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Today I had a consultation with a back specialist. It dawned on me that this might be a good way to document my experience for my own benefit as much as others. Hope this isn't an inappropriate way to use the forum!

Anyway, I saw the consultant this afternoon who was very nice and immediately felt at ease because he seemed to be in no hurry and wanted to get to know me. After a while we got onto my back pain which is basically as follows...

For about two years I've had varying levels of pain in my lower back. It first started just after I moved house and it seemed likely I'd over-strained myself moving boxes around (schoolboy error, I know!). So I had a few months of physio and it pretty much went away. After that on and off every few months it would start to ache and further physio would help.

In the past six months however no amount of the usual exercise and posture correction etc was helping with the increasing pain. It was only when I saw my GP for something else that he suggested I get it looked at by a specialist.

So that brings us to this afternoon, in short form at least. The consultant went over my complete medical history and asked lot about my lifestyle. Interestingly he asked me to score my pain six months ago and now on a 0-10 scale with 10 being unbearable. I said that six months ago it was a 2 or 3 but now it varies between 5 and 8, about as close an approximation I can think of.

So after examination he sent me for an MRI and once it came back he showed me the scans and compared upper levels to the lower levels where I've been feeling pain - guess what, even I could see there is something amiss!! A big bulge pushing onto my spinal cord...

We talked a lot about the rehab options available but knowing recent unsuccessful attempts to relieve the pain with structured exercise it doesn't seem like the best option. So we got onto the surgical option and he explained that a microdiscectomy is a good option for me (won't describe it again as it's been done here by others better than I can do!).

Well I now have a surgery date for Wednesday next week if I decide to go ahead. The consultant said I should think about it and talk to family and think about impact on work etc. It seems all stations go! So long as I can be away from work from Wednesday for a couple of weeks I'm probably going to confirm Wednesday with the hospital!

That probably covers it for now, shall sure let you all know when the date is once confirmed.

Olly.
 
As a back and spinal therapist I would have told you to go and see a specialist for an MRI as i am mobile, go for it and good luck, the opp is not as bad as it was 15 years ago and my mother has been in last week to have an opp just like yours and way out the next day ( she is 72) GOOD LUCK ALL WIL BE FINE
Mark
 
Hi,

Good luck for the surgey if you decide to go ahead with it.

I was just wondering if you have tried havind any reflexology? I had a client that had a serious prolapsed disc. Whilst I was training in Gentle Touch Reflexology I used her as one of my case studies. Her consultant was going to operate on her (he said that the operation he was going to perform was only carried out about 7 times a year) and she had before and after MRI scans and he could not believe the difference. She was fortunate enough to have a fantastic positive response. This was only after 5 or 6 treatments and he told her that what ever she had been doing, to carry on doing it!!
Nothing can be gauranteed as everyone responds differently, but something amazing happened to her! We have also had great results with sciatica in other clients!
Good luck whatever you decide.
Lisa x
 
Hi,

Thanks all. Lisa, I haven't tried reflexology. I thought about staying with the non-surgical route but the procedure I'm planning to have (microdisc) is commonly performed and the consultant I'm seeing carries out over two hundred per year, so I feel in good hands. I confirmed the surgery date today!

Mark - so glad for you that your mom is doing so well so soon, I hope that I can get up on the road to recovery that quickly!!

Olly.
 
Olly, if you look at the last week or so I have kept a sort of forum diary about my discectomy experience. I think writing about it has kept me sane this last few weeks.

I am now on day 7 after my surgery - full discectomy L4L5 - and I look forward to finding out how you get on with yours.

I think we are both in the same age group so I know exactly everything that you are going through. I will be 40 this year, married with one son and usually very fit.

Do a search on my posts and have a read. I think you wil find a massive range of emotions, regrets and successes already in my posts.

Please keep us in touch with your progress, and I wish you every bit of good luck in the world with your operation.
 
Hi Nico,

I will do, thanks! Discovered this morning the hospital has free wifi so I'll probably take the laptop in too and keep it real time if I can! Shall probably check back here tomorrow night as that's when I check in.

Olly.
 
Nico,

Just finished reading through your posts - that's a great story in the end. I'll be happy to suffer a few days' pain for a result like yours!!

Olly.
 
Well folks, I am now in bed in hospital ready for surgery tomorrow morning.

It's great - I feel much more relaxed than I ever thought I'd be. Perhaps it's credit to the smiling faces and helpfulness on the way in. Only minutes had passed before tea was ready, sitting watching tv. It wouldn't be entirely surprising to feel a little more anxious when I wake up tomorrow morning...

I now have my information leaflets and exercise instructions to read (i.e. learn thoroughly!) so that hopefully it all comes naturally after the operation. One thing I've realised is that I'm going to need a different chair in the office when I get back to work... my current one doesn't exactly promote the best posture, least of all following back surgery!

Anyway, wish me luck as I may not get back online until after the operation now. All goes well I'm be back here tomorrow afternoon to let you know how it feels.

Olly.
 
Well I've had the operation! Tried to get on here yesterday but had problems with my laptop.

Yesterday morning after some blood pressure and other test the anaesthetist came in to talk to me about the anaesthetic - it was very good to have everything explained so thoroughly before the operation. He told me about some of the risks, all of which are quite unlikely complications in reality and I fortunately don't have any pre-existing conditions that increase risk of complications. The anaesthetic I has was a general anaesthetic... I'm not sure if there are other options when having this kind of surgery - I can't remember discussing that.

The my surgeon came in and went through the procedure with me and once again potential risks associated with it and completed consent forms that sort of thing. Felt quite confident in decision to move forward with surgery after seeing him and the anaesthetist.

After he left I was attended to by the nurse who explained what would happen next. As I was first on the operating schedule she told me that it wouldn't be long to wait for the theatre team to call for me and within about half an hour she returned to say they were ready for me. She walked me (after offering a wheelchair, but I felt okay) to the theatre department where I was taken into the anaesthetic room (it seemed large enough to be the operating room!). I was introduced to the anaesthetic nurse I think who waiting with me and we chatted about everything but the operation before the anaesthetist came in a few minutes later. He then showed be some of the syringes and explained how the general anaesthetic would be given and laid me down on the table. It was so comforting to be handled with the care and attention they gave me.

He then hauled out the needle which was a little nerve racking but he had put some local anaesthetic on my skin before injecting the white stuff. I remember thinking the needle was larger than I'd expected but that's about all I remember before the anaesthetic kicked in!

I woke up from the anaesthetic in recovery about 15 minutes after leaving the operation room with no pain in my back. This was expected as I was told that I'd have some local anaesthetic injected during surgery and this would outlast the general anaesthetic. My consultant then came in to check on me and did an examination of my mobility and asked pain and numbness questions. After about an hour in recovery my nurse from earlier came to recovery and went through my chart and everything with the recovery nurse and with the help of a porter wheeled me on my bed back to my room.

I was luckily alright to eat and though was hungry was advised to take it easy on the food or risk nausea, but all was fine. After lunch I could feel the anaesthetic (local) wearing off and a little discomfort in my lower back but nothing like before! The physio I'd seen earlier in the day and who had given me the exercise sheets the day before came in... time for first steps apparently!! Anyway a walk up and down the corridor went without hitch and when she left me in my room afterwards I was encouraged to keep moving around so long as comfortable and call if sore or any concerns etc!

Not having any concerns I kept moving about and my girlfriend came by today after lunch just as mr Bowden was talking to me about my progress. He said that if I felt confident and pain free he was happy for me to be discharged... so I said great and promised to be back for physio appointments over the next few weeks and keep up the exercise in the meanwhile. So I'm back home and pain free but a bit achy so will be gently doing the exercises over the next few days and will have a physio appointment on Saturday.

Actually the physios were great too... tough but great. They are very strict and they clearly knew what is best for my recovery from surgery. The nurse came in later and told me to look on the website for a poem about the physios written by a former patient... I think you'll find this funny:

An Ode to those Physioterrorists (opens a PDF from the Oxford Clinic's website)

Very funny and quite true.

Anyway haven't had any major problems and seem to be doing well but it's early yet and I'm a bit nervous about overdoing it.

Hope this is useful/interesting in some way to you all!!

Olly.
 
Well done Olly - oh how I wish I had been given a micro!

But I am so glad that you have recovered quickly, and that it was a resounding success.

I am definitely on the mend, I have been working from home for the last week and a half, and I will be returning to my desk next week.

My staples come out next Tuesday, and I have my first Out Patient physiotherapy on Monday.

Again, well done, and good luck for the future!
 
Hi,

Thanks. It's much less achy than it was the other day.

Seeing the physio on Saturday was interesting - I had thought I was taking it relatively easy not wanting to undo the good work already done. The physio told me that I was overdoing things a little and should ease off for another week or so before moving up a gear. Feeling pretty good but really keen to do as I'm told so as not to risk doing any damage!

Has anyone done themselves harm after surgery from overdoing things? It would be great to know if there are things you'd advise me to avoid/try to remember etc. It is a worry, but maybe I'm just being silly!

Thanks. Olly.
 
Hi Olly,

I had my first physio appointment on Monday and I confessed everything including picking up my little boy, getting in the bath, driving etc.

I asked her the important question that you have asked: What damage can still be done?

The answer was related to the unknown length of time that it will take for the scar tissue to form between my vertebrae where the disc was removed. But I was told that the important things was to feel a stretch but not feel any real pain - this is to be the benchmark for everything. This included any lifting, stretching, bending, twisting etc. But driving - no more than 5 to 10 minutes per journey for at least another month, and definitely no sitting at my desk for more than 1 hour per session.

In truth I cannot really do any more damage because of the mass of ligaments and muscle surrounding the spine which holds it all together. But what I can hinder is the forming of the scar tissue and the growth/recovery of the muscles supporting all of my movement. So really I cannot lift anything heavy or do any exercise for the next 4/6 weeks with the exception of the physio exercises which need to be done 3 x per day.

So if this helps - take it easy and only do what you are told to do!

I hope you are well and on the mend!
 
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    ๐Ÿซฆ Noor & New Hot๐Ÿ”ฅ Girl Angela are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  29. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Suki ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  30. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: For Saturday November 16, 2024, our attendants will be Opal ๐Ÿค—, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜˜, Lucy ๐Ÿ˜, Ivy โค๏ธ and Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ Call 905-479-6668 to book and enjoy!
  31. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Freedom Fri ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL East & SL West, Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Aaliyah, Tina, Coco, Cici, JPN Yui, Super Happy, Echo, Selena & Dorisโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  32. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Slim Chinese Lisa, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  33. Newspring@:
    Nu spring spaโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy and hot โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅLatino ๐ŸŒธ Japanese๐ŸŒธ girls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐Ÿš—7-15 Karachi dr Markham
  34. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Friday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & a New Girl. CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. New Girl today apparently is very pretty, has good massage skills and good services. AMORE SPA
  35. Sparkling Spa:
    Sultry Nympho Susan is working at Sparkling Spa with Sexy Service Queen Zoe today. Real pictures of Susan & Zoe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏCall or text to book appointment ๐Ÿ“ฒ โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY
  36. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Slim Chinese Lisa, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  37. See You Health Center:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Lin Very Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Naturally very pretty face, โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  38. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Jennifer, Coco and Emily ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  39. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Persian girl & Asian girl today
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong
  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธMeiCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธBree Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  44. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Ella is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slim,Joey is very good looking,big breasted service queen,Amy is long hair provide a very good massage with...
  45. Fullssss:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๐Ÿˆต
  46. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mia & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj like a queen, and is open to dfk and cfs. Sasa is slim
  48. HolidaySpa:
    3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ LINA, YOYO & CINDY. [/color] Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. YOYO is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups and a very sexy figure. She provides the best versatile PSE services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a nice smile
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  50. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Phoenix , Nayla & Sasa are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
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