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Hopefully the answer to my query is not an obvious one, with lack of knowledge on my part...like, "DUH!" LOL.

Some background info: One of the horses I work on suffers from a painful L-severe degenerative stifle (would be our knee joint). I've been working on him once per week since December, and then twice per week since March. I combine therapeutic massage with Reiki.

I've just started doing some more intense work on him (which he's now allowing because we've built trust and a bond). So, I'm doing very light ROM and tapotement. Well, the amazing thing is that he tolerates the tapotement far better than even light palpation. He completely drops his head in relaxation. Even as I thump over his stifle.

My wondering is this: why does he tolerate levels of tapotement easier than light to medium palpation? I know what tapotement does but am wondering if the result has something to do with the superficial nerves. As in, it's less painful because it bypasses the superficial nerves, going deeper with the vibration of tapotement (?).

Anyone experience anything similar with a client that is a lot of pain? TIA for any insights.

*Edit: for typos
 


From my days training harness horses for racing - the horses my ex and I trained were generally lame, lazy, crazy, and broken down wrecks by the time we got them. SO, as a consequence I spent a great deal of time with my hands all over the critters healing what I could in whatever manner they would allow. Most of that entailed tapping, slapping, heavy friction on legs, hocks, hips and stifles. For me, it worked and they all responded well both physically and on the track.

One of the things all of them seemed to enjoy the most was tapping. It stimulates the blood flow and does it without thoroughly "lighting up" the sensitive nerves in the areas of injury. Plus, the horses I worked on would tend to appreciate a more equine touch - they just don't do loving strokes and generally kneading to one another when they are allowed to care for one another in a herd type situation.

Hope that helps.

J
 


Thanks, AnastasiaB! I could easily repsond to your great reply in more depth but I would end up hijacking my own topic into something that needs to be posted in the animal therapies section. :lol:

The horse I'm referencing is a Standardbred rescue and has not had the best human experiences prior to his current existance. I'd love to chat with you more about your knowledge. I do understand, though, from your reply that the horses you worked with preferred more of an equine touch which includes tapping (vibration/tapotement). Many humble thank yous.

I'm actually doing tapotement on the painfully diseased joint area - which he is tolerating better than therapeutic palpatory strokes - do you think it bypasses superficial nerves?

Since I'm asking about taptement in regard to clients that are in pain (not just specific to horses or other animals), and the possible relation to superficial nerves, I'll behave and wait in hopes of more replies. :roll:
 


maybe the rhythmic resonance is some form of cell-memory, like a heartbeat in the womb kind of thing......


oooooh, i'm stretchin here now :smt102 :mrgreen:
 


Dependent on the length of time tapping is done, it can have a numbing effect on the nerves in the area, thus a decrease in pain - also an increase in circulation thus decreasing inflammation - applies for humans as well as critters.
 


mush said:
oooooh, i'm stretchin here now :smt102 :mrgreen:
:mrgreen: ...thanks!

AnastasiaB said:
Dependent on the length of time tapping is done, it can have a numbing effect on the nerves in the area...
Hey thanks, that sounds logical.

In this particular case, I'm not doing tapotement in one area for any length of time (applying and moving along at a nice & easy pace, from head to hoof)...spending the same amount of tapotement time on the stifle as I do the rest of the body. The key is that it really seems to have an instant overall relaxing effect for him (even over the injury).

In contrast, I have other horse clients that are not in-love with tapotement.

Maybe it has something to do with bodies that are in their head a lot (intelligent, over thinking and possibly worriers)...sort of interrupting that brain nerve communication function temporarily. I don't know...now I'm stretchin' here, LOL. :P
 


This is very interesting. I have somewhat similar observations about tapotement. And I have wondered about them...

I do massage on approximately 12 children a month. They are in a medically fragile children's unit of a long-term care facility of a hospital. Most of the children there, and all the children I work on, have either had traumatic brain injuries or have severe Cerebral Palsey. They have extremely limited verbal communication; virtually no words, some laugh. I have observed that they all can show pleasure/displeasure by smiling, laughing, relaxing, moaning or pulling away/grimacing/crying/seizing.

They all love tapotement. And a majority respond more positively to it than anything else.
The thing that makes tapotement different from other massage strokes is the rythm and resonance/percussive vibration. So, I don't know the why, but I have certainly made a similar observation.

Noel
 
Thanks!

Thanks, seekingequanimity. What amazing work you are doing! I'm glad to know I'm not the only who is finding the same response to tapotement in similar situations. You've inspired me to delve into this a little deeper...will continue my research further.
 


Kindred & Seeking,

Cool experiences for both of you. Seeking, my autistice client for whom I do primarily craniosacral LOVES tapping, cupping, and slapping when he's in the mood. [Adult male, 59, autistic since age 5, blind since age 8]. He takes hold of my hands and "flaps them up and down over the top of his chest until I comply with one of the above techniques. The grin and giggles I get from him are so utterly fabulous because I know it's what he wants.

Sorry if that hijacked the thread.....
 


Cool experience for you, too, AnastasiaB...thanks for sharing, that's awesome...you've just added more fuel to my tapotement fire!

No apologies necessary, I don't think you hijacked, lol. :)
 


Got me a Bonger...oooooo, creates fabulous tapotement! ...usually come in pairs, I know, but one - and only one - was gifted to me. I'm gonna have to invest in a pair now. :smt023
 


Great discussion, you guys are making me re-think tapotement.
I have slowly drifted towards mostly slow deep kneading.
Almost completely abandoning percussives, thinking that it was irritating and only for pre exercise use..

Good one :)
 


A second Thank You!

I got away from tapotement in the spa setting because one of my fellow therapists said it isn't appropriate...now I know that she wasn't necessarily on base about more than just tapotement - but that is another story.

Anyway, I am going to reintroduce it into my work...

Thanks again...the thread just keeps living on ;0)
 
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    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white cream skin, pretty face, can bbbj cim dfk 69 cof sf2, available all services, excellent treatment. KITTY is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business.
  36. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (2PM), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PM), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  37. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  38. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (12PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (2PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  40. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: :wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica sexy body,deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily Q,friendly,amazing massage,happy the end,really popular,must tryโค๏ธ
  41. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธNadia๐ŸŒธAnna Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKelly๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile.
  47. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Thursday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Vicky ๐Ÿฅณ, Sophie ๐Ÿค— and Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  48. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Top notch wellness: Ella , elena, Angela, Michelle, gabby , and Vanna. Call us now to make your appointment. 437-522-9961
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s open mind and young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open min, young popular kitty 26โ€™s with curve body and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Judy and Kiki. They are young and beautiful, cute and sexy. Deep tissue massage and relaxation massage are both great. Back walking is very comfortable. They have sweet smiles and work seriously. If you are tired from work, come and make an appointment!๐Ÿค—

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