Rent & percentage???

[MENTAL PATIENT]

A schoolmate of mine wants to start a massage business, and she wants to bring me on as an independent contractor.  She wants to charge me $120 a month rent and take a certain perceneforum.xxxe of all the work I do.  The perceneforum.xxxe would decrease as my volume increases.  She didn't have exact numbers yet but thinks she would take 50 percent for 1 to 5 massages a week, 40 for 6- to 10, etc.I like this lady but I think that's too little money for me.  I need tactful suggestions to encourage her to change her mind a bit.  Any ideas?  Any websites or resources that I could show her?Oh by the way, she says she will provide all oils, etc, and I don't really want that either.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Rent & percentage???

My suggestion would be to write down exactly what you want. Make it clear for yourself first. Don't be afraid to speak up because if it works out well, you could be there for quite some time. If you start off with a bunch of regrets, it won't last long and you'll be searching for another opportunity. A lot of therapists move around too often and lose clients in the shuffle. Talk to her, tell her your concerns and then see if you can find a middle ground. She'll respect you for your input and if she doesn't, she might not be worth working for. I left the spa I was at due, in part, to the high demands and low perceneforum.xxxe (50%). Everything was provided for me but I worked like a dog while the spa owner was off in Europe and shopping with a seemingly bottomless purse. I knew where she was getting that money and I didn't want to be the one putting all my energy into it. You need to honestly evaluate this business opportunity and decide if you are okay with someone making that much money from your work. You'll definitely need to find a balance and know what you are getting into. If she is putting a lot of money into advertising, it might be worth it but maybe you'll be expected to find your own clients. Look at what she's giving you and what you'll be expected to give back to her.

 

[Really Dude]

I'm not a salon or spa owner, but I just have to put two cents in for the person who offered you this position, soufin. If you enter into the massage profession as an establishment owner, you MUST not only make rent, utilities & all, but a salary for yourself and many other expenses. When we enter into the biz as independents, we only have to worry about the cost/profit ratio for ourselves as sole proprietors.If you're tempted to take her up on the offer, make sure you'll be happy. You may not "change her mind" about anything at all. There are lots of pros & cons to both sides of the coin:  being an empployee and being independent. I have a girlfriend who is happy & very successful in her current situation as an employee. She realizes when she crunches the numbers each week that she could possibly make more (and sometimes less) money if she were simply renting instead of commission. She really has thought it through from her own vaneforum.xxxe point & is happy where she sits:  she does not have to advertise (although she does from time to time), her employer pays a portion of and handles all her taxes & social security, if she takes time off she doesn't still owe rent, etc, etc. Some people are just more suited to showing up for work, doing their craft & going home to their personal lives.As a future salon owner, I'll be making sure that I make more than a comfortable living, and that living will be "off of" other MTs like myself. I'll have my own perks to offer the renters & commission people alike... reasons that I hope they'll continue to work with me for.I always say, have a really clear idea of yourself in this proposed situation. What would it take to make it a lucrative & happy situation for you? Then pause a moment & think from the other person's perspective. You'll then get a more realistic idea of how things will feel day to day. And you'll get a much more realistic idea if this working relationship fits the two of you. If it's a brand new endeavor for each of you (she's in school too, right?), you're each going to be trying to protect yourself from risk. You might not come to terms right off the bat. Perhaps she'll work out some kind of probationary agreement with you to see if it'll work well. Perhaps she just has a clear idea of how she has planned her business and won't alter course.I do believe in asking for what you want. I just know from life experience that you might have to do the prep & lay the ground work yourself to create the situation that's correct for you. Go in there to negotiate for yourself, but don't think it a case of changing her business dream to suit yours.Jill/Sagetherapist

 

[ClassicManalo]

Thanks you two.  It helped me line things up when I read your replies.I just wanted to clarify that I graduated in March...she JUST graduated.  I was hoping that I could help her even if I don't work with her by explaining the pros and cons as well as I could.  Thanks again.

 

[Vortex]

It's just my opinion but I don't think that's a good deal even for a recent graduate.  She can charge you rent, or she take a perceneforum.xxxe but not both.  That's ridiculous.  Granted, the rent is really low but she'll be making her overhead (for rent, utilities, laundry, supplies, etc), from the perceneforum.xxxe.  There's no reason for the rent as well.  Good luck.  Joe E.

 

[xantia]

I would like to add, make sure all agreements and promises of advertisiing, etc. are in writing. I  am working as an employee right now, I decided to work  at  this place {an "upscale spalon"} because I was told she was always getting requests for massage from her customers,and phone calls asking if she offered msg. And that she would advertise and promote....well time pass's and nothing so I ask her about it , then she tells me she that advertising does not pay off that she believes in instore promos and add on incentives so times goes on....and I talk to her again, well  I think  you can see where this is going. I have approached her customers and her hair stylist try and push massage to, BUT  {in my opinion} the number one reasons I am not  busy is her rates $70. per hour when massage goes for  $35-$45 an hour in this town. { she was not familiar with the msg bsns. so she kept asking for for advice and info , which I got frome my school, msg mags, off the web and other therapists) So for now I am biding my time bringing home a small pay check and looking for other opportunities and also working for myself 2 days a week renting at another location. Sorry for all the ranting and raving but once I get started....

 

[Nathan M. Holden]

Always remember.....You come firstTry not to waste time being loyal to someone else if the situtation doesnt suit youThere is always another solutionYou have optionsYou need to be happy, first and foremostIf you are not happy    LEAVEPeople will promise, they believe they can deliver, there is good in everyone but not everyone makes a good massage bossMassage is a blessing we have been given if you stay true to your self, meet your needs you will be happy and prosporus

 

[Obama Lied Trillion$ Died]

I am being loyal to myself,  I do need to bring home the bacon, yes there are other solutions and options but they are very limited where I live So it would ge hard just to LEAVE. I don't think I would be very happy unemployed and broke. Any way I was just sharing my  experience