Piriformis Syndrome Client???

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Hi Everyone,
Just want a little advice please if you dont mind
I have a client who i have known for a number of years personally (my best friends mum) and she has been in terrible pain for the last couple of months and has been diagnosed with Sciatica. She called me asking for a massage to relieve her pain so after getting all the boxes ticked with her GP I did her a treatment a week and half ago. I did quite a bit of research before hand about sciatica so i could confidently treat her and i did adapt the treatment so she was comfortable and had plenty of cushions and I did a lot of work on the hips and glutes and she felt great relief afterwards and called me to rebook this Saturday. So I have been reacherching a little more and have found information on Piriformis Synrome which causes Sciatic Pain, she has no pain in the spine just all the way down her legs to the toes and this seems to fit her description of the pain more than the Sciatica. i have printed off the info and I would ever try to diagnose someone as it is not my job but do you think I should give it her to take to our local GP as she is there every week trying to get sorted out or keep my thoughts to myself?? (Our local GP is not the best I moved my family due to there poor standards) as I think if she has been mis-diagnosed she could get sorted and off for some Physical Therapy instead of being doped up on tablets (18 per day) and depressed as she cannot leave the house.
Also if you have any tips for me to add to my massage to help that would be great.
Thanks
Coop
 
tis a tricky one, as therapist we should not diagnose nor scaremonger our clients. You could do some work on her piriformis muscle.. and giver her exercieses to stretch this out... often tghteness comes with the sciatica.
Then she can mention to her dr that her piriformis has been unusually tight, would this be in line with her symptoms???!!!!

That way you are not mis diagnosing...

Look at Trigger Points for the Piriformis release, if you are not familiar with these, maybe just apply pressure - firm but not painful, to the origin and insertion points of the muscle.. the pain will hurt initially but lessen.. the client should feel this...
Also, maybe some vibration work and kneading over the muscle will help.

Hope this is helpful and not arrogant!

love and light,
 
I totally agree that we're not allowed to diagnose... I'm not sure whata GP can do to help with piriformis syndrome; it's so often misdiagnosed. Anyway, there are some sport therapy muscle tests that can be done to be sure that it is the piriformis that's the problem (deduction rather than diagnosis!!)...

The piriformis muscle, as I'm sure you know, does lateral rotation at the hip. It is very deep inside the pelvis, so you can't really get to it to do any massage-like/trigger pointingwork on it. You can test this by doing both Lateral and Medial Rotation at the hip tests - one to check the strength of the muscle, the other to test its stretchiness... Lateral:get you client to lie on their front, with the offending leg bent up at the knee so the foot is up in the air. Then get them to slowly drop their foot over towards their other leg (keeping the knee bent and thigh in the same position, so it's just rolling - this is lateral rotation at the hip). If this hurts them in the hip, there could be weakness in the piriformis muscle. Compare left and right legs, to see what's normal Range of Movement for them. Repeat this going the other way (so the leg flops out, keeping the leg bent), then compare left and right.(This is medial rotation). If the range of movement is different to the other leg, chances are, the piriformis is tight. Then, while they are still medially rotating (I know it's weird cause the foot islateral, but this is medial rotation at the hip)place your hand around their ankle, hold their leg at the end of their range of movement and ask them to gently resist your pressure. If this is different from their other leg, chances are their piriformis is an area you might consider working on. Really difficult to explain with out demonstrating or drawing a picture! Hope I haven't offended any sports therapists colleagues with a bad explanation!![&:]

Assuming the tests are positive (ie. there is a problem with the piriformis) you could refer them to a sports therapist, who could do Muscle Energy Technique stretches (METs) to the piriformis by getting them to lie on their back on the couch, then with with knee bent and hip flexed, pushing their knee across to the opposite shoulder. This gives the piriformis a really good stretch, then using either METs or PNF techniques, you can stretch this further.

The other thing the sports therapist will likely do is advise on some exercises for the piriformis. These will strengthen and stretch the hip rotators and they can do the knee to opposite shoulder thing themselves, and another good one is sitting on a dining chair, with knees and hips at 90 degrees, then move the ankle out to the side, whilst keeping the knee in the same flexed position and the hip in the same flexed position. Swinging out and in will be a really good exercise for the piriformis.

Bowen could help them too, as it is possibly a wonky pelvis or jaw that's causing the problem, and I would also get them to think about doingyoga!

Hope that's helped.
 
Hi Coop[/align][/align]Although we are taught not to diagnose, the consultation often gives us good indications of what is going on, I think you are referring to pseudo sciatica, you get the pain running down the back of the leg but it is generally coming from the nerve being griped by the periformis muscle in the cheek of the bottom, not trapped by the spine.[/align][/align]To release it we generally use deep friction upper and lower areas of the muscle and go a bit easier in the middle or when you hit the painful spot until it starts to respond then slowly increasing the pressure whilst keeping within the pain threshold of the person.[/align][/align]You have to keep using effleurage to keep the area flowing with nutrients whilst you work, two or three good treatments should see iteasing and then it does not take long to seeit on itsway, don't forget to massage the legs, especially the hamstrings as they can contribute to the overallproblem.[/align][/align]If the person is responding then explain what you suspect to her and she will probably chat to the Dr about it.[/align]
 
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    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Kelly ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  37. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  38. SunriseRH:
    MONDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: MIMI & NAYLA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ MIMI is a slim and pretty Chinese Attendant with a positive demeanor and a readiness to please. NAYLA is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. Come and say hola. SUNRISE SPA
  39. NewOriental:
    MONDAY at ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: HAPPY & KAT 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. KAT is BEAUTIFUL, young & slim with C Cups , a tasty figure & a tasty menu. NEW ORIENTAL SPA
  40. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  41. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Summer โค๏ธ has nice sexy body, and nice breasts. She can give very good massage and fun service. Very sexy, and so friendly. Beautiful girl with great massage skills and willing to give you a happy fun session multiple times if you
  42. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ*New Girl CANDY, YUMI & CINDY CANDY is a slim and attractive Asian Attendant with nice boobs, slim waist & a booty loverโ€™s ass. Candy has a full range of services. YUMI is a sexy skinny Chinese babe, short with big boobs, nice smile & very good services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Lisa, Cindy & Ruby. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. RUBY is Singaporean, very slim, petite & sexy, speaks English well, & has great services. Cindy is a slim beauty,
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  45. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Michelle, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  46. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 11 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, ASHA, MONIKA, NINA, MALIYA, NISHA, SARIKA, SANA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Suki ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  48. EMSpa_schedule:
    โค๏ธโœ…๏ธ Here's a sneak peek of the schedule โœ…๏ธโค๏ธ: For Monday October 21, 2024, our attendants will be Mia ๐Ÿ˜, Summer ๐Ÿคฉ, Vicky ๐Ÿฅฐ, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜ and guest attendant Kimmy ๐Ÿ”ฅ We have a new guest attendant Kimmy joining us tomorrow! โฃ๏ธ
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Michelle, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  50. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, 19 years old Japanese girl Hannah 32F, 20 years Japanese girl Amanda 20 years old, lucky, Jenny, queenie, Vanessa, @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
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