NCBI just admitted what we all know is true

[Ursus]

National Center for Biotechnology Information Study Conclusion:

The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death. Governments, policy makers and health organizations should utilize prosper and scientific evidence-based approach with respect to wearing facemasks, when the latter is considered as preventive intervention for public health.

NCBI posts Standford study that concludes face masks DO NOT PREVENT Covid transmission.
Also, that masks cause more health harm than good.

Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis

Many countries across the globe utilized medical and non-medical facemasks as non-pharmaceutical intervention for reducing the transmission and infectivity of coronavirus disease-2019 (COVID-19). Although, scientific evidence supporting facemasks’ ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Useful Idiot will curled up in a ball tonight, crying about not being able to wear his mask.

 

[Blue.eyes.white.dragon]

Dude you still very got back to me. After are capitalism debate.

 

[asiabuffet]

I read the article. I should mention that I am in health care and am trained to read these articles and dissect them intimately. This would normally take days to do but I will give you a quick highlight on how this article is flawed and weak. You need to read the source references. For example. Take this paragraph:

A meta-analysis among health care workers found that compared to no masks, surgical mask and N95 respirators were not effective against transmission of viral infections or influenza-like illness based on six RCTs [28]. Using separate analysis of 23 observational studies, this meta-analysis found no protective effect of medical mask or N95 respirators against SARS virus [28]. A recent systematic review of 39 studies including 33,867 participants in community settings (self-report illness), found no difference between N95 respirators versus surgical masks and surgical mask versus no masks in the risk for developing influenza or influenza-like illness, suggesting their ineffectiveness of blocking viral transmissions in community settings (29).

now go ahead and read the references 28 and 29. From reference 29:

“Evidence on mask effectiveness for respiratory infection prevention is stronger in health care than community settings. N95 respirators might reduce SARS-CoV-1 risk versus surgical masks in health care settings, but applicability to SARS-CoV-2 is uncertain.”

The article you posted is manipulating the references to make its own points. It’s worth less than the computer people are reading it on. I can go on but it’s not worth my time continuing to read and disassemble the entire article. Still you can believe what you want to believe. But any educated medical expert who reads these articles on a daily basis can figure out it’s garbage filled with bias and false conclusions.

 

[PinkPussy]

I read the article. I should mention that I am in health care and am trained to read these articles and dissect them intimately. This would normally take days to do but I will give you a quick highlight on how this article is flawed and weak. You need to read the source references. For example. Take this paragraph:

A meta-analysis among health care workers found that compared to no masks, surgical mask and N95 respirators were not effective against transmission of viral infections or influenza-like illness based on six RCTs [28]. Using separate analysis of 23 observational studies, this meta-analysis found no protective effect of medical mask or N95 respirators against SARS virus [28]. A recent systematic review of 39 studies including 33,867 participants in community settings (self-report illness), found no difference between N95 respirators versus surgical masks and surgical mask versus no masks in the risk for developing influenza or influenza-like illness, suggesting their ineffectiveness of blocking viral transmissions in community settings (29).

now go ahead and read the references 28 and 29. From reference 29:

“Evidence on mask effectiveness for respiratory infection prevention is stronger in health care than community settings. N95 respirators might reduce SARS-CoV-1 risk versus surgical masks in health care settings, but applicability to SARS-CoV-2 is uncertain.”

The article you posted is manipulating the references to make its own points. It’s worth less than the computer people are reading it on. I can go on but it’s not worth my time continuing to read and disassemble the entire article. Still you can believe what you want to believe. But any educated medical expert who reads these articles on a daily basis can figure out it’s garbage filled with bias and false conclusions.

What are your thoughts on the covid vaccine?

 

[sexpuppy]

Those anti-maskers are retards. If they believe that surgical masks won't protect them, then the logical next step should be get into something like a full biohazard suit. But instead their logical next step is .. oh well since these masks aren't useful then let's do nothing. Funny enough, the actual link in that article that references it actually reaches the exact opposite conclusion. Respiratory virus shedding in exhaled breath and efficacy of face masks - PubMed

The scientific mechanism why mask works is pretty simple. Even though the virus diameter is order of magnitude smaller than the trapping diameter of the mask material, high concentration of virus are carried on water droplets who can be easily trapped by masks. This ain't rocket science folks.

But anyway, it doesn't really matter to anti-maskers. Honestly they should all organize a group visit to covid patients without mask and prove their point. I bet they like to lick public toilet as well.

 

[asiabuffet]

What are your thoughts on the covid vaccine?

that is a long discussion. I’m not gonna be Dr. Bogosh on CP24 and tell you you need to get it to crush the curve. I follow the evidence and the best evidence we have says they are “safe”. The mRNA vaccines are cutting edge. The tech is so advanced they are using it against HIV. The short term side effects can all be found online. They are very rare and range from fainting, to feeling sick for days to head aches. But no one has reportedly died from Pfizer or Moderna and certainty not from blood clots.
The Astra and J&J, well, be glad you got transparency in the media. The fact you know about the blood clots shows how transparent the forces at work are. Still, the experts are correct that the risks are 1 in a million and it’s better to get it than no vaccine at all.
People ask me about long term side effects. The truth is we don’t know. But based on studies we go on the data that there are generally NO long term side effects. Unless you believe vaccines cause Autism. If you do then don’t bother replying. No evidence for any of that. People say there is a hypothetical back door for the vaccine to change your DNA. I’ve read those hypothesis also and it’s a total fantasy. The Astra vaccine is like a repackaged flu virus. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. It’s just older tech. I got the Pfizer, which is the Ferrari of vaccines. Still, if you need a car, better settle for a Honda than walking home.

Finally, last argument I get is Do I really need the vaccine if the chances of me dying is less than 1%. The answer is NO. YOU don’t need the vaccine. But the population and herd does. By getting vaccinated you protect yourself and help stop the vector for transmission. You may have heard you can still carry and transmit the virus even if vaccinated. This is true to a degree. The vaccine helps reduce symptoms and viral load. The virus doesn’t replicate as much and is much less virulent when you got the vaccine. Hence getting the vaccine still helps reduce transmission.

Saying all this, it is your decision. I can only answer your question to the best of my ability. Don’t read any conspiracy theories online. I read them for fun and usually laugh myself to sleep every night. Uneducated people thinking they are doctors and can save society by acting disobedient. Still, it’s a free country and I respect that.

 

[MrBnH]

that is a long discussion. I’m not gonna be Dr. Bogosh on CP24 and tell you you need to get it to crush the curve. I follow the evidence and the best evidence we have says they are “safe”. The mRNA vaccines are cutting edge. The tech is so advanced they are using it against HIV. The short term side effects can all be found online. They are very rare and range from fainting, to feeling sick for days to head aches. But no one has reportedly died from Pfizer or Moderna and certainty not from blood clots.
The Astra and J&J, well, be glad you got transparency in the media. The fact you know about the blood clots shows how transparent the forces at work are. Still, the experts are correct that the risks are 1 in a million and it’s better to get it than no vaccine at all.
People ask me about long term side effects. The truth is we don’t know. But based on studies we go on the data that there are generally NO long term side effects. Unless you believe vaccines cause Autism. If you do then don’t bother replying. No evidence for any of that. People say there is a hypothetical back door for the vaccine to change your DNA. I’ve read those hypothesis also and it’s a total fantasy. The Astra vaccine is like a repackaged flu virus. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. It’s just older tech. I got the Pfizer, which is the Ferrari of vaccines. Still, if you need a car, better settle for a Honda than walking home.

Finally, last argument I get is Do I really need the vaccine if the chances of me dying is less than 1%. The answer is NO. YOU don’t need the vaccine. But the population and herd does. By getting vaccinated you protect yourself and help stop the vector for transmission. You may have heard you can still carry and transmit the virus even if vaccinated. This is true to a degree. The vaccine helps reduce symptoms and viral load. The virus doesn’t replicate as much and is much less virulent when you got the vaccine. Hence getting the vaccine still helps reduce transmission.

Saying all this, it is your decision. I can only answer your question to the best of my ability. Don’t read any conspiracy theories online. I read them for fun and usually laugh myself to sleep every night. Uneducated people thinking they are doctors and can save society by acting disobedient. Still, it’s a free country and I respect that.

Well said and the one thing that a lot are forgetting is that the virus is one of the most "perfect" organisms on the planet and the longer it survives in the "herd", the more chance it has to mutate into something that we can't control with a vaccine, so let's spend the tough 8-12 weeks of lockdown and masks and vaccinations and get it done, so we can get back to normal. Everyone who does not believe that Covid is bad, they need your help in the hospitals......

 

[Sybarite]

that is a long discussion. I’m not gonna be Dr. Bogosh on CP24 and tell you you need to get it to crush the curve. I follow the evidence and the best evidence we have says they are “safe”. The mRNA vaccines are cutting edge. The tech is so advanced they are using it against HIV. The short term side effects can all be found online. They are very rare and range from fainting, to feeling sick for days to head aches. But no one has reportedly died from Pfizer or Moderna and certainty not from blood clots.
The Astra and J&J, well, be glad you got transparency in the media. The fact you know about the blood clots shows how transparent the forces at work are. Still, the experts are correct that the risks are 1 in a million and it’s better to get it than no vaccine at all.
People ask me about long term side effects. The truth is we don’t know. But based on studies we go on the data that there are generally NO long term side effects. Unless you believe vaccines cause Autism. If you do then don’t bother replying. No evidence for any of that. People say there is a hypothetical back door for the vaccine to change your DNA. I’ve read those hypothesis also and it’s a total fantasy. The Astra vaccine is like a repackaged flu virus. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. It’s just older tech. I got the Pfizer, which is the Ferrari of vaccines. Still, if you need a car, better settle for a Honda than walking home.

Finally, last argument I get is Do I really need the vaccine if the chances of me dying is less than 1%. The answer is NO. YOU don’t need the vaccine. But the population and herd does. By getting vaccinated you protect yourself and help stop the vector for transmission. You may have heard you can still carry and transmit the virus even if vaccinated. This is true to a degree. The vaccine helps reduce symptoms and viral load. The virus doesn’t replicate as much and is much less virulent when you got the vaccine. Hence getting the vaccine still helps reduce transmission.

Saying all this, it is your decision. I can only answer your question to the best of my ability. Don’t read any conspiracy theories online. I read them for fun and usually laugh myself to sleep every night. Uneducated people thinking they are doctors and can save society by acting disobedient. Still, it’s a free country and I respect that.

Great post thank you!

 

[Ursus]

I read the article. I should mention that I am in health care and am trained to read these articles and dissect them intimately. This would normally take days to do but I will give you a quick highlight on how this article is flawed and weak. You need to read the source references. For example. Take this paragraph:

A meta-analysis among health care workers found that compared to no masks, surgical mask and N95 respirators were not effective against transmission of viral infections or influenza-like illness based on six RCTs [28]. Using separate analysis of 23 observational studies, this meta-analysis found no protective effect of medical mask or N95 respirators against SARS virus [28]. A recent systematic review of 39 studies including 33,867 participants in community settings (self-report illness), found no difference between N95 respirators versus surgical masks and surgical mask versus no masks in the risk for developing influenza or influenza-like illness, suggesting their ineffectiveness of blocking viral transmissions in community settings (29).

now go ahead and read the references 28 and 29. From reference 29:

“Evidence on mask effectiveness for respiratory infection prevention is stronger in health care than community settings. N95 respirators might reduce SARS-CoV-1 risk versus surgical masks in health care settings, but applicability to SARS-CoV-2 is uncertain.”

The article you posted is manipulating the references to make its own points. It’s worth less than the computer people are reading it on. I can go on but it’s not worth my time continuing to read and disassemble the entire article. Still you can believe what you want to believe. But any educated medical expert who reads these articles on a daily basis can figure out it’s garbage filled with bias and false conclusions.

You lie
You aren't in healthcare

Nice try though

'might reduce' means it doesn't.
Uncertain means it isn't what we want it to be.

The mask 'holes' are 1,000 time larger than the size of the virus particles.
It doesn't matter if you are in a hospital setting or not.

There is a good reason that workers in an infectious virus labratory don't wear non-medical or even N95 masks.
They offer no protection against viruses.

The manufacturers don't make claims about protection from Covid because they would be lying and would be sued if they did.

 

[Ursus]

Michigan governor and her staff vacationed in Florida while condemning the Sunshine state for not locking down.

Democrat Governor Gretchen Whitmer Secretly Vacationed to Florida During Michigan's Covid Surge While Telling Michiganders to Stay Home, Avoid Travel | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

Democrat Governor Gretchen Whitmer vacationed to Florida during Michigan’s Covid-19 surge while telling Michiganders to stay home and avoid travel.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Ursus]

Canadian government can't show evidence to support forced lockdown on church in Calgary:

“After 13 months of violating Charter freedoms, the Alberta Government refuses to present evidence in support of lockdowns in Court, and unfortunately the courts have permitted the government to delay facing accountability in regard to Charter violations,” states lawyer John Carpay, President of the Justice Centre.

Court permits Government to avoid producing Dr. Hinshaw’s evidence on lockdowns at May 3 trial of Pastor James Coates | Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms

EDMONTON: The Justice Centre today announced that the trial of Pastor James Coates, of Grace Life Church, will proceed on May 3, 2021 at Provincial Court in Stony Plain, however the Court granted the Government’s request that Pastor Coates not be permitted to challenge the constitutional...

www.jccf.ca

The Canadian government can't show scientific evidence to support lockdowns.
They know if they present such evidence in court, it will be shot down with facts and if the government lies, they can be held liable for damages.
So, they are simply refusing to show the evidence.
In other words, they don't have the evidence.

 

[SumYang_KUM]

Let's put it this way: this is a joke not a lockdown here. Do like Australia, Vietnam, Thailand, etc. Then you will know what a true lockdown is. Start with the county first not a year later.
Sydney has had zero new cases. Australia is laughing after one year. And here we are worst than ever before. Why? because ppl don't know shit about masks, bitching about freedom and vaccine. Well, you are free to die.

 

[Ursus]

Let's put it this way: this is a joke not a lockdown here. Do like Australia, Vietnam, Thailand, etc. Then you will know what a true lockdown is. Start with the county first not a year later.
Sydney has had zero new cases. Australia is laughing after one year. And here we are worst than ever before. Why? because ppl don't know shit about masks, bitching about freedom and vaccine. Well, you are free to die.

I don't think Australian citizens are laughing.

They are talking about fitting citizens with ankle bracelets to monitor their movements when they travel out of the country and return, even if those citizens have already been vaccinated.

That's pure Communism, right there.

 

[SumYang_KUM]

Passports already have chip. Cell phones leave all the traces behind. Using credit cards .... and the list goes on and on.

 

[Ursus]

Passports already have chip. Cell phones leave all the traces behind. Using credit cards .... and the list goes on and on.

Then why the need to use ankle bracelets for vaccinated Australians?

It's about implementing Communist control.

Australia lets the hookers work during the pandemic, but business owners can't open their coffee shops.
Just the same as Toronto.