massage always includes HJ in Quebec?

[Muse to my Ears]

In Quebec does a massage always include a HJ, or is that something you pay extra for?

 

[halifax666]

Well now that is not totally true, there are a lot of massage practitioners and therapists who are legit and offer massage and nothing more.

Monboy, the best bet is to go to the back of the local free paper the Mirror and pick someone from the last massage section, you are pretty much sure to get what you are looking for there...or come back here and read about what we find.

Oliver, to say a massage therapist would not have repeat business if they did not give hand jobs...come on.

 

[Exilis]

No Oliver I am not closed mined to the possible...but life is not like a porn movie...and I find it hard to believe that so many women would so easily give them selves over to you...or anyone else for that matter for the sake of a little cash...not to say I dont believe you or your facts, I am just stating my opinion on the matter.

If you have been lucky enough to have experienced all of this in your life, then God has smiled upon you.

 

[TheAnswer]

I'm with Oliver. No disrespect Greenman, but maybe you need a larger sample set.

I've been doing the massage scene for almost 15 years, in the USA, Canada, and Asia. Massage women get asked for hand jobs every day from male customers and few refuse to give it if you ask politely and with respect, especially if you're a repeat customer. The most incorruptible licensed massage therapists around know that if you ask and they don't give you the HJ by your second visit there's an almost zero percent chance of your visiting her again.

It's true that massage women are a special sample of the overall population, more oriented toward certain actions and behaviors than other samples of the female population. I don't believe any of them see themselves as "giving themselves over". They're just giving you a hand job and it's going to be over in ten minutes and life will go on.

On the life is not like a porn movie comment, my experience is that life is what you make it. If you want to make your life into your own porn movie by seeking out otherwise regular women who do what pornstars do, you will find them. Some of the wildest women I've been with didn't look anything like hookers and had pretty normal lives as Moms.

Of course if you choose to stay in a social circle of women where frequent or wild sex isn't the norm, well, your life won't be like a porn movie and if you're reading this board, it's likely you'll either be masturbating a lot or going to AMPs and hookers.

Cheers!

 

[JackaLxM]

You know i refuse to believe that woman HAVE to give a hand job in order to have repeat business, and I am sure that the young lady giving me massage right now would say the same thing, as well as all the woman at the school where I am taking massage courses.

Do you all expect the young lady at your local Berger King to give you a hand job with that?

Or the young girl behind the counter at the Metro?

Just because someone is working in the field of massage therapy does not mean they give hand jobs.

Personaly, if a person is so shallow as to not go back to a massage therapsit because she did not give him a hand job...well he has other issues...

 

[Lani]

Guys, the CMT and MP marketplaces are so far apart that you can't see one when standing in the other side.

CMTs are mostly in day spas, aroma therapy, and beauty parlour settings. Many work in hotel settings (as mentioned the Holiday Inn situation), and they cater to a completely different customer base than an MP does. Their clients are going to be more often female, and more often interested in relaxtion and the pleasure of someone pampering them, rather than getting their (female) rocks off.

Yes, in these settings, under the right circumstances, with the right CMT, a HJ might be in the cards. There is nothing that can stop two consenting adults, ya know? Going to them expecting to find a HJ or more would be a total waste of time.

There is a very large day spa on Decarie (the old Bonanza / Mikes / whatever else it was). I think you would find a number of CMTs working there, but I suspect very few HJs have ever occured in there.

Unless a CMT is working in one of those situations, it is unlikely they are making good money, certainly not the type of money that girls are making in rub'n'tug situations. CMTs working from their homes advertising in the paper and not giving HJs will find themselves with very few repeat clients, as they are trying to sell themselves in a marketplace that expect certain situations to exist. A CMT in this situation really needs to rethink their marketting plan, as they are trying to sell to the wrong people!

MATt

 

[Zilch]

Oliver, first off, using the "cunt" just goes to show me what you think of these woman you visit...it shows me you do not regard them as human but a bit of meat for your needs and nothing more, and you will search out the best deal, then still haggle over the cost.

Bob makes a great point, these woman are human and should be treated as such...not as a cunt as you put it.


Matt AKA Manabout Town also makes a good point, 90% of the girsl who give hand jobs and more are not RMT's they are not trained in the body and the skills, as most posts in this forum show..."the massage was lose and not a real massage, but the hand job and release was awesome" is the type of review we see here every day...and I dont think I have ever been give a any paper to take to my medical for a refund on the cost.

Let's face it, when we go to see and MP it is usually more about the tug then the actual rub...some MP's, like Maylee surprise us with their skill, and they are rare gems...

If you want a real massage you go to spa, or to the Y or a health club...you want a tug you go to the back of the mirror.

Oh, and Oliver, if you went to a spa and had a guy massage you would you then expect him to roll you over and pull on your cock?

 

[deonnawanna]

Stripperlover,

I'm 36, so not that young, and have been around enough to understand people, and how to manipulate a situation as you put it...without giveing away to much detail let us say that 18 years of my life have been spent in the service of the public and in working close with people daily, I hold to university degrees, both in the field of human mental science and health...

You know, it is easy to manipulate people who are young, or down on their luck, or on drugs...or just plain in need of a good meal...when someone flashs a $5 in front of you and says hey you can have this if you suck my cock...that does not make it right, that does not make it skill, and it does not make it the truth...it makes the person who does it a sad human being (AND BY NO MEANS AM I SAYING THIS IS YOU)

As for the stripper putting your number in her phone...well, very cool of she actually calls you...I am sure you are old enough and wise enough to know that with this girl it will be all about the money.

 

[Pompal 09.]

EB, i just read that thread - one or two people suggesting there MIGHT be something maybe possibly perhaps... nobody saying they got extra anything. However, a number of people seemed to get a vibe that they felt might go further, and one person said they got sort of any offer but couldn't follow through.

Under the right circumstances, with the right person, at the right time, I am sure the occassional HJ does occur in that place.

Remember: that thread has maybe 10 posts, and probably 1000 reads... so there a ton of people not saying anything.

MATt

 

[BIG_Jason]

Here is the funny part: if I got extras in a place where they were not suppose to happen, i am not sure i would make a whole public thing out of it. I would smile, nod my head, and enjoy it again in the future.

A ton of people read that thread, and few decided to add to it. You can take what you want from it.

Two adults together in a private room... what happens? Who knows?

MATt

 

[David P]

Today, most places that offer massages will offer HJ as well! I have come across few places that do not offer HJs . It is important to ask for it respectfully and diplomaticly. One way is to say: I often go to places that offer complete (or European) massages, I prefer them because it is more relaxing. At this point the masseuse will either make this availble to you of decline your request.
These ladies have been asked for HJs at least a thousand times, they know what to expect when they started to do this job.
I can tell you that even in Hotel massages all you have to do is tell them you have traveled widely and ask if "complete massages" were customary in this city, because it seem to be the case in Europe, (especialy eastern europe) the orient, and south america. Truthfully, I have not traveled to all those places, but this is the line I use. I can tell you that I have gotten complete massages in Hotel in Montreal, Toronto, NYC, San Francisco, Chicago, and Washington DC. It helps if you do not use phrases like "Whack my Willy", just ask if a complete or european massage is possible! It helps if you ask at the begining of the massage, if the girl is so inclined she will massage diplomaticly at the completion of the massage. Complete massages at Hotels are mostly done by outside persons that work at the hotel when guest request massages the are not authorized to do HJs, but I have gotten quit a few. As far as spas, I have heard about one spa in Toronto where the masseuse did do completes, and I have spoken to one masseuse that told me that she offered completes in a spa in Montreal.


FYI: the phrase "complete" or "european" massage is used widely in Montreal. In the States the phrase "massage to completion" is prefered.

 

[muggs]

Hi all,

Sorry, I am new here. Could anyone tell me is receiving HJ in MPs Quebec illegal?
So what's legal and what's not?

Thanks for advises.

 

[L B]

Audi -

I'm not 100% sure, but I think that the masseuse is not supposed to offer up the HJ, you have to ask for it. At a place like Sophie's which doesn't have a big sign on the front door or offer insurance receipts, you needn't bother asking. At other places, like on Laurendeau, they offer receipts and the masseuse will wait to be asked before touching Mt Happy.

I'm sure that the more senior members could add more to this (or even correct).

Cheers

Randy