It has been there awhile then. It seems like I drive by it a lot but it doesn't seem to be very busy, I guess that may explain why. I just assumed they must have a rude, crude, mamasan at the door. When hearing about Amp place at Braker/I35 I assumed this was it. How many years ago on the vice commander? And if true about the girl, that would be bad feng shui. Thanks for info.