Massage Envy

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Grrr. I just found out that there will be a Massage Envy opening up in my area soon. Like 5 miles away. I am NOT excited. I just started building my business, and I have a very wobbly clientel right now, and now this. One of my regulars even told me they are advertising in our movie theater!!!!!!
I know that the regulars I have will probablly stay, and hopefully will bring me more business by referals, but I am nervous. How do you other therapists deal with working in the same area as a ME?
What services do they offer? I visited the website and it looks like Swedish, Deep Tissue, Sports Massage, Reflexology, Trigger Point Therapy, and pre-natal. Do they do spa services too? What are their rates? The introductory rate is 39$, and it says it varries by location, but any info is better than none. What are their package deals? I'd like to know what I am up against.
Any info would be much appreciated!
 


i wouldn't worry too much about them. (of course it's easier for me to say seeing as it's not me in your situation!) keep focused on what YOU offer that they can not. or that they will not. put special touches on your business and make your clients feel that there is no where else they would want to get their massage. don't let your clients or potential clients know that you are concerned about this place moving in.
 


I don't have a massage envy nearby, but I would see it as a bonus! I understand from what I've heard about them that they are "get em in get em out" type of service, probably with lower quality therapists (sorry to anyone who works there! I'm generalizing! I'm sure some are top notch, but not most)

So if they're advertising...that *might* be good. They are getting the word out about massage. Someone recently posted about how they were starting to get clients from OTHER people's ads.

I once gave a massage to someone who had only had massages at ME and she was gushing about how mine was the best massage she'd ever had. Well. yeah.

So it may tap some of the client base, but I don't think you have much to worry about. It may help you business by the education factor.
 


Over a year ago we had a ME open up about 6 or so blocks from us. It has had almost no impact on our business. Sure, some of our clients went and tried them out.....they came right back. One was so stressed over the high pressure sales pitch to sign a contract that she said she had to go have a drink just to calm down.

Our only concern is that they might impact our GC sales slightly due to the fact that they have great signage and people who don't know anything about massage would probably be more apt to go there.

:smt102

But I really don't think we've been harmed at all by them.

Angie
 


my only experience is really word of mouth.

but one person i know (lives in a different city) wanted to join ME, simply for the fact that he could get REGULAR body work, at a price that he could afford to go two or three times a month.

the thing that caused him to not join was automatic deductions from the bank account, but even more than that, they have some kind of structure where clients discount massages start after the payment is deducted, and he really felt he should be able to get massages at the discount price at any point in the month.

maybe that helps some... good luck, but i bet it will be more to your benefit than against.
 


We don't have a ME in our city (Appleton) but I heard that ME in another city in WI (Hudson) is not doing that great. My understanding is that ppl try it once and don't come back.
They were going to open a ME in Appleton so I initially panicked but I am not worried anymore.
 


I have a Massage Envy both 3 minutes and 10 minutes from my home. I work out of my home (table) and do outcalls (table) in addition to my chair work. It doesn't bother me in the least. I have a couple of clients whose friends went to ME and tried to convince them to join.......as my prices are about $25 more. My clients refused........they're not leaving me. Besides they told me their friends weren't real impressed with the work by the ME therapist, but just went there cause it was cheap.

Think about it, do you really want that kind of client? I don't. I wouldn't stress over it........just keep doing your good work.
 
ME makes me cringe

Thanks for the reassurance guys! I appreciate the imput!
Anyone else out there had some experience with ME they would like to share?
 


I wouldn't worry Premo.

If you have the ability to deliver a great massage and can actually cover the majority of the body in an hour you are already 1000 times better than the therapist I saw at ME.

I went there as a client because I make it a point to research the competition when I can afford to by experiencing a session.

I got elbows applied at a 90 degree angle into my Unwarmed medial border of the scapula and in the hour massage (if that is what you want to call it) was applied to my back, the back of my legs and one forearm...

I wouldn't worry just keep delivering great work and concentrate on your own business and you will have nothing to worry about.
 


I also have a ME close to me..no big deal..it seems people try it but only go cause its cheap..but it has not affected my practice I dont think.. :)
 


We have ME and Relax Nation here and it doesn't seem to affect the independents much. You are fine dining, my friend, and they are fast food. Some people prefer fine dining, and others fast food. There's room at the table for all!

Happy New Yaear!
 


You are fine dining, my friend, and they are fast food. Some people prefer fine dining, and others fast food. There's room at the table for all!
LOL I love that analogy! thanks for makin me smile! :D
 


As a therapist at Massage Envy, I can tell you that most of these people are right - some therapists are top notch, but not most. :) The best way to compete with an ME is probably to tell the client that you're going to give them TIME.

That's the big downfall of ME. Not necessarily the 50 minute sessions (a lot of spas do that too), but the fact that if I have a session scheduled at 1:00, I could also have one at 2:00, and 3:00. That means I HAVE to stop the session at 1:50 just so I'll have time for the client to get dressed, to change the sheets on the table, wash my hands and greet my next client. So yes, offer 60 minute sessions, but also book appointments far enough apart that you have time to sit down with the client and really talk to them so that they realize you've listened to what they want and need.
 
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    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Anika , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. ASPA:
    TUESDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Best Massage Rachel, & Wendy ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4โ€ tall with nice responsive 34Cโ€™s and a captivating smooth rounded bottom. She is popular for her excellent massage skills and a little extra.
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: CICI, CINDY & JENNY. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, MIMI & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services.
  43. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5โ€™2โ€tall . 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  44. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Great BBBJ, CIM, GFE in Her menu Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  45. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  46. Sunrise Health Centre:
    Tiana & Noor are here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30โ€™s open mind with big buttocks and young Cute Mia 25โ€™s , pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  49. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Happy, Nayla & Vivian are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  50. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Nancy, Kitty and Olivia ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
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