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I have a friend that was diagonosed in 99 and finished treatment in 2000 and has had no recurrance of cancer since then.

Is massage still contra indicated for her? I have had conflicting information, and thought I would throw it out there.

I did find some info, that massage would not be contra-indicated.

http://www.massagemag.com/2004/issue107/research107.htm

http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drw_cda.html-command=TodayQA-questionId=6062

However they do teach in school that it is contraindicated.

What do you think?

Thanks,
Jenn
 
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Hi I this is a topic that all schools need to update. I was taught that it is contraindicated in school. Then when I was out of school I took "Medical Massage for the Cancer Patient" at Sloan Kettering. Yes we can massage cancer patients. There are just a few things to taking into consideration. If there is no recurrance and the cancer is gone and the person is in good health, her body is waiting for that massage! Just be aware and always ask if they removed any lymph nodes. Never massage any area where nodes have been removed unless you are train in manual lypmhatic drainage. This goes for anyone including cancer free patients.If someone is diagnosed with cancer and still wants a massage it is still ok for them to be touch. You can even massage someone going through chemo (it actually can help with the side effects)but that gets more tricky. You need to research the drugs and talk with the patient and doctors. You need to be aware of blood counts, wbc and platelets. My advice for anyone wanting to work with cancer patients is to research and take a course on it. There are several books and classes now available. If anyone would like to know more just contact me. Sloan Kettering is actually offering massage therapy in the hospital which is a federal funded program which is very exciting for all therapist.
 
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I do chair massage to clients receiving radiation treatment at a cancer center located within a hospital. It is important to know the effects cancer treatments have on the body so I recomend a book called"Medicine Hands" By Gayle Macdonald. It covers all cancer massage very lovingly and completely. :)
 
http://www.amtamassage.org/journal/fa_00_journal/cancer_intro.html has some articles from the end of 2000, including details on the Sloan Kettering program. ย That's a link to Part1, but AMTA didn't put PartII in the next issue on the web :( ย  ย I emailed them a while ago asking if they'd consider adding the links, but no response. ย The missing articles from the Winter '01 issue were SPECIAL CANCER SECTION ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย 48 Introduction ย 60 Do The Benefits Of Massage Outweigh The Risks?When working on cancer patients, the answer is often รขโ‚ฌล“yes.รขโ‚ฌโ€Œ By Janice Malloy ย 74 How Cancer SpreadsResearch advancements have given scientists more information about this all-important subject. ย 80 Cancer TherapiesKnowing how the body reacts to radiation and chemotherapy is vital to providing your clients with the best care possible. By Debra Curties ย  86 Lymphedema 101: What Every Therapist Should KnowIf a client has had even one lymph node removed, itรขโ‚ฌโ„ขs an entirely new ball game.By Cheryl Chapman
 
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Sloan Kettering's Workshops and Programs

http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/11802.cfm

For those interested in taking Part 1 there is an optional 3rd day. I strongly recommend it! I learned more that day then the entire time. They take you on rounds in the hospital, it was an amazing experiance (not easy and not for everyone but it is one way to figure out if its something you want to be apart of)
 
In Volume 8 Issue 1 of the Journal of Bodywork and Movement Therapies, there is an excellent source-review article entitled "Contraindications: ย Do Sources Agree?" (which indicates that in fact they do not). ย It doesn't address cancer specifically, but you get the idea (the article is available online) . . .I have a few cancer-patient clients, in various seforum.xxxes, but all considered to have active cancer now. ย All of their docs/oncologists are OK w/massage, anywhere from "It can't hurt you" ย to "You should definitely get massage." ย My very small experience is that platelet levels, absolute neutrophil counts, bone scans, surgical sites, type & seforum.xxxe of disease, etc. have as yet shown NO pattern in type of massage desired or tolerated by the client, & no matter what I review to the doc/oncologist, I get the same "Whatever, your work is probably fine and affects nothing either way" reaction. ย This really surprised me at first as we were taught (recently!) in school that we should probably not massage cancer patients at all (except v. light touch or energy work) & we should expect resistance from oncology staff. ย Is my experience unique?
 
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BB-LMP said:
My very small experience is that platelet levels, absolute neutrophil counts, bone scans, surgical sites, type & seforum.xxxe of disease, etc. have as yet shown NO pattern in type of massage desired or tolerated by the client, & no matter what I review to the doc/oncologist, I get the same "Whatever, your work is probably fine and affects nothing either way" reaction. ย This really surprised me at first as we were taught (recently!) in school that we should probably not massage cancer patients at all (except v. light touch or energy work) & we should expect resistance from oncology staff. ย Is my experience unique?
 
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BB-LMP said:
I have a few cancer-patient clients, in various seforum.xxxes, but all considered to have active cancer now. ย All of their docs/oncologists are OK w/massage, anywhere from "It can't hurt you" ย to "You should definitely get massage." ย My very small experience is that platelet levels, absolute neutrophil counts, bone scans, surgical sites, type & seforum.xxxe of disease, etc. have as yet shown NO pattern in type of massage desired or tolerated by the client, & no matter what I review to the doc/oncologist, I get the same "Whatever, your work is probably fine and affects nothing either way" reaction. ย This really surprised me at first as we were taught (recently!) in school that we should probably not massage cancer patients at all (except v. light touch or energy work) & we should expect resistance from oncology staff. ย Is my experience unique?

this has been my experience. the powers-that-be don't seem to feel that our work has the potential for harm.
imo, the lymph node issue is the most important piece of information.
then drug side-effects~ my mom, a cancer survivor, was on some drug that irritated the skin on her hands and feet, so much so, that she could not handle any contact on those parts, except for moisturizer, which was painful to apply. (luckily she's not on those meds anymore.)
then physical things like, incision sites/ affected bones/ location of a port are important to me only to ensure a comfortable massage.
 


I agree with daybreak, take a course on it and get more informed...i would make sure to always get a doctors note, releasing this patient for a massage...

~Jennifer McColleyLMT
 


I'm a student in my first semester of MT school, and a friend has offered to be a practice client; he had radiation treatment for medullary thyroid carcinoma and was declared healthy two years ago (fall of 2003). His lymph nodes in his neck were burned away by the radiation. My teacher is not sure whether I should work on him (I'm a little surprised actually) and suggested I do a bit more research.

Our safe practices guide suggests that 3+ years of remission means no issues with massage, but for 2 years one should be cautious about circulatory massage. My friend has a professional massage therapist who moved his lymph down from his neck to relieve the swelling a while back.

I am thinking that circulatory massage everywhere but the neck and shoulder region should be OK, and holds/traction/fulcrum stuff that I have learned recently should be OK in the head and neck region.

Can anyone comment on this? I hate to turn away someone who loves massage, especially after all he's been through (and has been a good friend on top of that)!

Cheers,
BP
 


just get him to call his oncologist's office and ask if it's okay to receive and if there are any "don'ts" (contras)
 
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My training protocol says for persons with lymph node removal or damage, pressure in the node removal area could initiate edema. However as therapists we have no way of knowing if a client has a propensity for this. As always, when dealing with an unknown, err on the side of caution: on the affected side only very light pressure on limb, slightly more on the torso, and a little more on hands or feet. Don't work so deeply or vigorously that hyperemia results.
 


I agree with many of the previous posts, that if you have doubts, you should never hesitate to have the customer ask his/her doctor, at least to calm your own doubts.

I have to also say that I was diagnosed with cervical cancer 2 years ago, and have been in remission for 1 year, and I have no concerns about getting massage for myself.

In some cases, whether to massage or not depends on the type of cancer. Of course, different kinds of cancers should be approached in different ways. Cancers like Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma are different, and are further complicated by the fact that leukemias are auto-immune, and massage is an obvious immune booster.

I found out a lot about cancer from my doctor. People hear the word "cancer" and they (rightly) assume the worst, but not all cancers are as aggressive as, say, lung, breast, or prostate cancer. In my case, some people have undiagnosed cervical cancer for many years before it ever metastisizes, and is viewed as a "less threatening" cancer, although some patients are diagnosed and die within 6 months.

Obviously, I think it is vitally important to know what you are doing before attempting to work on anyone with active or remissed cancers, but it can be done safely and with great benefits to the patient. My mother runs a mastectomy boutique and I have personally worked on patients with active cancers who are taking chemo or undergoing radiation, and I believe that it is so important for these people.

CAUTION is never a bad thing. EDUCATION is an even better thing. It is always important to know exactly what you are dealing with, and the best way to do that is to get a doctor's consent, IMO.

I was actually surprised that my own doctor did not know about the debate about cancer massage, or why massage might be considered dangerous. When I informed her, she was like "OH gawd no...go right ahead!" But, with the state of litigation being as it is in this country, I think it's never a bad idea to be safe and get as much info and consent as possible.
 
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    Tomorrow's sneak peek: For Tuesday November 12, 2024, our attendants will be Ada โค๏ธ, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Yoyo ๐Ÿคฉ, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜ and Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ Call us at 905-479-6668 to book your favourite!
  29. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo has joined Angela & Noor for the evening ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  30. Newspring@:
    Nu spring spa โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot Latino ๐ŸŒธSingapore ๐ŸŒธKorean girls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ7-15 Karachi dr Markham
  31. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Phoenix has joined Nayla & New Girl Kelly Tonight ๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  32. vnycool:
    Mumbai
  33. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’– MakeIt Monday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– your ultimate destination for luxury Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakville. ๐ŸŒŽ๐ŸŒ9 stunning Girls from China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” 34D Suki, Cindy, Selena, Kelly, Amber, Busty Echo, JPN Yui, RMT Miya & ๐Ÿ†•Jessica โ€” ๐Ÿง˜โ€โ™€โœจTable Shower special on ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐLet the fun times roll, baby!๐Ÿ™Œ
  34. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Kelly ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  35. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  36. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Mika, Apple and Kitty ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  37. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 white skin Latin Spanish girl &Asian girl today /// Young curvy body Colombia girl in Tuesday
  38. Sparkling Spa:
    Sexy Korean Massage Girl Summer is working at Sparkling Spa with Service Queen Zoe today. Real pictures of Summer & Zoe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏCall or text to book appointment ๐Ÿ“ฒ โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ’„๐Ÿ˜ป Wonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)Please โ˜Ž๏ธ4165000-800,4young girl working every day,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is younge sexy girl beautiful face long leg,most of all she know how to make man happy,๐Ÿ’„Mina is36DCup smooth skin ,she can provide back walking nice body slide,get more experience soft to medium, must try๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐ŸŒบ
  40. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, ASHA, NISHA, ANGEL, MEERA, DIYA, NUR, PAYAL PEARL, MIMI ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Rose๐ŸŒน - A sexy new addition to our lin
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธYoyo๐ŸŒธCarly๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธCassyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  44. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young new cute Lily with curve boys 25โ€™s and young slime super GFE 30โ€™s open mind, pretty Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  45. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa, : AMY (12pm โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. LISA (12pm-9pm): is a Korean internet celebrity, young early 20โ€™s, milky white skin
  46. See You Health Center:
    Sasa Very Sexy Vietnamese friendly and milfy . body is amazing Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl 5โ€™ 2โ€, 100 lbs black Hairโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  47. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  48. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Nayla & New Girl Kelly is here today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  50. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
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