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Could anyone please recommend somewhere I can get good quality mineral oil, pre-mixed aromatherapy oils and massage creams please?

Many THnaks

Lisa
 
Hi Lisa,

Have you ever tried Tui waxes? They're made from organic beeswax and have essential oils mixed into them (although you can buy an unscented one too.) I have found these to be excellent...better than oil actually because they're easier to apply (no oil bottle) and they won't stain a client's clothes. When you first buy a pot, you do sometimeshave to mix it up a little bit because the wax is a little hard, but it soon softens up and it applies just as normal oils.

Tui Massage & Body Wax
 
Hi Azalia

Thanks for your reply

I haven't tried Tui yet but I have looked at their site and it looks fantastic..so enticing I can almost smell them..I think I will be placing my first order today

Angel Blessings To you

Lisa
 
I agree with Azalia, never use anything else now!! My current fave is the Herbal Lift blend, follwed by Lavendar then Wild Rose. The only one I am not too keen on is the Mountain Forest - too pine scented for me!

The reflexology wax is also fab - I borrow it to massage the feet during a FBM!!

Karen
 
I agree, the Tui waxes are fab. I would dearly love to useTui as everyone who has experienced it absolutely loves the smell, it is so easy to use and gives just enough glide without pulling the skin or allowing you to slip around and leaves the skin beautifully smooth.

But I have come up against a problem...I am trained in Holistic Massage and insured with EMBODY. Unfortunately they won't insure me to use essential oils, even in pre-mixed blends of 1-2% strength, including Tui waxes.

Can anyone recommend an insurance company that will insure non-aromatherapists to use pre-blended oils and waxes?

Thanks!
Clare
 
That's an interesting point..I will contact my insurer SMG professional risk tomorrow and let you know!
 
Hi

I rank SMG as promised and as you suspected I wasn't covered as I am not an aromatherapist ..but they have now added an extra clause to my policy that says I am covered to provide massage using bought premixed waxws/oils/creams ussing essential oils.

So it might be worth checking out with your oen policies to ensure you're covered


Thanks

Lisa
 
Thanks for checking that out! God forbid anyone has a reaction and wants to take action, but best be on the safe side I always think :)

I will have another chat to EMBODY and if they can't accomodate then will switch to SMG when premium needs updating later on this year.

Happy waxing
Clare
 
This is an interesting thread because I was under the impression you can't get insurance to use anything containing any essential oils unless you are qualified in Aromatherapy?
I have just finished my A&P and Massage and am thinking about starting to offer a mobile service or use a room in my house, but was hesitant because I so hate using the horrible cooking oil! I use the lovely Neals Yard pre-blends on my friends at the moment but was told by my tutor that it was definitely not possible to use as a professional. I used the Tui unscented wax in my ITEC massage exam and even with that the examiner really grilled me about it asking what was in it and I got the impression she didn't approve.
Does anyone know if the costs are particularly different with different insurance companies - ie. would the one mentioned in the post above that lets you use pre-blends be more expensive?? - Lisa could I ask how much you are paying for insurance???
Lesley
 
Hi Guys

Just thought I would point out, any vegan clients you have may will probably not want to be massaged using beeswax. Otherwise, they sound great.

Donna.xx.
 
I always make sure I ask my clients if they are ok with my using it as it uses Beeswax. I know some Vegans are happy with it. It is a very good point to be made, and one that is often overlooked - same with Hopi Ear Candles.

Mat xxx
 
I am really hacked off!!

Reading through this thread again, I thought I had better check with my insurers re the use of Tui waxes.

I am also with Embody, so gave them a call, explained that the waxes were great, available to buy by the general public etc etc nothing untoward in them, and that they were great to use.

I explained that I never blend my own oils, noe have any desire to etc etc.

After checking with the insurance broker, they rang bakc and advised me that they would not cover me for the use of these waxes. Not even if I got the cleint to sign a disclaimer.

I LOVE these waxes, and really cannot see what harm they could do to anybody with such low amounts of essentials oils in them. I did tell them that someone had managed to get a rider added to their policy, but they were not willing to do this.

I too will be switching Insurance companies! I do not want to do an Aromatherapy course. I am not using the waxes for Aromatherapy purposes, just to offer the client a nice massage, I make no claims on the benefits of the aroma, nor do I use any wax in particular. I usually offer the fragrances for the client to choose one that they like the smell of.

I guess I will have to go back to Almond Oil for now - until I can get some unfragranced wax ordered.

Fozzyo, Azalia, have you encountered this problem?

Karen

EDIT: I have just rang SMG to get a quote through them. They were quite happy to cover me on the above basis, but their quote for my therapies (massage, hot stones and reiki) was ยฃ155 [] more than 3 times what I pay now for Insurance!! GULP! They admitted that the Hot stones is considered more of a risk than normal massage, but wow. I am going to have to have a good think.[sm=sad2.gif]
 
Hi all,

I just had to renew my insurance, so checked with them if I was insured to use preblended oil, i.e. the Tui range. I am not a qualified Aromatherapist, and at present have no intentions of going down that road. They were very helpful, and said that as long as the massage medium I was using was preblended that was fine. The problem only arises if I am blending my own oils, which I don't do. For anyone interested, I am insured with Woodgate & Partners Ltd, and their number is 01622 740040.

On another note,I have recently started using the Tui waxes, after being recommended them on this forum. They are FAB! I now give my clients a choice of oile or the wax, which I think is good to offer. The trial pots are very small, but well worth giving a go, as they don't cost alot!

Hope this helps!

Tj
 
Hi TJ,

What therapies does your current policy cover you for?

Do you mind me asking how much you're paying for your policy, and what it covers you for? (public/product liability etc)
 
Hi Steveo,

I have a Public and Professional Treatment liability insurance. It covers the equipment I use (and as Im mobile this is important to me), and all the treatments I do. I am trained as a Beauty Therapist, Reflexologist, and also doIndian Head Massage.
The premium is ยฃ47.50.

Hope this helps?!

Tj
 
Wow!

that's really cheap tj!

Are you a member of an org such as embody, fht, ipti etc?

DOes your insurance cover you for product liability as well?

I can't believe how cheap it is!

Do you know who the insurance broker uses to get you this policy?
 
I am also a member of FHT.

I got the insurance through an advert in a magazine - can't remember which one, sorry.Not sure about the product liability. Why don't you give them a ring. Im sure they will be able to answer all your questions!!

Tj
 
Hi TJ,

I have just spoken to Woodgate, and in fact even read them what you have written, but they were adamant that they could not offer cover for preblended oils if I didnt have the relevant qualification to use them, ie Aromatherapy. I assured them that I didn't class it as an Aromatherapy massage, just wanted to use nice waxes etc etc, but the lady I spoke to was not having any of it, she said my qualification must cover their use. I have left it with her that she is going to speak to the Director and call me back.

I told her I was slightly concerned that differing information seems to be given to people - steverobbo, did you call them?

Karen
 
Hi Karen,

Yes I called them and they said exactly the same thing as they said to you!
Spoke to a chap there who also guaranteed me that they could not offer the cover.
I'm already with Towergate (SMG) and can use oils on clients without aromatherapy but wanted to see what Woodgate could offer me.

They also said that the premium of ยฃ47.50 is only if you are a member of FHT.........fair enough but you have to pay a membership fee to FHT and if you add that to the cost of the insurance it's about the same as what i'm paying with Towergate, except that Towergate are a specialist insurance company who only deal with insurance as opposed to membership, courses etc so their level of expertise is somewhat better than others IMO.

To be fair i've never had any probs with Towergate and although their policies can be more expensive I personally feel that you get what you pay for, so i'm happy to pay a little extra if it means that the service i get if a claim is made against me is good. (Friend of mine had a claim made and she said Towergate were excellent in sorting it out for her).

Cheapest is very rarely the best in my experience!

Let me know what Woodgate say Karen (if they actually get back to you!)
 
Thanks for replying. Well, at least they were consistent in that case. I currently only pay ยฃ41.50 insurance with Embody, along with ยฃ58 membership. I may have to go with the SMG quote at ยฃ155 though, as they seem to be the only ones that will add the waiver re preblends.

I will certainly let you know if Towergate reply (BTW the lady said the cover was ยฃ44 before I started asking her questions - she hadnt asked about memberships to any governing body at that point)

Karen
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Rose๐ŸŒน - A sexy new addition to our lin
  30. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Monday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY(10AM-11pm) & *New Spinner NANA (3pm-11pm)[/color] CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. Tiny NANA is an unbelievably good Superstar SPINNER, only 5โ€™2"
  31. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Selina with big buttocks open mind 30โ€™s and young cute Lulu 26โ€™s with tinny body,sweet EFG Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  32. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธYoyo๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธSophia๐ŸŒธAlisa Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  33. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธMariaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  34. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girlโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu. Lin Very Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ5โ€™ 1โ€, 100 lbs โ€จGreat BBJ, CIM Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  35. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sasa Very Sexy Vietnamese friendly and milfy . body is amazing and smooth. Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  36. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Kelly ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  37. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  38. SunriseRH:
    MONDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: MIMI & NAYLA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ MIMI is a slim and pretty Chinese Attendant with a positive demeanor and a readiness to please. NAYLA is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. Come and say hola. SUNRISE SPA
  39. NewOriental:
    MONDAY at ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: HAPPY & KAT 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. KAT is BEAUTIFUL, young & slim with C Cups , a tasty figure & a tasty menu. NEW ORIENTAL SPA
  40. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  41. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Summer โค๏ธ has nice sexy body, and nice breasts. She can give very good massage and fun service. Very sexy, and so friendly. Beautiful girl with great massage skills and willing to give you a happy fun session multiple times if you
  42. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ*New Girl CANDY, YUMI & CINDY CANDY is a slim and attractive Asian Attendant with nice boobs, slim waist & a booty loverโ€™s ass. Candy has a full range of services. YUMI is a sexy skinny Chinese babe, short with big boobs, nice smile & very good services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Lisa, Cindy & Ruby. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. RUBY is Singaporean, very slim, petite & sexy, speaks English well, & has great services. Cindy is a slim beauty,
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  45. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Michelle, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  46. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 11 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, ASHA, MONIKA, NINA, MALIYA, NISHA, SARIKA, SANA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Suki ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  48. EMSpa_schedule:
    โค๏ธโœ…๏ธ Here's a sneak peek of the schedule โœ…๏ธโค๏ธ: For Monday October 21, 2024, our attendants will be Mia ๐Ÿ˜, Summer ๐Ÿคฉ, Vicky ๐Ÿฅฐ, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜ and guest attendant Kimmy ๐Ÿ”ฅ We have a new guest attendant Kimmy joining us tomorrow! โฃ๏ธ
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Michelle, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  50. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, 19 years old Japanese girl Hannah 32F, 20 years Japanese girl Amanda 20 years old, lucky, Jenny, queenie, Vanessa, @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
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