Treating a client with MS

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I am interested in any and all suggestions or comments regarding working with clients who have MS. I have a 32 year old male I am treating weekly and I want to be as effective as I can be. I have treated clients with this malady before but it was usually in the later seforum.xxxes of the disease where they are wheelchair bound and I have to pick them up out of their chairs and put them on the table. This young man is still ambulatory but his legs are getting weak. He responds to what I do but I just want to know if anyone has found an effective way to address this in their own work.

I am currently using assisted stretching, various massage modalities and CST and he has success with this but it's usually short term success. I am eager to hear any other suggestions or experiences.

Thank you.
 


I have not worked with someone with MS. Do you have the book Clinical Massage Therapy by Rattray & Ludwig? If not and you would like the information, PM me and I will fax it to you.
 


elsewhere said:
Thank you. Great recommendation!

Yowza!!! It ain't cheap though!

lol, noooo, it ain't cheap ~ but it is a very valuable resource.

For those unfamiliar with the book, the subtitle is, "Understanding, assessing and treating over 70 conditions." I found it a blessing when I did my case study on a client with Spinal Cord Injury, and have referred to it often during my career.
 
Treating a client with MS

elsewhere said:
I am currently using assisted stretching, various massage modalities and CST and he has success with this but it's usually short term success. I am eager to hear any other suggestions or experiences.

Thank you.

From my reading on MS and fitness therapy it sounds like you are on the right course for this client. My source recommends "PNF techniques...as a primary means of restoration and function."

I know a woman with MS, I see her maybe once or twice a year when she visits the area, but she gets regular massage in her hometown. Along with her fabulous meds, she also does yoga three times a week and cardio. So I don't have anything experience wise to share. Except to say that she is doing great with her maintenance of massage, yoga, cardio and meds...and naps when she needs them.

So I wonder, is your client doing anything outside of massage to maintain the work?
 
Treating a client with MS

tribute said:
So I wonder, is your client doing anything outside of massage to maintain the work?

Thanks for your question. He leads a very busy life with two young sons aged 1 and 3. He's a really good Dad but I don't think he has much time left for himself. I do have him swimming though and he says that is helping him. Yoga makes sense. I will mention it to him.
 


I totally get the busy factor. If your client can learn some yoga poses that would be good to keep up strength and balance, I bet his kids would LOVE doing yoga with him at home. My son loves it when I start doing yoga. He does it with me. Your clients kids are perfect ages, my son is 3 as well and has been watching me do yoga for the past two years.

Swimming was another great recommendation for exercise. I think you are on the right track. It would be interesting to hear anyone else's experience with MS clients.
 


Exercise is the only way for MS clients to retain the strength and motor control they need to avoid/delay being wheelchair-dependent. One of my personal training clients has had MS for over 20 years. It's been a serious battle for her for a long time, but she's still ambulatory. She wrote a short success story which can be read here: http://cstminnesota.com/5.html#susan

Since writing that story, Susan has returned to her writing and given some local readings - things she hadn't done for years. Though MS presents a number of challenges to remaining active, she continues to train with me, and is continuing to improve her balance, strength, and overall capabilities.

Since MS involves demyelinization of the nerves, the fatigue described by so many folks with MS is neurological rather than muscular in nature. Fine motor control and proprioception are early victims, while gross strength in simple movements can easily be maintained or even regained for many years. Balance is further challenged by increasingly poor posture.

I have found AIS stretching to be very safe and effective, and AIS has a wealth of strengthening exercises (see the book at http://www.stretchingusa.com) that work well. Occasionally, performing positional release techniques helps relax overactive muscles, enabling their aneforum.xxxonists to function more effectively by reducing reciprocal inhibition. PRT performed before stretching may make it easier to lengthen chronically tight tissues.

With advanced MS, it is also common to have a certain "mental fog" that impacts memory, cognition, etc. to some extent. Susan is a sharp lady, but she has found some mental tasks more challenging than they used to be. I don't know how much of this is due to neurological changes vs changes in level of daily mental and physical stimulation as personal activity levels and routines change. In any case, Susan has reviewed that her family and friends have commented on various perceived improvements in her memory, problem-solving, writing, comprehending, and other mental skills.

One thing I've found extraordinarily helpful for Susan: Intu-Flow (more info here: http://www.profcs.com/app/?Clk=2217683)

Intu-Flow is a simple follow-along program of light mobility exercises designed to help release excess tension and restore lost joint mobility from head to toe. It includes instruction in simple breathing drills and balance exercises that pretty much anyone can follow, and it's completely compatible with yoga, tai chi, and other mindful exercise practice. As Susan has worked with Intu-Flow, she has regained mobility throughout her body and become much more aware of her body. Though her proprioception is still impaired, she is developing improved sub-conscious awareness and control. At first, she was stumbling from one machine to another, and now she's becoming adept at using her mini-Clubbells to perform complex full-body exercises. It has been an amazing process!

MS clients need light, stimulating exercise that challenges their coordination. In working to master such exercises, they will see tremendous carryover to simpler tasks. Heavier, strength-oriented tasks should be simple and work a wide variety of muscle groups, with some light coordination drills practiced as well. Single sets of many reps tend to fatigue the CNS too quickly, while multiple sets of 5-8 reps (with short breaks between) permit greater CNS recovery and better endurance during an exercise session.

Since some MS clients have difficulty with sweating and may overheat easily, swimming and water aerobics are good options. It's important that trainers and clients be prepared to simply let things cool down now and then during a workout. This makes it very challenging to develop aerobic capacity, but it's possible.

Hope that helps!
 


Jason that was wonderful information. Thank you for taking the time to share it.

I remember reading about your client Susan on your website some time ago and was very impressed with the passion with which she dealt with her situation. You did an amazing job with her.

So far it sounds like as far as the body work goes I am pretty much on the same page with everyone. I'm combining techniques and adapting each week as he seems to have fluctuating symptoms. Thanks for the reminder about the fatigue being more nerve related than muscular. He responds really well to the stretching. My attempts to utilize AIS are mitigated by the fact that the only time I can see this guy is Sunday at 8 or 9 p.m. This is his request as he has a crazy schedule. He is usually so tired by the time I get him a lot of what I do has to be adjusted accordingly so it limits some of the techniques I can use.

I usually end the session doing about 40 minutes of un-windings (I work on him for 2 hours) which he responds to really well. He works out at Equinox Gym but I am not sure about his exercise routine but I do have him swimming for 3 weeks now. There is such good advice in your post I will probably just send it to him.

I have had MS clients before but much more advanced cases where I'd have to take them out of their wheelchair and gently lift onto the table. This guy is young, still ambulatory, a wonderful father and husband and one of those kind of people that you want to go above and beyond to the call of duty for.

So thanks everybody for your help. Even those that PM-ed me with great advice. Much appreciated.
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Rose๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ˜˜An enchanting and skilled new Asian massage girl, known for her calming presence and soothing touch. With long, silky dark hair and delicate features, Rose exudes an aura of serenity and grace. As she gently guides you thro
  34. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Brazilian girl 23ys curvy body &new Asian girl today
  35. wonderspa:
    . ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,if you need to find a comfortable place to revive your body rexlaing come visit us.4beautiful attendants ,Today and tomorrow RMT available,sexy very young girl Mimi,natural c cup,very good looking ๐Ÿ˜ปTina ,open mind she knows what do you want,๐Ÿ’„very friendly Lucy nice smiling very popular must try๐Ÿ˜ป๐Ÿท
  36. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  37. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the only official schedule for AMORE SPA: Tuesday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY(10AM-11pm) & Tiny Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. Tiny LALA is unbelievably good
  38. ASPA:
    TUESDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Best Massage Rachel, & Wendy ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4โ€ tall with nice responsive 34Cโ€™s and a captivating smooth rounded bottom. She is popular for her excellent massage skills and a little extra.
  39. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy with big buttocks 30โ€™s open mind and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, cute GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North Yo
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: CICI, CINDY & JENNY. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, MIMI & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range
  43. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5โ€™2โ€tall . 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  44. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Great BBBJ, CIM, GFE in Her menu Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  45. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธKandy๐ŸŒธJazmin Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  46. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธCamilaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  48. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: For Tuesday November 12, 2024, our attendants will be Ada โค๏ธ, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Yoyo ๐Ÿคฉ, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜ and Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ Call us at 905-479-6668 to book your favourite!
  49. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo has joined Angela & Noor for the evening ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  50. Newspring@:
    Nu spring spa โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot Latino ๐ŸŒธSingapore ๐ŸŒธKorean girls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ7-15 Karachi dr Markham
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