TAXES- going to be working for myself soon- in WI

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I am going from being an employee to renting a massage room. I am going to be a sole proprietor. I am also going to be retailing some items, and have applied for a seller's permit.

I was wondering if anyone had suggestions for books to read, or online sources for what I can and cannot deduct?
Suggestions for tax software?
What tax forms will I need? W- what? W-4?

Thanks for any input :)
 


I went to the IRS website and found this so far

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=98202,00.html
 


There are few no-matter-what's when you work for yourself, but this is one of them: get a good CPA, and never skimp! If they're good, they'll save you much more than you pay them (but pay them well). Also, get used to saving all your receipts--even if you don't THINK you'll be able to write something off, toss it in a manilla envelope anyway, labeled "2007 receipts" and sort it out later. You never know what you'll learn as time passes, and you'd hate to throw something away that you could've used to save yourself money!

What you can write off? Here's what I write off (not an exhaustive list, but just some examples) : the square fooeforum.xxxe (and the appropriate utility ratio) devoted to client space, the computers & printers & software, all office supplies, related vehicle mileage, CDs, oils, sheets, all massage clothing, pamphlets, charts, CEUs, textbooks and other industry-related books, incense, candles, bolsters, pillows, (don't forget your table, your stereo, or your chair if you do chair massage!), credit card machine, website expenses (building, maintaining, domain registration, email services, Constant Contact-type services, etc). And don't forget entertainment and eating out expenses, too. (I also write off healthcare expenses, like dental work, chiropractic, massage therapy, and vitamin supplements my chiropractor prescribes.)

I skip the software. It doesn't compare to a real live expert who becomes familiar with the in's and out's of your individual situation, and it might overlook something!

Tax forms: no W-anything! :) You'll probably file a 1040 (not the EZ form, though) and a Schedule C for self-employement. If you're an independent contractor, the facility you work in will furnish you a 1099 by the end of January. If you're actually your own one-person show, there's no 1099.

Good luck!! You can do it!
Hugs,
~Jyoti
 


Hi moose-goose. I use an accountant. To save $$$ I save all my receipts IF I ever get audited, but instead of giving them to the accounatnt to sort them out, I keep track of my expenses in an Excel spreadsheet. Date, how much, what item it was (sheets, CD etc.), where I bought it, category (fixed assets, supplies etc.) and payment method (cash, check, Visa). My accountant likes it and I don't have to pay for his time to go thru the receipts.
I have several spreadsheets. Expenses, Mileage, Meals etc.
 


Anastasia said:
Hi moose-goose. I use an accountant. To save $$$ I save all my receipts IF I ever get audited, but instead of giving them to the accounatnt to sort them out, I keep track of my expenses in an Excel spreadsheet. Date, how much, what item it was (sheets, CD etc.), where I bought it, category (fixed assets, supplies etc.) and payment method (cash, check, Visa). My accountant likes it and I don't have to pay for his time to go thru the receipts.
I have several spreadsheets. Expenses, Mileage, Meals etc.

Thanks for your help :)
 


I do what Anastasia does. I pay under $100 at tax time, but have the accountant fill out the forms and file for me. I give her all the info and keep my book through the year, and keep all receipts. Mine are in envelopes sorted by month, and I just enter the info and file as I make purchases/payments. Though occasionally I get behind and have to play catch up, it is not hard to stay on top of. I just get lazy, I guess. :oops:
 


I talked to my boyfriend's father, who works for the IRS in WI. Many things I was told were tax deductible by other MTs are not according to HIS boss. Clothing is not, unless you work in health care and must wear scrubs. Pedicures are not (I do ashiatsu and soft feet with trimmed nails are extremely important!). Computers are deductible depending on how much time is spent doing work-related stuff compared to anything else. So if you have a computer that is ONLY for work, you can deduct 100%. If it's also your home computer, you need to figure out how much time is personal and how much is work and deduct accordingly. If you get audited, they will ask. I'm not sure about healthcare costs - I'll have to ask. You can use entertainment/dining, but if you're audited, they'll most likely ask you why you'd have expenses like that, and as a massage therapist it may raise some red flags. (I'm just telling you the info that was passed down to me by someone fairly high up within the IRS.)

I have an MT friend who listed off a bunch of items that her accountant was using as a deduction for her, which, according to my boyfriend's dad, are definitely not ok to use as a deduction. Just because your accountant says it's ok, doesn't necessarily mean it really is. Unfortunately you can't plead ignorance if you get audited.

What a pain.

If anyone comes across a list of what IS acceptable (especially in WI), please let us know... I'm curious too...
 


The reason nail care is not expensable is it also can masquerade as every day personal care expenses. YOu have to show something is 100% for business reasons in order to survive an audit.

There is a lot of misinformation out there - even in accounting circles - about what is deductible or not.

You are better off asking a CPA to set up a chart of accounts for you, and some guidelines for what to include in each to make things easier.

While the advise here is often good, when it comes to taxes, take your advise from someone who will show up at your audit, should it ever come to that.
 


I do Ashiatsu, too, and I was able to write off a pedicure before my class b/c it was a class requirement. They said they'd send us home w/o a pedicure. Normally I do my own pedis and manis(I am very handy) so I did not know we couldn't do that.

Also, if I take a class and I need to experience the new modality, I get a session. I did it for Ashiatsu and Thai massage and I was able to write it off as well as a part of the class.

I also wrote off my Ashi wear as advertisement (it has an Ashiatsu logo). Same with my business T shirts.

I wasn't able to write off a gym membership even though I found a lot of clients there.

My accountant is pretty strict but better safe than sorry.
 


Anastasia, your deductions make sense. The other MT who was listing off all sorts of things her accountant uses as a deduction for her included *any* clothes that she wears while giving massages (comfy pants, tennis shoes, etc.), hair cuts ("because we need to have a professional appearance"), manicures (can't be scratching and poking people!), etc.

R&R is right in that you need to show that something is for business reasons in order to survive an audit. I just wish there were some general guidelines for people in our profession. Talking to my boyfriend's dad, it seems as if they can get INCREDIBLY nit-picky during an audit, so you're right - better to be safe than sorry.
 


When I worked at a bank years ago a coworker made a comment that the IRS should allow women to write off pantyhose as it's a required "accessory" and we go through so many pairs.
Being an MT now I wish they'd let us write off clothes! Fat chance. I wrecked so many pants and shirts - I somehow manage to get oil splatters on them and they don't always come off or trying to get it off with dish soap leaves a stain. And I wear an apron as well.
 
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    Sasa is working at Sparkling Spa with Zoe today Tuesday November 5th. Real pictures of Sasa & Zoe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏCall or text to book appointment ๐Ÿ“ฒ โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the official schedule for AMORE SPA: (Korean Ashley hasn't been here for AGES. The old confused imposter doesn't realize he has lost another customer, and continues to post errors and incorrect pics). Tuesday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY(10AM-11pm) & Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face
  40. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Anika , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  41. ASPA:
    TUESDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Best Massage Rachel, & Wendy ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4โ€ tall with nice responsive 34Cโ€™s and a captivating smooth rounded bottom. She is popular for her excellent massage skills and a little extra.
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: CICI, CINDY & JENNY. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, MIMI & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services.
  45. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5โ€™2โ€tall . 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  46. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Great BBBJ, CIM, GFE in Her menu Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  47. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  48. Sunrise Health Centre:
    Tiana & Noor are here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30โ€™s open mind with big buttocks and young Cute Mia 25โ€™s , pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
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