Need advice for a bad MP experience... not sure what to do...

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Heh guys,

My experience and history with service providers...

I have been reading stuff on this site since last spring and I am pretty inexperienced with service providers. I in total have seen two independent escorts and had a great time with both and left them both a generous tip at the end.

Now for the advice part
I went to my first MP tonight and had a horrible time. I found the MP on CL and it was pretty close to where I live so I decided to go in for a 30 minute hand job. I called ahead and was told just to drop by as they were not busy. I was greeted by a middle aged BBW who had a pretty face and smelled quite nice. I went into the room with her and she told me that for a 30 minute massage that it would cost 40.00. I gave her 40.00 cash and then she left the room for 5 minutes and came back and laughed at me because I was in my boxers. She then told me that I had to get naked. So I did. I went down to my boxers because I was very nervous being in a MP for the first time and I didn't know what standard procedures were. She then asked me exactly what I was looking for and I told just a hand job. She then told me well my services start at 60.00. I then told her that I thought the 40.00 for the room was for the massage. She then told me no, that the 40.00 covers the room rental and that the owner gets all of that money. I then told her I was embarrassed as this was my first time at a MP and that I only brought 75.00 in total with me. She then said well we take debit. I replied and said that I would be honest with her and that I was very nervous of bringing in my wallet because I didn't know who may be going through my pockets so that was why I brought cash. I then told her, well I live pretty close and I will go home bring in the 60.00 extra. She then said well how much extra do you have on you now? I then said 35.00. She then said well I suppose that will do. I said to her are you sure, because I would go home and get the extra money first. She then assured me it was all right. I then got on the table and she rubbed my back with a bit of oil and then told me to turn over. She then told me as I was on my back as she was rubbing my legs up and down and lightly rubbing her finger nails over the tip of my penis that she would need the full amount and that she wanted me to go home after and bring her the extra 25.00. She then tried to up sell me a topless massage for another 20.00. I told her no thanks... I am not into BBW's and I am not much of a breast man. She asked me a few more times and I replied no a few more times. She then started to give me a hand job while pinching my nipples... I then asked her if she would rub my balls instead of her pinching my nipples and she said sure. As she was stroking me I asked her if she could lightly hit my balls at the same time. She complied and did about 10s of dirty talk... then she immediately kept asking me if I was close. I was very close to finishing until she started asking me if I was close. She sighed a few times and asked again if I was close. I felt so rushed and anxious to perform that the opposite happened... I lost the closeness as I was feeling really rushed. She then told me to stroke myself while she rubbed my balls. I took over and she still kept on saying are you close are you close. She then left me started walking around and started cleaning the room. She then looked at me and said well that is enough. I looked at my watch and I was in there for a total of 20 minutes. I thought 30 minutes meant 30 minutes? The 20 minutes was actually about 10 minutes of back massage and and hand job as her disappearance out of the room for 5 minutes at the beginning and the negotiations and me offering to come back took about another 5 minutes or so. I was there at 8:30PM in the room, she left and came back at 8:35PM, negotiated for 5 minutes and then she told me I was done at 8:50PM.

I didn't say anything, I was thinking whatever.... and that I would not go back there. She then said, you need to pay me the other 35.00 now and you have to leave your cell phone as collateral until I came back and paid her the rest. I gave her the 35.00 and told her that I would give her the other 25.00, but I was not leaving my cell phone with her. I am a teacher by profession and I have all my personal contacts, emails, work numbers, and other sensitive information on my phone. I told her she would have to trust me. She then insisted that I leave my phone and I told her no... she yet insisted again and started to get aggressive. I told her that I would still pay her but that I would never come back there again. I told her I felt rushed and that the 30 minute massage we agreed on was only 10 minutes and that I was only there in total for 20 minutes. She then said that when I asked her to massage and squeeze my balls that is considered kink and that is why it was ending early. I then told her well I wish you would have told me that when before hand. I then told her I was going to write a review on my experience there and she then got really mad. She threatened me by saying that she would remember what I looked like and that she would phone every mp out there and get me banned. She finally moved outside the door and swore and yelled at me on my way out.

I am not sure what to do here. Part of me is feeling like, a deal is a deal and I should go back and pay her the 25.00 that I agreed on. At the same time, I am scared to go back there and I don't like how I was treated and I didn't like the service and she didn't keep her part of our deal. Part of it was my fault because being my first time at a MP, I really thought the advertised price of 40.00 was for a hand job. I offered to leave immediately more than once to go and get the extra 25.00 and come back, even before we started. I was also serious about returning with the money until she got nasty. Also, at the very end when I mentioned to her that I would leave and come back before we started she said to me, you wouldn't have come back and I wanted the money. Little, does she know I would have came back with it before we started.

So my question for experienced guys is what should I do? Should I go back and pay her the 25.00??? I am honestly torn. 25.00 to me is pocket change and very insignificant, so it is definitely not about the money. Please give me some advice. I left the name of the place and the girl out of here because I am not sure if it is right to post that information. All I know is I would never ever go back there.

Thanks for any advice that you guys can give me.

Mark

Ps... I accidently posted this first in the Edmonton review thread... this happened in Calgary.
 
Wow:did you smell her when you met her? Wow!$35? It sounds like she agreed to $35, so she should stick with it.She will get you banned from MPs? hahahahahahahh ha ha ha ha ha ha hahah aha ha ha hahahahahahaha ah aha hahaha ha ha ha haha snort!Leave your cellphone? Fuck that!Pay her $25 more? No. You have suffered enough.
You just left out one detail: the name of the place.

I don't go to MPs since dear Selina moved on, but I am sure there are good ones and you should probably pick the MP for the service and not for the handy location. Handy? Get it!
 
You must be a very naive guy.

You are not going for a hand job. You are going for a massage and maybe some extras.
 
I am going to stick with well reviewed escorts so I know what I am getting. No more MP in the future. I will post the name of the place and girl only if Stud says it is okay. I have a lot of respect for the guy after reading many of his posts and I don't want to offend anyone on this board.
 
rather simple solution

fuhgeddaboudit

not worth your time or effort after that bs

But, please share the name will ya?
 
Dude its a Review Board saying the name is okay its called SHARING!!!!
 
After reading several requests on the name of the place, I decided to let everyone know where it is as I found it on Craigs List. The girl I saw was not Rihanna, the name she went by is Lexis.

"please call Rihanna i will give you a good massage

incall / outcall 3425 26ave sw


403 242 9700 403 470 6555"

http://calgary.en.craigslist.ca/ers/1513476400.html

Lexis told me at the beginning of the massage that she also does it out of her home or outcalls as well and that she has cheaper rates available that way as she is doing it independent of the MP that she is working at.

Here is Lexis's ad:

"GOOD AFTERNOON GENTLEMEN,

COME IN FROM THE SITY STRESSES, AND HAVE A FANTASTIC RELAXING MASSAGE WITH ME.

~ GREAT RATES!!!!!
~ HOT OIL RELAXATION MASSAGE
~ THERAPUTIC MASSAGE AVAILABLE
~ BODY SCRUBS (EXFOLIATION FOR THE SKIN)
~ HOT SHOWERS
~ FRESH & HOT TOWELETTS IN EACH ROOM
~ FANTASTIC LOCATION ( KILLARNEY AREA OF THE CITY)
~ FREE PARKING IN FRONT AND SIDE OF BUILDING
~ 10 MINS FROM THE DOWNTOWN CORE.
~ FREINDLY, RELAXED, AND UNRUSHED SERVICE.

CALL ME TO BOOK YOUR APPOINTMENT: 403-616-2039 ( PLEASE NO TEXTING, THANKYOU)

XOXO, LEXIS"

http://calgary.en.craigslist.ca/ers/1513236860.html
 
Sorry to hear about your experience Mah. I would not pay the extra especially after the verbal abuse you took while leaving. Thanks for posting the name. That helps everyone.

As for the fees, the 40 is for the room fee and the "massage" and everything else is always an upsell. The only MP I know of that includes that stuff in the up-front price is Anida Massage, which, by the way, I highly recommend.

The other ladies that have a great base rate, happy-ending-included non-FS price are Mia and Victoria Blue and they both give great massages as well.

I look forward to reading a positive experience next time around.

Stud.
 
Is that really the way MP's are now? I have not been to one in a while as I have been satisfied with the local agencies, however my experience always was that the $40.00 was for the room and the massage and the extras were paid later. I never recall having to pay for the room, then he massage and then the extras.
 
I had the same issues when I first tried a Massage Service. The issue I had was I didn't bring enough money, and I also do not bring my wallet with me to the locale' for reasons you have mentioned.

Anyways it was actually OSHI, she was as nice now as she was then. I did promise her that I had the money in my car and It would take me 10 minutes to get it. Anyways she obliged quite readily! Ran to the car and came back with the remainder! No problems what so ever!

Hopefully this little mishap won't deter you from other massage services, they are actually pretty fun and the massages from my experience is well worth it!

And I don't think you should go back and pay the $25.00, LOL your too nice!
 
Oshi is an awesome lady
and she is able to convince you to spend extra, because those new additions feel great on a cock and body

mmmm
should call her
been toooooooo long
 
I agree that I would not return to this establishment, however if you were disappointed it doesn't hurt to post the name of the place. This is the nice thing about massageplanet if a person is honest we will all respect his reviews. Without a name of the place many of us will most likely also have the same bad experience.

Anyways, most of us at one time in our life have felt your pain having gone through the same expereince.
 
Yeah- Oshi's got a certain "Je Ne Sais Quoi" about her and her techniques are excellent.
I know, I know, facilities are somewhat suspect, but she has been quite innovative in her service and techniques and for first timers, she certainly can put one at ease.

Been too long for me as well. She's been through a lot recently but is still wonderfully upbeat and engaging.
 
Ouch Mah127 ... thanks for TOFFT.

Never been to a MP in Calgary as I hear they're pretty much awful, which sucks since I'm sure there's some genuine talent.

I guess that's a lesson to everyone, bring only what you're willing to give (within reason of course!) and don't offer to get more.
 
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    Happy Sunday!!๐Ÿ’œโŽShangri-la Spa & SL WestโŽ ๐Ÿ’– your best destination for luxury Asian massages in GTA ๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakville. 9 stunning Girls from China, Hong Kong, Japan & Korea โ€” Coco, Yoyo, Tina, Eva, JPN Yui, Suki, 36D busty Julie, Sophia & Tiffany โ€” ready to spoil you silly โœจ Table Shower special on now! ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Summon Us: ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ ๐Ÿ’ฐLet the fun times roll, baby!๐Ÿ™Œ
  29. Anonymous Mask:
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  30. starartwork:
    Where does Indian SARIKA of Lily Spa work now?
  31. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  32. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  33. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  34. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietn
  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบOpen Sunday Wonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800.very big boost Joey and Sunny working today,Joey is sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice Sunny can provide deep tissue massage,she got a lot experience,come see them today,welcome to walk in๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ‘™much try๐Ÿท๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  36. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด:[/color] Hot Busty BLONDE Girl today at Alice Spa: ELLA (12pm-9pm): is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. Alice Spa has DEBIT PAYMENT available now! Plenty of free parking. Front and back entrance. ALICE SPA, 4915 Steeles Ave. E,
  37. xodyhard:
    Anyone know tracy from forever spa,does anyone where she working aside in forever spa?
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธYoYo๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธHellen Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. ASPA:
    ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL.[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer & Mia. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAmy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธTiffanyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Jessica ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  44. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, PREET, KIRAN, ANNA, NISHA, SALMA, SABHA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  45. Applover:
    This chat is something. So no one believes Markkk
  46. Applover:
    This chat is something
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CARA & JOLIE. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Helen๐ŸฅฐBrand new very young university student from Hong Kong. Great massage skills with a wild flirtatious side willing to tease and please to bring you to satisfaction. Perky natural 34C breasts perfect for kissing and body slide
  49. hiyamickey:
    Reinella wellness will have 6 girls working, young petite Japanese girl Amanda, Queenie, Lucky, Jenny, Vanessa, Ella @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey