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I was wondering what people thought about back ops. I have suffered from back pain for years (I am a 33 year old male) and I have had various MRI scans. I had gone through about 3 years of limited manageable pain. Last year I had a relapse and since then I have not been able to shift the pain. I finally lost patience with extensive physio and went privately to see a consultant. After another MRI he told me that the l4/l5 prolapse was still there and an operation was my only option. He did not discuss injections and when i asked him about physio, lifetsyle changes (no more running or weights) he scoffed and said an op was the only way forward. He also has me on 600mg of pragabalin which i am desperate to get off. I really do not want an op and wondered if anyone has any ideas of how to get out of the cycle of drugs and pain without an op? At the moment life is manageable but there has to be a better way! Any advice would be welcome.
 
Well surgeons are in the business of doing surgery, so he can tell you what he can offer, but that doesn't mean he knows everything.

I would suggest that there are other routes to explore, whether a different physio or a different profession altogether. It may be a fairly entrenched problem by now so may not yield quickly, but I wouldn't rule out avoiding surgery until you've had another opinion.

Go to someone really good - it sounds obvious but it's the main thing. You may need to ask around to find the right person, the point being that just because one manual therapist hasn't sorted it out does not mean that in principle this route can't help. Good luck.
 
Tallen - when the pain is no longer managable then go for the op. I had a discectomy at L5/S1 at the end of November and I would have it again if needs be. The constant pain down my leg has gone and I'm able to walk and stand without pain. I've never been a runner but I'm hoping that now I've started my physio I will be able to go for long walks in the summer as well as do my garden - something which I've not been able to do for the last two years.
 
have suffered with back pain for some 5 years now,i am 30 now, i have had episodes where it has been really bad, sort of gone and been bearable. Last November it starting getting really bad and has only got worse, i havnt really done any sport since.I had another mri confirming the disc bulge on my nerve.. I have done the physio thing, had the nerve block injection which only helped for a short time.. It is now bad again, i cannot straighten up properly and am bent forward when walking, as this causes the pain, seem in both legs the mo. I dont walk i shuffle! when i turn over in bed! the pain is bad!
I went to see the orthopedic spinal surgeon at bupa cardiff, he has recommended L4/L5 decompression, which is booked for the 12/3/09.

I dont really want to go under the knife, but i have gone from being active, surfing mountain biking, to doing absolutely nothing!!!

Is this the only route?
 
im not sure what type of procedure it is actually, the letter just says L4/5 decompression, i will need to ask ??
 
I have posted this reply on 2 other threads where you have ask the same question Smitho!!

Yes Smitho, In Wales, its all they will offer you. Success with your decopression procedure will depend on the dilligence and humanity of your Surgeon. I made 2 'freedom of information' requests to the spine unit in Cardiff, most of the BUPA Spine Surgeons are also NHS Spine Surgeons, and they informed me that they did not 'record or keep' records of how safe or successful their procedures are!!

If you have private health insurence then check out;
www.spinal-foundation.org
To cross referrence, have a look at the following sites showing the 'future' of spinal surgery being carried out 'today' in the USA.
www.bonati.com
www.laserspineinstitute.com
www.microspine.com
www.zerospinepain.com
www.www.sdspineinstitute.com
www.spinecenter.com
Also view, for research purposes;
www.spineuniverse.com
www.back.com
www.chirogeek.com
www.spine-health.com

If you decide to go through with the decompression Smitho, Here's wishing you all the very best and here's hoping for a speedy and successful recovery!!

Best wishes



SPINELF
 
I'm having same op as you shelly so you think it has worked for you?
 
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    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  42. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Ella is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slim,Joey is very good looking,big breasted service queen,Amy is long hair provide a very good massage with...
  43. Fullssss:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๐Ÿˆต
  44. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mia & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj like a queen, and is open to dfk and cfs. Sasa is slim
  46. HolidaySpa:
    3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ LINA, YOYO & CINDY. [/color] Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. YOYO is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups and a very sexy figure. She provides the best versatile PSE services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a nice smile
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  48. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Phoenix , Nayla & Sasa are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Tina 30โ€™s with curve body open mind and young slime Summer 30โ€™s, pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Nana, Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
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