Spa wants to hire MTs with "full clientele"?

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I saw an ad for a spa that said:

"Those applying for the Massage Therapist and Stylist positions MUST have a FULL clientele. "

Curious... do they expect a massage therapist to bring his or her clients to the spa? Doesn't that seem a little backwards? I'm trying to imagine a situation in which a therapist with a "full clientele" would want to do so.

What's your take on this?
 
Spa wants to hire MTs with "full clientele"?

Huh, I agree with you, Josh. If a therapist had "full clientele" already, WHY would they be looking for a job??? But yeah, I agree- that is what that sounds like they're asking for.

I have seen ads for therapists/hair stylists who might have at least SOME of their own clientele. But "full"? Who determines what that means? LOL!
 
Spa wants to hire MTs with "full clientele"?

EgoMagickian said:
What's your take on this?

My take... a bit odd... :lipsaresealed: maybe it's for MT's who are not wanting to rent space, but just make a commision and get out of a lease situation? Seems un-profitable.
 
Spa wants to hire MTs with "full clientele"?

naturalhealing said:
They probably want someone coming from another day spa.

But.... don't *most* day spas have non-compete clauses?
 
Spa wants to hire MTs with "full clientele"?

Timedess said:
naturalhealing said:
They probably want someone coming from another day spa.

But.... don't *most* day spas have non-compete clauses?

i know it technically isn't a spa, but massage envy has a 3yr non-compete clause. or at least the one in folsom, ca did.

this would be an interesting one to call about, purely for clarification.
 
Spa wants to hire MTs with "full clientele"?

I have noticed this mostly with hair stylist and esthetician ads - but starting to see it now with MT's too.

Really - what are they thinking?
If I had a full book I wouldn't NEED them at all!
I have a great treatment room.
Plus the commission splits with some of these "spas" are HORRIBLE.

What are they bringing to the table that would entice ANYONE to bring their valuable clients there?

NOT a good deal IMO.
 
Spa wants to hire MTs with "full clientele"?

I think they are just looking to poach an MT from another establishment by offering a better comp scheme.

If you are of the school that clients are associated with the MT, then it makes sense. Hire someone who is busy elsewhere (no, not you, ew) and they bring their regulars and get 5% more per service out of it, or whatever.

The biggest drawback to this approach to hiring is reaping what you sow. Expect your staff to leave and do the same to you.

Of course, the way to prevent it is to make sure clients associate themselves with the wonderful experience of the establishment, including the soothing touch of ANY member of the massage staff.

Not all spas have a non-compete, and above all NCAs have to be "reasonable" which I think MEs would be judged not to be, even by this evil, greedy spa owner.
 
Spa wants to hire MTs with "full clientele"?

I've never seen you as either of those by your posts, R&R. Your direct and informative posting has put you on my list of superstars on this forum.
 
Spa wants to hire MTs with "full clientele"?

I work in a Spa for 2 years and I was responsible for getting my own clients even though I was an hourly employee. And there where time when my book was not filled to the owners satisfaction and I would get the third degree. This brings up a good point, when you are an employee who should be doing the marketing for services the business or employee?
 
Spa wants to hire MTs with "full clientele"?

JLWmassage said:
I work in a Spa for 2 years and I was responsible for getting my own clients even though I was an hourly employee. And there where time when my book was not filled to the owners satisfaction and I would get the third degree. This brings up a good point, when you are an employee who should be doing the marketing for services the business or employee?

As a business owner, employer, and MT, I have a multilevel perspective:

1. The business owner is responsible for marketing the business. Employees may be required (paid) or asked to volunteer to participate in some (paid) marketing activities. The business owner is also responsible for monitoring the outcomes of marketing activities and making changes (or obtaining help) as needed.

2. The employer is responsible for selling new clients on the merits of the business and then enticing clients to return and/or try more of their massage therapists. The employer should try to match up clients with appropriate therapists.

3. The massage therapist is responsible for building a stable base of repeat clients. This ensures a more consistent level of income throughout the year, and provides some individual cushion against economic pressures. Overall business volume may drop, but MTs with many regular clients will barely notice a change while MTs who don't get requests are suddenly struggling.

  • * In other words, when people in my area think, "I need a massage," my first concern is that they think of our business as THE place to go.
    * My second concern is that I want them to feel confident in their MT and have a great experience so that they want to return and/or recommend us to others.
    * Third, as an MT, I want my clients to think of me as THE person to see and/or recommend to others. My employer can't do this for me - it's up to me.
 
Spa wants to hire MTs with "full clientele"?

Those are all great Jason, but that was not the thought of the Spa owner when I was working there and is still not.

Now the clinic where I am at now is the conplete opposite. The owner does not want us coming in with a following or marketing ourself. The owner wants to be in charge of bring in all new clients. Now this has been a sort of odd sticking point in our realtionship bc I have brought many of my owner clients and I really don't have the room for new ones at this point. I have decided that he is a control freak and needs to be needed. :lol:
 
Spa wants to hire MTs with "full clientele"?

JLWmassage said:
Those are all great Jason, but that was not the thought of the Spa owner when I was working there and is still not.

Now the clinic where I am at now is the conplete opposite. The owner does not want us coming in with a following or marketing ourself. The owner wants to be in charge of bring in all new clients. Now this has been a sort of odd sticking point in our realtionship bc I have brought many of my owner clients and I really don't have the room for new ones at this point. I have decided that he is a control freak and needs to be needed. :lol:

I don't understand your employer's attitude and won't attempt to guess his reasons. It seems irrational. :smt017

Right now we are interviewing candidates for a massage therapist position. Several already have years of experience and an established clientele that may (or may not) follow them. Though it would be nice to have that extra business coming in right away, we are more interested in the fact that these MTs have already figured out how to build and maintain a clientele. Extraordinary massage skills are not enough; these MTs have mastered the additional people and service skills necessary to be individually successful over the long haul, and that is good for the business as a whole.

We are very lucky to have several applicants with such strong backgrounds.
 
Spa wants to hire MTs with "full clientele"?

JasonE said:
Right now we are interviewing candidates for a massage therapist position. Several already have years of experience and an established clientele that may (or may not) follow them. Though it would be nice to have that extra business coming in right away, we are more interested in the fact that these MTs have already figured out how to build and maintain a clientele. Extraordinary massage skills are not enough; these MTs have mastered the additional people and service skills necessary to be individually successful over the long haul, and that is good for the business as a whole.

We are very lucky to have several applicants with such strong backgrounds.

You ARE lucky!
But I suspect that it is because of the economy that these MT's are looking for additional work.
Where does that put you when the economy turns around?
:grin:
 
Spa wants to hire MTs with "full clientele"?

JasonE said:
JLWmassage said:
Those are all great Jason, but that was not the thought of the Spa owner when I was working there and is still not.

Now the clinic where I am at now is the conplete opposite. The owner does not want us coming in with a following or marketing ourself. The owner wants to be in charge of bring in all new clients. Now this has been a sort of odd sticking point in our realtionship bc I have brought many of my owner clients and I really don't have the room for new ones at this point. I have decided that he is a control freak and needs to be needed. :lol:

I don't understand your employer's attitude and won't attempt to guess his reasons. It seems irrational. :smt017

Right now we are interviewing candidates for a massage therapist position. Several already have years of experience and an established clientele that may (or may not) follow them. Though it would be nice to have that extra business coming in right away, we are more interested in the fact that these MTs have already figured out how to build and maintain a clientele. Extraordinary massage skills are not enough; these MTs have mastered the additional people and service skills necessary to be individually successful over the long haul, and that is good for the business as a whole.

We are very lucky to have several applicants with such strong backgrounds.



The owner said something that made me sort of understand why. Because if by the off chance I leave all those clients will probaly not stay at his place bc I brought them in and that is money out of his pocket to try to rebuild what is has lost. IDK :smt017 . I tried stoacking the male ego to let him know that I am happy where I am and I am busy so why should I leave :?:
 
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    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธKandy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  36. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธClaireCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  37. Sparkling Spa:
    Sasa is working at Sparkling Spa with Zoe today Tuesday November 5th. Real pictures of Sasa & Zoe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏCall or text to book appointment ๐Ÿ“ฒ โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the official schedule for AMORE SPA: (Korean Ashley hasn't been here for AGES. The old confused imposter doesn't realize he has lost another customer, and continues to post errors and incorrect pics). Tuesday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY(10AM-11pm) & Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face
  40. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Anika , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  41. ASPA:
    TUESDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Best Massage Rachel, & Wendy ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4โ€ tall with nice responsive 34Cโ€™s and a captivating smooth rounded bottom. She is popular for her excellent massage skills and a little extra.
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: CICI, CINDY & JENNY. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, MIMI & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services.
  45. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5โ€™2โ€tall . 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  46. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Great BBBJ, CIM, GFE in Her menu Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  47. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  48. Sunrise Health Centre:
    Tiana & Noor are here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30โ€™s open mind with big buttocks and young Cute Mia 25โ€™s , pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
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