new in BC and already dismayed

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just moved form ontario (any other hobbyists who've been in both provinces will already know my story). went to a place on broadway last week. tried to get info fromt he older lady working the desk. no real info given - except base price (already shown on a sign on the desk anyway). apparently customers are not allowed to see the girls before deciding (i at least checked that the old lady wasn't going to be the one to do it - but i got no guarantees that it wouldn't be someone the same age).
the girl was slim, cute, clean and sexy looking (told me she was very 'new', japanese/chinese and experienced in shiatsu - all of which i highly doubted). just got a fairly lame massage with not enough oil.
she was a bit vague in quoting prices (seemed to want to see how much i was willing to spend before agreeing to anything), but it seemed like HLs and BJs went for $50 each - and it also seemed like there was no guarante she would even take off her top to do those. she as much as said that a minimum $20 tip was manditory. so, here i would need to pay a minimum of $110 for a HJ that goes for about half that in ontario - but without any nudity!

being able to get a nude "full-body" massage from a sexy girl whenever you want it is great, but unless someone can recommend any place to reliably get at least a massage and HJ (nude or not) in vancouver for say, $65 max, i'll not be continuing with this hobby here on the west coast.
i can go out to a bar and spend less than $110 on drinks and quite possibly end up with a lot more than these places are providing, socialize while i'm at it, and not get the feeling that i'm being fucked up the ass the whole time.

all sincere comments, criticisms and advice welcome.

[i'm a new member. this is the first thread for me to start on eforum.xxx.]
[if my style of expressing $ is a local no-no, someone please tell me and i'll go back to edit this post.]
 
Welcome to Vancouver

Having to travel to TO and Montreal for business and living in Vancouver, I completely understand what you are talking about. In my experience, what passes for exceptional service in Vancouver is somewhat the norm back east.

That said, there are some great amp's, mp's and sp's that provide great service, great attitude at an affordable rate for the average person available in Vancovuer. For example, there are many places on Broadway that unfortunatley specialize in "your experience" however, had you lucked into going to Broadway Body Care, you would very likely have gotten great service at TO "rates". I have never had a bad experience there.

Take care and good luck
 
The only problem is it sounds like he's not looking for F/S; so a place like BBC would be a waste of money at the all-inclusive rate.
YVR Dude, welcome to the board. I hobbied in TO almost exclusively for 6 years. At the time I started, the SP scene was much better there than here, but places like BBC and Great Pharoah have changed my opinion. (Once again, I'm talking from a F/S standpoint).
 
Maria gives a good massage on a massage table (ask for the hot stone treatment!!) and though she said on my first visit that she does not do HJs, it wasn't hard to persuade her (with no upsell). Also after a bit of gentle persuading she let me touch her breasts (only through clothing or with my hand under her shirt the first time, but she has let me have more access since then). In my almost 10 visits, she has never gone topless. She also lets me caress her butt (mmm) through and eventually under her clothing but won't take anything off. But just her butt, I've never tried for anything more intimate. The first time there wasn't much teasing but when she carressed my butt and lower legs and I moaned appreciatively and (I think) gently asked for more of that, she did that.

If like me, you have a slow trigger, she may complain of a sore hand and you may have to finish yourself off, but she'll give it a very good effort.

She is an older lady (45-50?), Polish I think. But I think her breasts and butt are really quite nice. She doesn't talk much (personally I wish she'd talk more but I gather many of you would rather be fed to the lions than talk to the SP).

Her rates are $40 for 30 minutes, $60 for the hour. I usually go for 90 minutes for $100 but that's just me. I usually give her a $20 tip because I really enjoy her service and think that her rates are insanely low (I know many eforum.xxxites think that is sacriledge, but I think they are just cheap). I have my doubts that you'll get as far as a handjob from a 30 minute first time visit.

She provides a great service for very little money (relative to the rest of the market) so please treat her nicely and take it slow and easy. Whatever you do, DO NOT ask for more than a massage over the phone. She apparently took it very badly when someone did that previously.

Her number is (604) 681-8369. She is in Yaletown (south east side of downtown Vancouver).

One last piece of advice. If it is a hot and sunny day, the massage area may be very hot especially in the later afternoon or evening. Oh, and the shower in the clean bathroom works great but for some reason she always forgets to give me a towel until I ask.
 
You seeming to find most expensive and least service places to start your time in this province. some of the trend here is to be way more expensive than it need to be so ignore those places. lots and lots of great deals in Victoria and Vancouver if you willing to look around. I finding eforum.xxx slowly good for that but many discussed here on expensive side. discuss on other places to find better prices.
 
I think it is a matter of knowing the ropes in each city. I have been to TO and have been extremely frustrated. I got to a MP. The girls won't discuss price or services. You are expected to just leave a tip on the table and see what you get for it. How much do you tip??? They won't talk about it. I imagine someone knowing what prices are would ahve no trouble, but I just kept getting pissed off.
 
Yes, the poon scene in Toronto and especially Montreal (pooner heaven!) is much better (and rates too) compared to Vancouver.
 
Let's be honest...

The girls in Montreal are much much better looking, than Vancouver just to begin with, and as far as service goes, Van sucks.

Unfortunately, the majority of Vancouver SP's are over-priced, and it's probably due to the insane Housing market here, so these old morons with million dollar homes, that they paid 80k for 25 yrs ago, don't mind spending 300 to 400 on lame girls.

Maria is highly recommended for a massage as per above...
 
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    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Helen🥰Brand new very young university student from Hong Kong. Great massage skills with a wild flirtatious side willing to tease and please to bring you to satisfaction. Perky natural 34C breasts perfect for kissing and body slide
  45. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: ANA, LANA & SHAYLA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5’1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. LANA is a slim & sexy Indian girl. SHAYLA is a very sexy Vietnamese lady, slim and beautiful
  46. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 8 hot brown girls today 🌸 ASHA, MALIYA, PEET, NISHA, ANNA, DIYA, MIMI 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa ♨️♨️♨️table shower 👍👍👍👍👍body scrub🌹🌹🌹🌹5124 Dundas W Etobicoke ☎️416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Jessica 😘can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  48. See You Health Center:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type Vietnamese School Girl Lin Very Young, Petite
Vietnamese Student
With Spicy Slim Body
5’ 1”, 100 lbs Blonde Hair
Great BBJ, CIM Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples ☎️416-988-2950
  49. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl
GFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl ☎️647- 446-0886
  50. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek : For Sunday November 17, 2024, our attendants will be Ada 🥰, Cici 😍, Lucy ❤️, Ivy 😘 and Christina 🔥 We have a great lineup for tomorrow! Call 905-479-6668 to book!
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