steiner cruise spas? help!

[chandler bing]

I think I would rather be a Columbian drug mule and swallow fifty condoms. At least when your finished with your job you don't have to sell the product afterwards. :shock:

Jason

 

[wickedrub]

Yes, and they forgot to mention that during the time you're in training, your pay is minimum wage.

What do you consider to be appropriate pay to be trained, housed and fed?

You are being taught treatments and techniques that you take with you to your next job or private practice.

 

[susan s]

Yes, and they forgot to mention that during the time you're in training, your pay is minimum wage.

What do you consider to be appropriate pay to be trained, housed and fed?

You are being taught treatments and techniques that you take with you to your next job or private practice.

Wow, this must have hit a nerve with you!

I certainly meant no offense to anyone, merely commenting on my own experiences with the company so that anyone considering a position with them can benefit from hearing various perspectives. What is done with that information is entirely up to the individual.

To be perfectly honest with you, I find their training and their techniques to be substandard. What I learned way back in massage school far superceded anything Steiner taught us, and I don't use any of their techniques in my current practice.

Their treatments are commonly thought of as "fluff 'n' buff," and so are of little use to my clients, and to my practice.

Namaste,
Carole

 

[Jamie Goldsteen]

You did hit a nerve. It is not about offense, other than therapists seem to think employers are made of money. But I am curious what you think therapists should be pay to be trained?

We are in the process of training our therapists across the country to do 15 - 20 minute presentations on Relaxation Techniques and Self-Massage for Travelers to be presented nightly at our partner hotels "Unwind Events" One of our managers with 25 years experience has put a lot of effort and knowledge into scripting the events and putting together the training. The technicians doing the events will be paid for two hour work every night, can get tips and have first dibs on any in-room massages that come from the events. Plus, this is knowledge they can take with them to use with other clients.

When we invited three technicians to come witness one of the events so they would be able to relate the training to reality, they all expected to get paid the standard rate for both hours!

You pay for school, you pay for CEUs (which many here admit they take the cheapest ones just to meet their requirement and learn nothing for their money) but when it comes to training and education for being a better employee and more marketable therapist, they all seem to have their hands out! And from your posting, Minimum Wage is just too insulting to consider.

As for the quality of the Elemis training, I know what our techs went through for our spa was very valuable to them and was quite extensive. Very far from fluff and buff. Same goes for our estheticians.

And now three months later they are all getting another two days of training on new products and treatments.

And they will be paid. Minimum wage.

So I guess that puts us in the camp with Steiner.

Let's all start a chorus... "Down with Steiner, Down with R&R"

 

[Aundrea]

You did hit a nerve. It is not about offense, other than therapists seem to think employers are made of money. But I am curious what you think therapists should be pay to be trained?

I believe that everyone deserves to be compensated reasonably for their time and effort. Minimum wage is not fair compensation for anyone, including qualified professionals. If you want quality techs who will show loyalty, professionalism and effective work, you should expect to pay them for their abilities and their time. If this makes you unhappy, perhaps you are in the wrong business. I'm not saying that you are, only you can decide that for sure.

Let's all start a chorus... "Down with Steiner, Down with R&R"

Wow. Relax. I don't think anyone was talking about you. This was initially a discussion about Steiner, and remained that way until you took it personally. Honey, we're all in this together. Try to remember that.

Namaste,
Carole