massage parlour problem

[Sweet]

I was at a parlour somewhere in Ontario. I have been to 2 parlours in one area and the massages were crap, and they spelled the extras right out. This one was a different area though, in a town with not much adult entertainment. I went to a shiatsu place that was open late and accepted walk-ins. Now I was not sure exactly how things would go. I chose the attendent and got a good massage. She was very nice. Towards the end she asked if there was anything else I wanted. I asked what was offered and she said I would have to tell her. I never did ask for a special finish, as I was concerned that if this were not that sort of place she would be offended. Was I right to be this way? Is the standard generally that I don't get a menu first? I don't know, maybe I sent bad signals. Are there massage parlours out there (Ontario) that are not licenced, but don't have extras? And is there a subtle way to let them know I am open to extras?

 

[cookiesky]

Hmmm Im not veteran enough to tell if this is some LE asking or a real question.....

it depends what area you are in and what kind of license (if any) the place/girls hold. Once upon a time there were entrapment laws protecting us (the attendants) and we would never list services! They (the client) had to ask. Generally rule of thumb...ask for what you want. If they dont offer it, they will say no. If they do, well, you wouldnt have posted this! LOL

 

[?!-?SaRaH?-!?]

Yeah sometime it is hard to ask, me as a general rule I tend to remove the towel with the excuse that I get warm, that generally is a sign to her that "touching is welcome" and when the occasional brushing against the balls, I make sure to let a little "aaahhh" of approval. good luck.

 

[His LadyBug]

I have experienced this once or twice and maybe it is because you look like you could be a cop (that's what I have been told when it happened) and they are not sure. If they are asking you where you want to be massaged on the flip they are expecting you to tell, point, or put their hand on your member!

 

[Loveable]

That is pretty standard in areas where there may be LE activity. If she asks "anything else" it means there is a wider menu. If she says it she can be arrested for offering it, whereas if you say it and are LE it is entrapment.
Heres what I do.(Only if there is a good possibility that sex in some form is offered, definitely not at an RMT)
On the flip I put my hand on her waist, and if there is no objection let it slide to her butt. That usually breaks the ice. Then I will ask for a happy ending, if she says ok I will ask if anything else is available.

 

[cherryblossoms]

Thanks to everyone who replied to the thread. I think there were a number of subtle hints that extras were offered, but I may have seemed too straight and narrow. What was said about entrapment does make sense, especially in areas that don't have a lot of that kind of service available. I mean I did not look like a cop but I probably seemed a bit out of the ordinary too. If I ever decide to go back I will be slightly less shy. What you said about LE makes a lot of sense. In an area where they are virtually the only ones there they would probably be much more paranoid.

 

[sonicfan]

Also, don't be shy...you are there for a good time so don't let afraid to take the initiative! I would say every massage place that is not an RMT has extra's available.

 

[bubblegum36291]

I'd love to hear if guys here would beg to differ. I dont think every non-RMT has extras. Certain kinds of places, sure. But all? I dont know.

 

[meowglitter]

Always, otherwise whats the point? I consider a hand job an extra, a minimal extra but an extra at that.

 

[MommyTrujillo]

You cant really be saying that every single place one can get a massage, if they arent an RMT they at a minimum give a hj. that's impossible!!!

 

[Ray <3]

Yes thats what I am really saying. If I want a massage I go to an RMT. If I want a happy ending I go to an MP. If I'm lucky I get a decent massage at the MP in addition to the happy ending.
Now I have been to a couple of MPs in the US where the MPA will take off her clothes but the client has to relieve himself.
So yeah-
RMT = massage.
Other massage places = sexual activity of varying degrees.
No exceptions that I am aware of.

 

[archnew2]

Thats crazy talk!! You can find any day spa, gym, hotel, etc offering massage services that arent only RMT. There are legitimate Holistic and Esthetic massages available all over the city!! So no, not everywhere u can get a massage offers extras. There are countless posts about places where guys dont get a happy ending! Granted, a massageplanet.netite isnt happy about that, but still...point being there are legit massages out there that arent RMT that follow the rules.

 

[yellowstar171]

Agred. Here is a link to one recent such situation:

http://www.massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=218184&highlight=Towel

Another:

http://www.massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=207907&highlight=Tui

There are many others, I believe the Tui na on Yonge street was similar.

 

[i H.S.P.]

From what I understand if a day spa, gym or hotel is offering massage then the masseuse has to be licensed, am I wrong? Maybe we are talking about different things.

 

[Elliott N]

We are all licenced!! Body Rubbers, Holistic Practitioners, Esthicians, RMT's, etc.

 

[Terrex C]

OK, you're right. I guess what I am trying to say -
if I am in a gym and get a massage from some surley 250 pound guy,
or if I get a massage in a spa that offers mud packs and salt rubs,
or if I am in a hotel and am using a hotel provided masseuse,
or if my health insurance is paying for any part of the massage
I wouldn't even think about getting extras.
But,
If I go to a massage parlor or an independent masseuse where its obvious the massage isn't really that professional or the attendents are attractive or dressed provocatively, or there is nudity or its an Asian Massage Parlor then I absolutely expect extras.

Some true examples: my first massage experience was outside an Army Base in the south in 1969. Attractive women (all wearing lab coats) would give a very quick back rub and a hand job for a basic fee. There was no nudity and no touching (at least I think, I did not have the sense to ask or to even know about possible extras.) The key here was that they were all very attractive. They always asked if we wanted a "manual relief."

In England I went for a "naturist massage" The woman had a massage table in a room in her house where she lived with her husband. She gave me a brief interview explaining that there was nothing sexual going on that the whole point of both being nude was to equalize us. Then after the massage started she told me not to be embarassed if I got excited, and if I did would I like her to resolve the problem. I said yes and then there were several available extras. The nudity here was the key. It reminded me of a girl I once knew who whould always say, "If I'm going to be naked, I might just as well fuck."

In Florida several years ago the key words in the advertising were "stress relief." That always indicated something was available. I remember going to a MP near Clearwater, very strange advertising all the ads said were "Take a chance, relaxation and stress relief." The woman was in her 40's and actually did the massage wearing latex gloves. I was thinking it was a straight place until I realized she was wearing a mini shirt and kept rubbing my arm with her thighs. Once I put my hand on her butt she felt free to give me a hj.(with the gloves on)

So yeah, you are right that there are places other than a RMT that dont give extras. I also just found out that there are CMT's, Certified Massage Therapists that are a little lower on the training scale than RMT's, that also are concerned about maintaining their license. But I think that using the criteria above one will pretty much know if they are going to get whacked or not.

 

[BLam]

ok, I should have known the place that I went to had them... It was open till 3am or something like that, and I got to choose the attendent, all of the attendants were female... the door for the massage room had a lock on the inside. the girl may have implied that extras were available, but would not say it outright (which I was unaccustomed to). Also she gave me a massage that would rival that of a RMT. I feel kind of bad but she did get a $10 tip anyway, since she never did get me the change from the 20s I paid for my massage.
Anyway, I suppose any place that has the characteristics I described should be assumed to offer extras. I suppose they let you know how much the extras cost after you cross the line that allows them the entrapment defence in the event that your LE.

 

[Enticing_Raspberry]

Were you hoping for a guy?

 

[Aisling M]

I am so glad to hear that they were all females! And, hopefully, you weren't looking for male ones there

 

[Carton Size]

bebe, you are fast man!