One step back and two steps forward (or revamping my plan)

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Hi, folks,

The past few days have been quite interesting for me. I wanted to give an update on my plan to enter school for those who may be interested.

It all started with being told that I'd have to alter my plan. My VR counselor will not pay for the LWSB program, but, in hindsight, that's probably a good thing. At the time I was told this, however, I was quite upset - until the reasons and subsequential information was absorbed by my brain.

So, why can't I go to Arkansas?

From my VR counselor's perspective, it boils down to a simple matter of money. Locally, school would cost $8.000.00 + books and supplies. To go to Arkansas, the cost would be a whopping $36,000.00 + books and supplies. Quite a huge financial difference!

I can't argue with that - the price is exponentially higher to go to Arkansas. Besides, even if she wanted to send me there, she would be unable to because of the issues with state law. It will not allow her to make that expense. It has something to do with not being able to spend more on out of state programs than they would spend at the most expensive in-state program, or some such.

After hearing this, I began researching and networking. Boy, the things I've learned!

INVESTIGATING ARKANSAS

I wanted to find out what the h e double hockey sticks was up with the huge difference in cost for the program in Arkansas. I expected the price to be more, but not that drastic, so I use the ring-a-ding-ding machine to call some friends - some very honest and trustworthy friends. What I would learn would shock me.

LWSB pays out less than the amount of the local tution to the contracted school per student. Some of the rest goes toward housing and meals, but, largely, that money goes into a mysterious hiding place that nobody has been able to figure out. I'm not sure I want to know, it would probably just tick me off.

Turns out that most people who complete the training with LWSB do not have a great deal of success finding employment. Most places will not hire them because of the limited curriculum of the LWSB program. Their education is growing stale because they are not working, and, because they are not working, they cannot afford to suppliment their education in the areas where they lack. So, there are people out there with $36,000.00 worth of MT training that are not able to use it. Their VR counselors will not pay for anything beyond the "basic education", certification and licensure fees. Some VR counselors will give in and purchase SOME equipment they need, but most are just sitting with a license, no job and no equipment. They couldn't afford to move forward on their own if they wanted to. Very sad.

One person even told me horrid stories about the conditions they had to live in while there, which were amplified by the way they were treated by staff. Fortunately for them, they have family that's helping them pay for the additional expense to gain further education they need to get hired. They deserve it, after going through the things they told me about.

One person told me that part of the problem with the training was that things were repeated often. She expected things to be repeated some, but not that much. Everyone understood the curriculum that was being repeated. This person said they can only guess that the time spent on repeating things in class was used solely for the purpose of meeting the additional added hours to their base curriculum.

After I learned all this, I was HAPPY to have heard my VR counselor tell me that I would not be able to go there! Very happy, indeed!

REVISITING THE LOCAL OPTION

I started thinking about what I was going to do. I had been given bad reviews of the local school and had a poor experience at their clinic. I knew I couldn't go elsewhere in the state. I just can't afford to relocate for school right now. So, back to the ring-a-ding-ding machine again ...

I called up the people who gave me bad reviews of the school. Last time I let them do most of the talking. I let them have full reign to give a review as they saw fit. This time, I had a different idea. I went into it armed with a questionaire that would make a telephone survey taker green with envy.

After probing them with specific questions, my opinion of their reviews changed drastically. I, now, believe that these people are disgruntled based upon experiences they encountered that they ultimately brought on themselves. There was a lot of whining about financial aspects (late tuition, etc.) and disciplinary actions. I walked away with the opinion that they are ticked off because they got disciplined (for obviously breaking the guidelines/rules of the school) or because the school wanted its tuition money before allowing them to continue with classes. That explained their bad reviews.

What about good reviews? Did I find any?

I sure did. After several calls to local folks, I found several recent and distant graduates that were happy to give me the low-down on the school. They all were working, making a living at what they set out to do. They said the school was strict, but they appreciated the strictness. It helped mold them into the professionals they are today, in their opinion. They said the curriculum was quality and the instructors were very good at their jobs. Great, so I had finally found some good reviews. That makes me feel a little better about things.

What about my bad experience with the massage I got from their clinic?

I decided that I would return to the clinic for another massage. When I scheduled it, I explained the quality of my last massage was severely lacking. They looked me up in their records and then, in my opinion, took appropriate action. They scheduled me for the same day - to fill an openning that had just become available. On top of that they offered me a 75% discount on the massage. When I arrived, they pulled me off to the side to explain that the person who gave my last massage was "no longer available". Without directly saying so, they implied that the person was no longer with the school. That massage turned out to be wonderful. The therapist-in-training was very considerate of my requests and needs, and very skilled at the work they did. They were even kind enough to answer some of my questions. Suffice it to say, I rebooked!

When I was done with my massage, I asked if I could make an appointment to meet with the admissions counselor. To my surprise, she was willing to talk to me on the spot. I asked a lot of questions and frequently interrupted her sales pitch with more questions. It turns out the school is not just advertising the classes with intentions of only teaching them when an instructor is available. They teach all courses several times a year. She also made an offer I really appreciated. Normally, they charge for one-on-one tutoring from the instructor that's in addition to the normal classtime hours. Due to my vision impairment, she said that my instructors would be available (free of charge) for any needed one-on-one tutoring. Furthermore, she promised me that any assistive technology or other disability-related modifications to their standard curriculum would be paid for, happily, by the school. In fact, she asked if I would help them by suggesting equipment or adaptation needs so that they can offer a quality educational experience to persons with visual impairments. Needless to say, I was quite impressed.

So, what now?

It's simple, really. I will be taking my first course (Chair Massage - 9 Hours) in November. This is an expense I'll have to make out of pocket. Let's just suffice it to say that my counselor wants me to make a small investment into my education because she feels that I will take the program very seriously since some of my own money went into the program. No problem! It will be a financial crunch for me, but when you know a path is right for you, you just know. Investment or not, I am going to make this work.

So, there's an update for all those who may be interested. The ball is rolling with great momentum. I just wish I had put more effort into my research beforehand. It just goes to prove that lots of research is needed when you make these type decisions - lesson learned.

I'm gonna study Massage Therapy! Yay!

--Bill
 


Bill,
I am very happy that your decision to stay in Kentucky and attend the local school seems to be working out for you.
In many ways this will make it easier as you already know how to commute to the school and you will not be leaving your current VR counselor, your friends and your entire support system behind to attend an out of state school. There has to be some satisfaction in knowing that your hard work (phone survey) did indeed pay off with good results!
:smt038 I applaud you for taking the initiative and doing such through and thoughtful investigation of the situation at both schools but especially the local MT school. And yes indeed, you can have students in the same class and find contradicting experiences of the same class/instructor from them.
If you "click" with the school and instructors, you'll know it. At least I did when I attended an open house for potential students about 13 years ago when I was looking for a MT school.
I think it's great that they're willing to "make it work" for you!
It's interesting that they want you to plunk down some of your own money for this chair massage course...
I know a lot of massage schools offer an "intro to massage" course, some places call it "Please Touch"... where members of the public can learn how to give a basic massage to each other. The class usually is for a few hours a week and lasts maybe 6 weeks.
My guess is that by having you take the chair massage course, they're giving both you and the school a chance to see if it's a "good fit."
Will you get credit for the course as part of your "education" then?
Please keep us posted on your progress!
 


Amazing. Thank you for the update, and keep moving forward!
 


More people should investigate their schools as you did... would do a world of good for raising quality standards. :grin:
 


You've done far more research at this point than I ever did! I not only had no definitive idea of what I would be doing for work, I had never even had a massage!! :shock: (yeah, one of 'those'). The gentlemen who came in once a week for small business management had to pick his jaw up off the floor when I told him how I came to be in that classroom. He thought it was funny though and that he would have to revamp his speech about 'planning and preparedness', lol.
 


Bill - So glad that it will work for you to stay in Kentucky. I'm impressed with the research you've put into the school -- more than alot of [most?] students do, I'm sure! Your diligence and persistence will serve you well as you pursue your education and training in massage!

Best wishes for tremendous success!!
 


It sounds like you are really thorough in your investigations. I am glad you stayed with it.

Massage school just like anything else is really more about what you put into it and want to get out of it. Even the worst school could be the best for you if you change your perspective and know what you need and keep asking until you get the answers and help you need.

Massage school and careers are really where we project all of our stuff!

good luck to you!

But you won't need it!

Julie :D
 
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    GREENWAY SPA 4907 yonge street fl2 in North york.cal:416-512-9693 susan is sexy lady with big boobs,suki is very slim & cute young lady.kelly is young lady wirh laeger breasts and a nice bottom.booking now.
  39. SunriseRH:
    SUNDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: NAYLA & TIANA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 ☎️ NAYLA is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. Come and say hola. NANA is a slim & pretty Chinese lady with liberal services. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5’6” & 120Lbs, possessing 36DD-28-39 assets to drive you crazy. SUNRISE SPA
  40. NewOriental:
    SUNDAY at 🍏💚𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔💚🍏HAPPY, KAT & MIMI. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. KAT is BEAUTIFUL, young & slim with C Cups , a tasty figure & a tasty menu. MIMI is a slim and pretty Chinese Attendant with a positive demeanor
  41. ASPA:
    𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝗔 𝗦𝗣𝗔: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL.[/color] 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable.
  42. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Lin Very Young, Petite
Vietnamese Student
With Spicy Slim Body
5’ 1”, 100 lbs Blonde Hair
Great BBJ, CIM ☎️416-988-2950
  43. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Nancy Vietnamese BBBJ/CIM Queen Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl She is 5’ 2” tall, 98 Lbs With D Cup Melons Great Fashion Style ☎️647- 446-0886
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Anida, Jennifer & Mia. Anida is a slim Asian babe with a small waist and great bum. Anita has excellent massage, oral and other skills. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and you’ll be sure to come back for more.
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️Amy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Don’t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services. 🌴😎🌅HOLIDAY SPA🌅😎🌴
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Jessy with slime body open mind 30’s and young cute Summer with slime body 30s, sweet EFG Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: CHERRY & SHAYLA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. SHAYLA is a very sexy Vietnamese lady, slim and beautiful, and her services are exceptional, can do bbbj. Sugar Love Spa
  48. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Shasa,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,🏠 address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  49. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .☎️4379857899🦵🦵👄👄🈵🈵👅👅
  50. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Helen🥰Brand new very young university student from Hong Kong. Great massage skills with a wild flirtatious side willing to tease and please to bring you to satisfaction. Perky natural 34C breasts perfect for kissing and body slide
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