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Passcard came in yesterday. Am i ready for TJ now? 
Amigomio...there's no call for the animosity, flaming, name calling, etc. in your post. What set you off? Do you feel threatened when a Gringo is knowledgeable about Mexican law?
For the record:
I speak Spanish. I have a FM3 Visa, Mexican DL, and for many years I've maintained a home in Tijuana. (Some years it's been my secondary residence and other years my only residence.)
I have spoken to more than one Mexican attorney practicing law in Tijuana. (One is a former federal prosecutor.) They all tell me, "prostitution is legal in Tijuana." They are the ones who tell me there is a difference between prostitution and actives related to prostitution (such as solicitation) that I posted about above.
Furthermore, as I stated above, it is state and local laws--not Mexican Federal Law--that governs prostitution. So what happens in other cities isn't really applicable to TJ.
If you don't believe me about prostitution being legal in Tijuana then do what I did: Shell out some money and speak to an attorney who practices criminal law in TJ.
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In Mexico the Mexican Minister of Health has classified Viagra, etc. as a Category IV medication. That means a Rx is required to purchase it, but the pharmacy does not have to maintain a record of who purchased it (unlike Category I-III medications). The practical result is that a man can purchase ED medication in TJ w/o a Rx. That's also why the TJ police have "shaken down" tourists for carrying these medications w/o a Rx.
The reason behind Category IV rules is that historically many Mexicans have been too poor to consult a physician when ill. (Even in these days of Seguros Social and Popular the law fills a need.) Many poor turn to pharmacists for medical advice--so Mexican law "winks" at having a Rx for non habituating medication.
For the record:
I speak Spanish. I have a FM3 Visa, Mexican DL, and for many years I've maintained a home in Tijuana. (Some years it's been my secondary residence and other years my only residence.)
I have spoken to more than one Mexican attorney practicing law in Tijuana. (One is a former federal prosecutor.) They all tell me, "prostitution is legal in Tijuana." They are the ones who tell me there is a difference between prostitution and actives related to prostitution (such as solicitation) that I posted about above.
Furthermore, as I stated above, it is state and local laws--not Mexican Federal Law--that governs prostitution. So what happens in other cities isn't really applicable to TJ.
If you don't believe me about prostitution being legal in Tijuana then do what I did: Shell out some money and speak to an attorney who practices criminal law in TJ.
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In Mexico the Mexican Minister of Health has classified Viagra, etc. as a Category IV medication. That means a Rx is required to purchase it, but the pharmacy does not have to maintain a record of who purchased it (unlike Category I-III medications). The practical result is that a man can purchase ED medication in TJ w/o a Rx. That's also why the TJ police have "shaken down" tourists for carrying these medications w/o a Rx.
The reason behind Category IV rules is that historically many Mexicans have been too poor to consult a physician when ill. (Even in these days of Seguros Social and Popular the law fills a need.) Many poor turn to pharmacists for medical advice--so Mexican law "winks" at having a Rx for non habituating medication.
Let me give you an example of how you Americans are used to have Laws and how loopholes leave you perplexed and helpless when these things happen:
From Fox 31
PROVIDENCE, R.I.
Rhode Island laws allow 16-year-old strippers
http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-ri-strippers-minors-072409,0,2169624.story
No one paid attention to this bit when I posted it here.
"The Providence Journal revealed the loophole in a story this week that allows minors to work as strippers as long as they are home by 11:30 p.m."
Isn't it way stupid?
You see how the US is dependent on laws when the obvious arises?
That kind of nonsense does not happen here.
If caught, if no law is written that forbids a girl to strip in a club, she is a minor and that's it.
Period.
Judges here go into the grey zone and improvise the law till a specific law is written using as a starting point ordinances or local or state laws.
It's illegal in the US, but no here.
Yes, it is stupid too, but hell, who is more stupid, a State of the US that allows 16 year old strippers (as long as they are back home by 11:30 pm) or judges that will NOT allow minors to work at clubs, even if it is not stated in the law?
From Fox 31
PROVIDENCE, R.I.
Rhode Island laws allow 16-year-old strippers
http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-ri-strippers-minors-072409,0,2169624.story
No one paid attention to this bit when I posted it here.
"The Providence Journal revealed the loophole in a story this week that allows minors to work as strippers as long as they are home by 11:30 p.m."
Isn't it way stupid?
You see how the US is dependent on laws when the obvious arises?
That kind of nonsense does not happen here.
If caught, if no law is written that forbids a girl to strip in a club, she is a minor and that's it.
Period.
Judges here go into the grey zone and improvise the law till a specific law is written using as a starting point ordinances or local or state laws.
It's illegal in the US, but no here.
Yes, it is stupid too, but hell, who is more stupid, a State of the US that allows 16 year old strippers (as long as they are back home by 11:30 pm) or judges that will NOT allow minors to work at clubs, even if it is not stated in the law?
Once again, you depend on plain, open ignorance:
"I want to see the written Mexican law that states breathing is legal"
Ok Burt "The actual act of prostitution is legal".
Wrong.
Read: The ordinace says "Activities related to drugs or prostitution"
Burt, once and for all Mexico is not your country, I know far better how the US runs more than you do, and far better how Mexico works.
Am up to date Burt: Death Panels, Medical care for immigrants, Socialist USA, Obama with Letterman... "I can see Russia from my house".
How about the other way around Burt? What do you know about Mexico?
Back to business: That phrase is so vauge, like the word ACTIVITES encompasses everything related to prostitution, not just strutting around.
It gives so much freedom to the judge to decide what not to do or do that you would be surprised.
Sorry Burt. Wrong.
Why do you think you can be picked up for carrying Cialis or Viagra? Cause it is related precisly with this "reglamento". If you are carrying Viagra or Cialis without a prescription, you are doing activies related to drugs and the judge can see it this way and fined for having them in your posession.
You still don't understand that in our simplicity, Mexican law if aplied (not allowing for corruption) is easy to understand and interpret.
You'll never get it cause you Americans want it spelled out to you in plain English, crossing the "Ts" and dotting the "Is".
That Burt, is not happening in Mexico.
By the way, only the small cities like TJ have Zonas.
The big ones like Monterrey, Guadalajara, Tampico, Veracruz... do not have them.
So if they see a hooker in the streets, she is picked up on the spot.
And I mean on the streets as in the sense that if in the big cities, if a club girl leaves the club and crosses the street to buy something at a 7-11, she can be picked up.
Streetwalkers are picked up on the street (unless the cops are on the take or paid protection by the girls).
And so on and so on.
"I want to see the written Mexican law that states breathing is legal"
Ok Burt "The actual act of prostitution is legal".
Wrong.
Read: The ordinace says "Activities related to drugs or prostitution"
Burt, once and for all Mexico is not your country, I know far better how the US runs more than you do, and far better how Mexico works.
Am up to date Burt: Death Panels, Medical care for immigrants, Socialist USA, Obama with Letterman... "I can see Russia from my house".
How about the other way around Burt? What do you know about Mexico?
Back to business: That phrase is so vauge, like the word ACTIVITES encompasses everything related to prostitution, not just strutting around.
It gives so much freedom to the judge to decide what not to do or do that you would be surprised.
Sorry Burt. Wrong.
Why do you think you can be picked up for carrying Cialis or Viagra? Cause it is related precisly with this "reglamento". If you are carrying Viagra or Cialis without a prescription, you are doing activies related to drugs and the judge can see it this way and fined for having them in your posession.
You still don't understand that in our simplicity, Mexican law if aplied (not allowing for corruption) is easy to understand and interpret.
You'll never get it cause you Americans want it spelled out to you in plain English, crossing the "Ts" and dotting the "Is".
That Burt, is not happening in Mexico.
By the way, only the small cities like TJ have Zonas.
The big ones like Monterrey, Guadalajara, Tampico, Veracruz... do not have them.
So if they see a hooker in the streets, she is picked up on the spot.
And I mean on the streets as in the sense that if in the big cities, if a club girl leaves the club and crosses the street to buy something at a 7-11, she can be picked up.
Streetwalkers are picked up on the street (unless the cops are on the take or paid protection by the girls).
And so on and so on.
Mine took about 4 weeks.
The CBP are not fining people for crossing without a passport or passcard. You won't have any problems crossing with just a driver's license. Having a copy of your birth certificate and passport/passcard with you will probably save you a lecture of needing to apply for a passport/passcard.
My estimate is that 1/3 the people crossing don't have a passport or passcard.
The CBP are not fining people for crossing without a passport or passcard. You won't have any problems crossing with just a driver's license. Having a copy of your birth certificate and passport/passcard with you will probably save you a lecture of needing to apply for a passport/passcard.
My estimate is that 1/3 the people crossing don't have a passport or passcard.
Note the website says “activities related to prostitution.” Not prostitution.
The actual act of prostitution is legal, but public manifestation of prostitution is illegal. For example, it is illegal for a chica to stand on the sidewalk soliciting customers. But the law is not enforced within the Zone of Tolerance. In like manner a monger cannot solicit a chica in public outside the Zone of Tolerance. These are acts related to prostitution.
Here’s the big picture: Little old ladies, young girls, etc. are not supposed to be exposed to prostitution. Hence activities related to prostitution are illegal in public (outside a Zone of Tolerance). But prostitution is legal—if not done publicly.
I want to see the written Mexican law that states breathing is legal. My point? The law does not enumerate legal activities—only illegal activities.
Also, the laws governing prostitution are local and state laws—not Mexican federal law. So what is legal and illegal varies from city to city and state to state. (My comments are only intended to apply to Tijuana.)
The actual act of prostitution is legal, but public manifestation of prostitution is illegal. For example, it is illegal for a chica to stand on the sidewalk soliciting customers. But the law is not enforced within the Zone of Tolerance. In like manner a monger cannot solicit a chica in public outside the Zone of Tolerance. These are acts related to prostitution.
Here’s the big picture: Little old ladies, young girls, etc. are not supposed to be exposed to prostitution. Hence activities related to prostitution are illegal in public (outside a Zone of Tolerance). But prostitution is legal—if not done publicly.
I want to see the written Mexican law that states breathing is legal. My point? The law does not enumerate legal activities—only illegal activities.
Also, the laws governing prostitution are local and state laws—not Mexican federal law. So what is legal and illegal varies from city to city and state to state. (My comments are only intended to apply to Tijuana.)
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This is the part that makes Americans look dumb to the eyes of the world.
Sorry about that guys, but it's true.
I posted a link that makes it clear that prostitution in Mexico is sanctioned as not legal, seen as a misdemeanor.
This one, again:
http://www.tijuana.gob.mx/turismo/To...glish/pag6.asp
And then someone comes along and says that the abscence of the law makes it legal.
What the hell does the ordenance in the webpage states then?
There's no abscence of law, it's right there.
And let's get this clear: maybe in the US you can do whatever you want without breaking the written law (which in many cases it's not true), but there are parts in the world, many to speak the truth, that require a specific law to make it legal and if it is not in the Book, you can not do it.
And one of these palces is Mexico.
Sorry about that guys, but it's true.
I posted a link that makes it clear that prostitution in Mexico is sanctioned as not legal, seen as a misdemeanor.
This one, again:
http://www.tijuana.gob.mx/turismo/To...glish/pag6.asp
And then someone comes along and says that the abscence of the law makes it legal.
What the hell does the ordenance in the webpage states then?
There's no abscence of law, it's right there.
And let's get this clear: maybe in the US you can do whatever you want without breaking the written law (which in many cases it's not true), but there are parts in the world, many to speak the truth, that require a specific law to make it legal and if it is not in the Book, you can not do it.
And one of these palces is Mexico.
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Its been a few years-but I got an offer at Altalita for $35 and I took the offer! it was a slightly older daytime type. I thought it was a "Introductory Rate" but it turned out to be a good session. I guess That HO was a "motivated seller"
Gmbrldx: it isn't a "tit-for-tat" thing.
Iam placing a TJ ordinance that states that things that deal with prostitution are not accepted.
They are fined.
It's written proof from the Municipio de Tijuana's Reglamento del Bando de Policيa.
As easy as that.
Sometime ago someone said that a Mexican lawyer friend of his said that prostitution was legal in Mexico and this poster was never able to produce the law.
I want to see the written Mexican Law that states that prostitution is legal in Mexico, which many of you quote and we have never seen.
Simple, just get it and place it here.
Iam placing a TJ ordinance that states that things that deal with prostitution are not accepted.
They are fined.
It's written proof from the Municipio de Tijuana's Reglamento del Bando de Policيa.
As easy as that.
Sometime ago someone said that a Mexican lawyer friend of his said that prostitution was legal in Mexico and this poster was never able to produce the law.
I want to see the written Mexican Law that states that prostitution is legal in Mexico, which many of you quote and we have never seen.
Simple, just get it and place it here.
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Little Man, am sorry to tell you but prostitution is not legal in Mexico.
It is tolerated, that's why la Zona is called that way, cause it's la Zona de Tolerancia.
But not legal in the sense that it is in the law books as "prostitution is legal in Mexico".
The passing of laws if to be done, is by the corresponding state, in this case Baja California, but they in place have left the Municipio de Tijuana to pass ordenances if it is accepted or not.
It is only seen as a misdemeanor, and fineable from 450 up to 1,230 peso in Tijuana, and can you can be held accountable for many things right now in the Federal level (specially human traffiking) if the authorities would like to do it, but no, cause it's tolerated.
Check out this link:
http://www.tijuana.gob.mx/turismo/TouristGuide/English/pag6.asp
It's right there under "Activities related to drugs or prostitution."
It is tolerated, that's why la Zona is called that way, cause it's la Zona de Tolerancia.
But not legal in the sense that it is in the law books as "prostitution is legal in Mexico".
The passing of laws if to be done, is by the corresponding state, in this case Baja California, but they in place have left the Municipio de Tijuana to pass ordenances if it is accepted or not.
It is only seen as a misdemeanor, and fineable from 450 up to 1,230 peso in Tijuana, and can you can be held accountable for many things right now in the Federal level (specially human traffiking) if the authorities would like to do it, but no, cause it's tolerated.
Check out this link:
http://www.tijuana.gob.mx/turismo/TouristGuide/English/pag6.asp
It's right there under "Activities related to drugs or prostitution."
Thankfully we have TJ. US is illegal, and MX is Legal. For a tourist you want to go where it's legal and go back home safely. In TJ, you get to see through your own eyes not pictures.
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Thanks LM,
I'll be in SD for part of the trip. I've looking at CL for some quality "companionship" research. Have a few I'm investigating. With your proclivity towards large I don't figure they will be ones you know though. I like'em tiny. Two of the ones I've been watching are Asian. Never had Asian before might just give it a go. Then if the Pass Card is in I figure to head down to TJ for some quantity mongering.
Stay Safe.
LP
I'll be in SD for part of the trip. I've looking at CL for some quality "companionship" research. Have a few I'm investigating. With your proclivity towards large I don't figure they will be ones you know though. I like'em tiny. Two of the ones I've been watching are Asian. Never had Asian before might just give it a go. Then if the Pass Card is in I figure to head down to TJ for some quantity mongering.
Stay Safe.
LP
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️SPARKLING SPA️ 50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8 Markham, ON L3R 8X4 (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY NEW MANAGEMENTNEW GIRLSSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is… Zoe - Stunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who
- SunriseRH:
WEDNESDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: NAYLA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 LILY is Chinese, new today. Details to follow... LUISA is a young,pretty, and slim Spanish senorita with slight curves and a hot hot hot attittude. NAYLA is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. Come and say hola.
- NewOriental:
WEDNESDAY at𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔: HAPPY & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. VIVIAN is a pretty & very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5’7” tall, with a slim figure. Vivian is very friendly and versatile. NEW ORIENTAL SPA
- ASPA:
𝗪𝗘𝗗𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗗𝗔𝗬 at 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Amy, Coco & 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲 COCO has a medium build and nice D Cups for boob lovers. She has nice skin, good massage and services. Coco Works Wednesdays at A Spa.
- Moneylee:
Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Lucky , Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 4379857899 ️️
- Moneylee:
All season wellness center : New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Zoe ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E24376655510 ️️
- ForeverWarden:
Wednesday at𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5’3” with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
- bnwellness_wilson:
Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 3 beautiful girls are working today , young cute Yuki 30’s slime open mind and pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
- Aqua Health Centre:
Lily and Wendy are available today! Wednesday slow relaxing massage 1729 Bloor Street West At Keele Subway Station High Park area 647-343-6851 - HolidaySpa:
Wednesday at𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵CINDY, KELLY & KIKI. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Kelly is slim and attractive with very slight curves, all natural coconuts, a nice bum, and rockin’ services.
- SugarLoveSpa:
Wednesday at ⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠: CHERRY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. Sugar Love Spa is an all new spa, and we are moving more upscale, with beautiful young attendants
- Jenny’s Spa:
JENNY’S SPA 5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4 ( 647-893-5196)Call or Text ( 437-888-3759)Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY GRAND OPENINGNEW GIRLS EVERYDAYEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco- A young cute blonde Asian girl mak
- Lulu_Villa_Spa:
Susan new Colombian girl .she is 5’4” tall, 108 pounds, beautiful curves, exotic eyes, long black hair, bodacious chests Natalie She is from Philippines CBC Petite school girl 5’ 2”, 100 lbs black Hair
GFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu. Provides Excellent Service Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons 647-446-0886
- See You Health Center:
Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5’2” tall. 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl She is 5’ 2” tall, 98 Lbs With D Cup Melons Great Fashion Style and Provides Excellent Customer 416-988-2950
- YM203:
MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Turkish Persian girl Jasmine &new Young Asian girl in today
- Golden Sunshine Spa:
Click On Username and FOLLOW US Today AlettaKimChristina AkameAndrea ☎905 - 265 - 2158
- Soul Relax Spa:
Click On Username and FOLLOW US Today Emily Tina Emily ☎289 - 298 - 5662
- Lulu1980:
Phoenix blossom Spa
3 girls a day, young, beautiful, new girl Sophia, sexy figure Cindy provides excellent service Professional Thai massage technique Suki Welcome to enter or make an appointment, there are plenty of parking spaces at the back door 5124 Dundas W Etobicoke 416-817-3366 - Annie Spa:
ANNIE SPA 7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6 (647) 891-9688 (416) 291-8879 (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY NEW MANAGEMENTNEW GIRLS GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Baby
A young, vibrant 22 year old petite spinner from Vietnam with a calm and welcoming presence. Her dark, flowing hair complements her soft, warm smile, creating an approachable and friendly atmosphere. She carries herself with
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