Learning a good lesson

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Let me just say that I have been busy! Part-time & self-employed but for me with the rest of my life (kids, husband's business, house) it's busy! Careful what you pray for, huh?

Anyway, I am learning the hard way that you, rather than your clients, have to be in charge of your schedule otherwise you'll end up with 1 client smack dab in the middle of the day every day of the week thus messing up your entire week. So this is my 2nd quarter resolution. I will no longer ask clients what time would be good for them to come in. From now on, it is "I have a 9:30 available on Tuesday or Thursday". The next time available after the 9:30 is filled is 11:00, and so on. If I have more clients than that, I fill out from there.

Do y'all see any problems with that? Could it or would it run clients off? Or am I just taking charge of my life?
 


Can you book people around "middle of the day" client? What if you had limited hours? Like 9 to noon two days a week and 3 to 7 one day a week? Or whatever hours worked well for you. If you set your hours and don't give up your family hours would that work? For the space I rent at currently I see clients three mornings a week and two afternoons/early evenings. It gives me time to have three afternoons for other activities/jobs and it's flexible enough that I can see my "after 9 to 5" clients, "early morning" clients, and those that prefer coming in on their lunch break.

With the hours I am given on my lease I break it into time slots, the same every week. I always see am clients at 9 and 10:30 (rarely an exception - 90 min session or something). My afternoons/evenings are slightly different, since I go to pilates at noon one day a week. But for the most part my clients have come to ask for the "10:30 on Tuesday" or "4:30 on Friday." It's made my schedule book (and life) much easier to manage.

Just my 2 cents there. Let us know how you make out. :)
 


Generally my rule has been I have to be done by 2:00 because I have to pick the kids up from school. But the problem is that they'll choose 1:00 every single time. I might consider some evening hours but the problem is my husband has his own busines (on call 24/7) so it's hard to schedule appts after 2:00 without knowing for sure if the husband can watch the kids. Plus, my time with the family is important. My boys will only be little so long, pretty soon they won't have any use for me, I'm enjoying them while I can.

With the filling time slots thing, that's not to say that if they say (after presented with my available times) that the only day they have open is ____ after 12 then we can talk from there. I just need to be a little more in charge of my time.
 


I agree with Dragonflies. Decide which mornings you will be available and which afternoon/evenings you'll be available so at least people have that much of a choice.

I used to say "what time do you want to come in" which was so stupid because I'd have the craziest schedule. Then I started to give them time slots to choose from, but I was available everyday....so I'd end up with a scattered schedule like you mentioned.

Wednesdays for me were historically slow, so I gave them up entirely. Same with Mondays, I'd get no shows or last minute cancellations, so I gave up Mondays (I'll take evenings appts tho from people I know). And that leaves 3 days...historically my busiest to fill my book up. I also work half a day on Saturday, but only for prebooked appts. I so very rarely do same day unless it's someone I know.

So I have 3.5 days to work and 3.5 days to spend with my family....right now that works for me. Even if it means that I have one morning appt and 3 afternoon/evening appts with a few hours gap in between. I can run errands, go home for a visit, or stay at the office and read.

Good luck with your schedule I am sure you'll find something that works for you.

edit: oops you must have posted when I was still writing.....
 


AV8TRX said:
But the problem is that they'll choose 1:00 every single time.

With the filling time slots thing, that's not to say that if they say (after presented with my available times) that the only day they have open is ____ after 12 then we can talk from there. I just need to be a little more in charge of my time.
There's nothing wrong with being in charge of your time. After all, you're the practitioner here! :) However, if your clients take the 1pm slot everytime why not offer them anything "between 9am and 12:30pm" any given day of the week. If that doesn't work for them perhaps you and hubby can sit down and declare one afternoon a week for you to see clients. If he gets a call and has to leave the sitter is arranged, or perhaps another parent could pick up the kids one afternoon a week and watch them at her house for an hour or two? You're not sacrificing all of your family time, but one afternoon or early evening a week sounds like a nice middle ground to me.

Hope you find something that works for you and your clients.
 


It's probably already been said, but I am having a hard time concentrating on all the numbers in the posts for some reason..... :)

So:

"I have a 9:30 available on Tuesday or Thursday". The next time available after the 9:30 is filled is 11:00, and so on. If I have more clients than that, I fill out from there.

I personally don't like this idea, because you have more avaliable slots and are telling the person you can have 9:30 and then if they say "no", you are saying well, then you can have 11:00. I think it may make people feel you are being inconsiderate by not telling them what the availiability really is, if that makes sense.

Here's a thought.

We know you need to be out of there by 2:00pm and you don't like cutting it so close with the 1:00 pm massage. Assuming you mainly take 1 hour appointments and you like to start at 9:30 am, you could just make your books be availiable for the following:

* 9:30 am - Massage avaliable
* 11:00 am - Massage availiable
* 12:30 pm - Massage availiable

There could be some fudge time if you felt like you weren't going to have any other massages that day, but if you tried to start booking on this sschedule it would allow you for three slots per day, that the client could choose from and still get you home in time.

This is what we do with our books.

We have an appointment book with the times starred / highlighted that we take appointments (of course our times are different because we work more lunch and evenings). Depending on the client and how the day looks we will decide if we are willing to change a highlighted time when a client needs a better fit. Usually we don't make changes of the set times unless it is someone special (long term client, or someone we just know is not taking advaneforum.xxxe). On occasion you get people who take advaneforum.xxxe, but then you just adjust them back to what is "availiable" on the next appointment.

Our office started working a LOT smoother when we incorporated this method.

So, it could sound like this on the phone:

"AV8TRX Massage, how may I help you?"

"Oh, hi, I'd like to book a massage with you. I hear you are great!"

"Well, thats wonderful. *smiles* How did you hear about me?"

"Oh, my girlfirend ShamaLamaDingDing from the 50's Diner just raved about you!"

"Really! Well my office hours are T-W-Th from 9:30 until 12:30. Is there a particular day or time that is better for you?"

"Oh, Mondays are best, but since you are open on Tuesday... what do you have avaliable?"

"I have a 9:30, 11:00 and 12:30 availiable."

etc......


Hope it helps. :)
 


I think the advice in this thread is great. I have nothing to add, but did want to say...


"Oh, my girlfirend ShamaLamaDingDing from the 50's Diner just raved about you!"

:smt044
 


I have a very part-time practice too, and my clients know I'm only available for short times. Because of this I do just offer a single time -- "I have an 11 o'clock on Saturday" or whatever the appt is I have open/want to offer. They don't seem to mind.
 


I know how you feel, I have a lot of regular clients that always get the same time, which is fine, but there is one that is so high maintenance and thinks I have nothing better to do than rush to meet her! If she has a 10am appointment, she'll call and say "there's no way we can do it earlier? Like 9:30am?" (This just happened last week, so I said "well, I can cancel my dogs vet appointment...") and I didn't even get a "thank you for working your schedule to fit this in" or anything like that. Now, I tell people when I'm available, but I will still work with them, but you have to set your limits.
 
Learning a good lesson

AV8TRX said:
I will no longer ask clients what time would be good for them to come in. From now on, it is "I have a 9:30 available on Tuesday or Thursday". The next time available after the 9:30 is filled is 11:00, and so on. If I have more clients than that, I fill out from there.

Do y'all see any problems with that? Could it or would it run clients off? Or am I just taking charge of my life?

Good for you AV8TRX!! :smt023 I started this kind of scheduling a few years back and truly it is the best thing I did to take control of my time.

I have found it best to qualify them first, "Do you prefer mornings or evenings?" Once I know which they prefer I offer them the time slots I have available according to their preference, "I have a 10AM on Tuesday or a 11:15AM on Thursday...which one would you like?" Then I'm quiet until they tell me which one will work for them.

I do get the occasional call from someone who wants me to adapt my schedule to them. I am very kind, but I refuse. "No I'm sorry but I'm not available on that day. I am available on blankety blank and blankety blank. Do you prefer mornings or eve...". :D
 


Yep, I now schedule pretty much the same way as what's already been described. I don't ask what time they'd like to come in, ks that gives them the subconscious message that they're in control of your practice. It also makes me look like a newbie :) Instead, I first ask them if they are looking for a morning, afternoon, or evening appt. (I have different hours on different days, so this also partially dictates what day, which is why I don't ask what day they're looking for first...unless, of course my schedule is pretty wide open.) So it's something like:

Me: "Do you prefer mornings, afternoons, or evenings?"
Client: "I'm generally free in the evenings."
Me: "OK, I have a 6.30 on Monday, a 5 o'clock on Tuesday..." etc.
Client: "Five o'clock on Tuesday sounds good."

Etc.

This way, 1) a therapist can sound busy even if s/he's really not, 2) YOU remain in control of your practice, and 3) you're able to (in a friendly way) sort of "take charge" of the call, which is what clients are looking for. They want to know they're in good, capable, confident hands. They want to know they're dealing with a professional. Leaving your schedule open for them to decide feels sort of wishy-washy :)

Just my ramblings :)
Hugs,
~jyoti
 


My regular clients - those who have literally been with me for years, have standing appointments for their regular time slot - 1Pm 2:30PM, etc on their regular day of the week every week, every two weeks, once a month, whatever. Those go into the calendar at the first of the year and only come off on a day one of them has to cancel for whatever reason. All other appointments go in around them during the hours I schedule appts - 9:30A till 7P Mon-Fri.... It works well for me that way. Keeps the regulars very happy, and the new clients develop their own standing appointment times too when they have been with me for a while... everyone wins and I go home happy.....
 


I did not have time to read the other posts, but I tell my clients what appointments I have available for the week and they can choose from those openings. I have made the mistake of asking the client when they would like to rebook, but then they come up with some weird times and always choose my days off. So, it's easier for me to just say, these are my openings, what would work best for you? Works Great!!!!
 
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    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  30. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’– MakeIt Monday ๐Ÿ’œ SL West ๐Ÿ’– your ultimate destination for luxury Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakville. ๐ŸŒŽ๐ŸŒ9 stunning Girls from China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” 34D Suki, Cindy, ๐Ÿ‰Queen Selena, Kelly, Amber, Busty Echo, JPN Yui, RMT Miya & ๐Ÿ†•Jessica โ€” ๐Ÿง˜โ€โ™€โœจTable Shower special on ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐLet the fun times roll, baby!๐Ÿ™Œ
  31. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿ’„ Tiana & Noor are here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  32. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Happy, Nayla & New Girl Lily are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  33. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ’„๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿ”ฅ Wonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)Please โ˜Ž๏ธ4165000-800,if you need to find a comfortable... ๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ’„๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿ”ฅ Wonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)Please โ˜Ž๏ธ4165000-800,if you need to find a comfortable place to revive your body come visit us.beautiful attendants AMY Mina Mimi seevice you relieve stresses.๐Ÿ˜Amy is very sexy and long hair fridendly girl, Mimi is younge sexy girl excellent service make...
  34. Newspring@:
    ๐ŸŒนNu spring spa โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ sexy hot Viennese and Latino girl working at Nu spring spaโ˜Ž๏ธ 416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ
  35. Sparkling Spa:
    Sexy Korean Massage Girl Summer is working at Sparkling Spa with Service Queen Zoe today. Real pictures of Summer & Zoe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏCall or text to book appointment ๐Ÿ“ฒ โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY
  36. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธYoyo๐ŸŒธCarly๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  37. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Rose๐ŸŒน - A sexy new addition to our lin
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Doris ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, ASHA, MALIYA, SANA, ANGELINA, MEERA, NISHA, AMANDA, MIMI, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธKimCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  42. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  43. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girlโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  44. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 32 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa, : LALA,[/color 19Yrs young & beautiful petite, pretty, baby faced Japanese, 5โ€™2โ€ 90Lbs B Cup, bbbj, rim. Lala is energetic, fresh, beautiful & innocent, makes your heart beat. Beauty and youth can conquer everything. Highly recommended ๐Ÿ‘ SUKI, baby face student, nice all natural C Cups, short 5โ€™2โ€, sexy ass,
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Yuki 30โ€™s open mind slime and young fun Selina with curves body 30โ€™s , pretty GFE Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the official schedule for AMORE SPA: (Korean Ashley hasn't been here for AGES. The old confused imposter doesn't realize he has lost another customer, and continues to post errors and incorrect pics). Monday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY(10AM-11pm) & *New Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian
  47. Mephistopheles:
    Where is milf mimi working, a little crazy lady.
  48. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  50. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Lisa & Ruby. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Lisa is a young, slim & very beautiful Vietnamese beauty with a nice body, nice boobs, nice massage, incredible services.
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