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This is a continuation of a thread that began at http://www.phuket-info.com/forums/m...rt-patong-march-26-april-3-2010-part-1-a.html
This report shares some follow-up information that I hope will be beneficial to incoming first-timers, and maybe entertaining to experienced BMs. Some of you may remember a few years ago, a young American man with a lifelong heartfelt affinity for bears, who went to Alaska to live with Grizzlies. At first everyone thought he was just plain nuts, but after a few seasons even career wildlife biologists/behaviorists begrudgingly admitted he was making discoveries beyond their wildest dreams, and the local Native Americans coined a name for him; translating to something like Grizzly Shaman. Of course he eventually disappeared, with very little doubt as to what had inevitably occurred. The same fate may be in store for me, which makes it all the more important I bring you up to date while I can…
I’m going to assume you’re familiar with the Roller Coaster saga related in my previous 5 installments: hinting that I might sponsor a BG, eventually being convinced not to; initially seduced by the innocence of BGs then having to face that some are evil incarnate – while having to maintain the possibility that others (possibly including mine) are everything they seem to be. I finally found my own balance and I am sending money, but please understand this, it amounts to a fraction of a percent of my disposable income, and I know to the depth of my bones that I am not in love with the girl: I’m not in imminent danger (Hah!). Besides that, I genuinely like her, and we’re in touch one way or another practically every day. Consider too that I’m a writer, which automatically means that I’m a little Left o’ Center to begin with, and the idea of following a situation just to see where it goes is a fairly compelling proposition to me. In fact, I would have to say this situation continues to be one of the more stimulating circumstances I have ever experienced, and its forcing me to challenge social assumptions and self-perceptions that I might never otherwise have had a chance to explore. So swallow hard and try to live with it. This is emphatically not to discourage your comments! To the contrary, I’m posting this deliberately under Nightlife so you can let loose with whatever you want. Just don’t think you need to (or can) save me. I’m in this until I decide I’ve gotten what I want/need out of it (which I’m trying to figure out in parallel).
Lets cut to the chase: She was having some problems sending me photos. Lacking the skills to solve the problem, she sent me the password to her email account so I could view the photo albums on her home page. Nice pictures, but I had read a thread at some point where another BG had done this and the BM had full access to her entire e-mail history. I considered the ethics of the situation, concluded that neither of us could claim the moral high ground, and took the plunge. Just one week before I arrived in Patong, there ended a month-long thread where she was angling for a Visa to England. Apparently she never got the guy’s phone number (despite asking) and the whole thing just died out after about a dozen e-mails. She tried to put the bite on him for 70,000B at one point, but he didn’t even acknowledge it. Before that, there was brief correspondence with another guy, only a couple of messages. “Yeah, I’d like to see you again too. I’ll let you know if I’m in town.” I’ve also noted that my own messages are now there for the next guy to read. You might want to think about that before you give a BG your e-mail address.
She had previously told me that she’d been in Patong for 7 months. I found the e-mail account dated back about 9, and interestingly enough found her enrollment confirmations at that time in thailovelinks.com and thaisoulmates.com, both with passwords. The first has been inactivated, and the second looks like it was never completed (doesn’t have a photo). Let this be a warning to anyone on these websites that thinks they are only used by “Good Girls.” She’s on Twitter too – God help us! Maybe the decision had already been made to go to Patong and the websites were a Hail Mary, hoping she wouldn’t have to go. There was some other information on there that I’m still trying to put in perspective. She claimed to have a vocational college education and to speak Japanese. In earlier conversations she had told me about trips to Singapore and elsewhere, and having now seen photos of her home/neighborhood, it’s clear that she’s been raised under very favorable circumstances. Mum and Dad clearly don’t need money, as she’s told me a couple of times. The hardest thing for me to get my head around at the moment is why a girl like this would become a BG? I can only guess some cultural thing that I’m not yet aware of.
It has also become clear that her English proficiency is far higher than I initially thought. It only comes out when she really needs it, but its there. Makes me wonder how many other BGs understand a lot more than they let on.
Anyway, we’ve been talking about her going to Nursing School (this fits with her previous education). She’s been in touch with several, gotten a lot of information, which she’s shared with me, asking for my opinion, and blessing. She sent me the web address for the best candidate school (in BKK). 6-month program, and the girls have to stay in a dorm (she always emphasizes that she won’t be going out at night). The school is very clearly legit, and she says she can handle it for only 5000B/month more than I already committed. She got fairly upset when I initially misunderstood and thought she was asking for 10 times that. Honest to God, either there is some real sincerity there, or she is one of the top con artists on the continent. Damn! Could it be both? But even at best, sincere to what end? A nursing degree, especially with some hospital employment, is the golden road to a Work Visa, even to the US, so this may all be just one more indication (warning) that this young lady is far more sophisticated than I ever could have guessed watching her work that bar on Bangla. Neither am I overlooking the persistent question, why would a bright beautiful 23 y.o. want to commit to a 57 y.o. guy, no matter how devilishly handsome (I am, leally!). One thing I can certainly tell you is that I am more and more appreciating the idea that, “What happens in LOS, Stays in LOS.” I can see the entertainment value of the whole thing beginning to wain, to the point where I’m seeing the possibility of reaching a point of indifference about seeing her again, ever. But not yet. There’s gold left yet in this vein and I'm going to see where it leads.
This report shares some follow-up information that I hope will be beneficial to incoming first-timers, and maybe entertaining to experienced BMs. Some of you may remember a few years ago, a young American man with a lifelong heartfelt affinity for bears, who went to Alaska to live with Grizzlies. At first everyone thought he was just plain nuts, but after a few seasons even career wildlife biologists/behaviorists begrudgingly admitted he was making discoveries beyond their wildest dreams, and the local Native Americans coined a name for him; translating to something like Grizzly Shaman. Of course he eventually disappeared, with very little doubt as to what had inevitably occurred. The same fate may be in store for me, which makes it all the more important I bring you up to date while I can…
I’m going to assume you’re familiar with the Roller Coaster saga related in my previous 5 installments: hinting that I might sponsor a BG, eventually being convinced not to; initially seduced by the innocence of BGs then having to face that some are evil incarnate – while having to maintain the possibility that others (possibly including mine) are everything they seem to be. I finally found my own balance and I am sending money, but please understand this, it amounts to a fraction of a percent of my disposable income, and I know to the depth of my bones that I am not in love with the girl: I’m not in imminent danger (Hah!). Besides that, I genuinely like her, and we’re in touch one way or another practically every day. Consider too that I’m a writer, which automatically means that I’m a little Left o’ Center to begin with, and the idea of following a situation just to see where it goes is a fairly compelling proposition to me. In fact, I would have to say this situation continues to be one of the more stimulating circumstances I have ever experienced, and its forcing me to challenge social assumptions and self-perceptions that I might never otherwise have had a chance to explore. So swallow hard and try to live with it. This is emphatically not to discourage your comments! To the contrary, I’m posting this deliberately under Nightlife so you can let loose with whatever you want. Just don’t think you need to (or can) save me. I’m in this until I decide I’ve gotten what I want/need out of it (which I’m trying to figure out in parallel).
Lets cut to the chase: She was having some problems sending me photos. Lacking the skills to solve the problem, she sent me the password to her email account so I could view the photo albums on her home page. Nice pictures, but I had read a thread at some point where another BG had done this and the BM had full access to her entire e-mail history. I considered the ethics of the situation, concluded that neither of us could claim the moral high ground, and took the plunge. Just one week before I arrived in Patong, there ended a month-long thread where she was angling for a Visa to England. Apparently she never got the guy’s phone number (despite asking) and the whole thing just died out after about a dozen e-mails. She tried to put the bite on him for 70,000B at one point, but he didn’t even acknowledge it. Before that, there was brief correspondence with another guy, only a couple of messages. “Yeah, I’d like to see you again too. I’ll let you know if I’m in town.” I’ve also noted that my own messages are now there for the next guy to read. You might want to think about that before you give a BG your e-mail address.
She had previously told me that she’d been in Patong for 7 months. I found the e-mail account dated back about 9, and interestingly enough found her enrollment confirmations at that time in thailovelinks.com and thaisoulmates.com, both with passwords. The first has been inactivated, and the second looks like it was never completed (doesn’t have a photo). Let this be a warning to anyone on these websites that thinks they are only used by “Good Girls.” She’s on Twitter too – God help us! Maybe the decision had already been made to go to Patong and the websites were a Hail Mary, hoping she wouldn’t have to go. There was some other information on there that I’m still trying to put in perspective. She claimed to have a vocational college education and to speak Japanese. In earlier conversations she had told me about trips to Singapore and elsewhere, and having now seen photos of her home/neighborhood, it’s clear that she’s been raised under very favorable circumstances. Mum and Dad clearly don’t need money, as she’s told me a couple of times. The hardest thing for me to get my head around at the moment is why a girl like this would become a BG? I can only guess some cultural thing that I’m not yet aware of.
It has also become clear that her English proficiency is far higher than I initially thought. It only comes out when she really needs it, but its there. Makes me wonder how many other BGs understand a lot more than they let on.
Anyway, we’ve been talking about her going to Nursing School (this fits with her previous education). She’s been in touch with several, gotten a lot of information, which she’s shared with me, asking for my opinion, and blessing. She sent me the web address for the best candidate school (in BKK). 6-month program, and the girls have to stay in a dorm (she always emphasizes that she won’t be going out at night). The school is very clearly legit, and she says she can handle it for only 5000B/month more than I already committed. She got fairly upset when I initially misunderstood and thought she was asking for 10 times that. Honest to God, either there is some real sincerity there, or she is one of the top con artists on the continent. Damn! Could it be both? But even at best, sincere to what end? A nursing degree, especially with some hospital employment, is the golden road to a Work Visa, even to the US, so this may all be just one more indication (warning) that this young lady is far more sophisticated than I ever could have guessed watching her work that bar on Bangla. Neither am I overlooking the persistent question, why would a bright beautiful 23 y.o. want to commit to a 57 y.o. guy, no matter how devilishly handsome (I am, leally!). One thing I can certainly tell you is that I am more and more appreciating the idea that, “What happens in LOS, Stays in LOS.” I can see the entertainment value of the whole thing beginning to wain, to the point where I’m seeing the possibility of reaching a point of indifference about seeing her again, ever. But not yet. There’s gold left yet in this vein and I'm going to see where it leads.