light here.

1. The girl you saw is Karly. Have a look at picture #7 on her profile and see if the smile is familiar.

2. Girls LOOOOOVE to change their hair styles so it's not a good indicator that she is or isn't the girl you thought, and she did admit she needs new pics.

3. You mentioned her restrictions were relative to positions. Perhaps you are one of those lucky men who are blessed in a certain nether region. I'm not tall either and sometimes I have a hard time taking on a bigger guy. Other thing is sometime clients can be REALLY rough. Perhaps she had someone before you that was rough and she was feeling a little tender.

4. If you were expecting a petite figure as in spinner proportions, 34C-27-36 means the girl has some curves. And by now means am I in anyway insinuating that she's a big girl, she is not. I know her and have always found her to have a great athletic build with nice round bum. She has a yummy bum

5. Lateness.... sometime things happen. She might have been at the den with another client who had showed up late, which caused her to run late as well. It's hard to find the right balance. If someone shows up 15 minutes late for their apt.... they will be pissed if it's canceled despite the fact that it's them who is late.... then they will be pissed if they don't get the full hour.

It's hard to please everybody all the time but I do know that the girls at the den and the staff really do try as hard as they can.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Description of the tattoo has been removed from this thread and please boys and girls. PLEASE DO NOT post descriptions of Tattoos or other distinguishing body markings.

 

[Ivory]

Sorry about the description of the tattoo, I guess that was a little specific. I mentioned it only because I did not remember seeing it in the photos. But I guess because of the nature of the tattoo, they thought they shouldn't photograph it.

And yes, Karly's tushy is yummy as Indy _______ states, but I guess my idea of toned differs from a previous reviewer.

If I'm ever in VanCity again, and I will be, I think I might go with Madame Cleo's or maybe even the Swedish Touch (although they are a bit too pricey). I just like the idea of seeing IN PERSON the girl you want to spend time with, not to mention $$$. It is so easy to get mislead by photos, descriptions, and numbers (36-24-36, etc).

And yes, I am blessed in the nether region. Karly said I should mention this when I call to make an appt next time. So that is good advice for fellow eforum.xxxites (or eforum.xxxers?). My size does complicate things sometimes.

happy pooning

monsterman

 

[standaman]

MM, I am impressed!

Many reviewers have a snit when comments/suggestions/"constructive criticism" are/is offered. You handled it well, far better than many who take it as a personal attack.

Good luck pooning, hope you find someone you like

 

[KandyGirl16]

hey Monster,
I saw Karly last Fall and back then, she definately did not have tattoos on her lower back - then again, she could have gotten it recently.
She did have curly hair though and was about 5'3 so based on the rest of your description, it is fairly accurate of Karly.
Karly does have some restrictions but I still enjoyed my time with her.
She hasn't been working much though as I have been contemplating seeing her again.

 

[omarvader]

Does this Karly have a scar on her left cheek? The reason I ask is, as I got on the skytrain yesterday I noticed this attractive girl, she was talking on her cellphone. I sat behind her and couldn't help overhearing her conversation. She talked about "The Fox Den" and something about her schedule. I would have talked to her about it but decided not to in the interest of discretion since there were several other people on the train. Anyway I noticed in she had a scar on her left cheek (at least it looked like a scar) and a piercing on the left side of her upper lip, and a tattoo (which I won't describe here) on her lower back. Seen when she got off the train at metrotown. When I got home I looked over the Carmen Fox site pictures and found the ones for Karly. In Karly's pics the piercing is identical and the scar on her cheek is slightly visible but I'm not sure. The description of her, age, weight, height, hair colour fits the girl I saw but I just want to confirm the scar. So, can confirm whether this girl I saw is Karly from my description?

 

[Arlo]

I saw her and reviewed her last fall aswell, it was her first week as a Fox (probably as an SP) and I too was restricted from doggy as my "size" was an issue. I also was restricted from any kissing and her CBJ was terrible. She has a killer body and look I agree, one that I'd like to be rough with but shes too big a wimp it would seem....see talisa or stacey if you want someone who can handle size...