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Hi Friends,I am looking for some massage on tight ext rotators of the shoulder on my one side (shortened).What type of massage would you recommend for this?  There are too many types to choose from it is confusing me! Deep Tissue, sports, swedish, active release, etc.I have heard about some massage where the therapist grips the ext rotators and the patient moves their arm effectively stretching the muscle under their grip.  What sort of the massage is this?Thanks for your time!  :)Richard
 
Type of Massage for this problem?

Sounds to me like you're talking about a pin and stretch, where the therapist shortens the muscle, pins it, and then passively moves the client to lengthen the muscle while it's pinned down.
 
Type of Massage for this problem?

Hi Knead-u,What sort of massage is it or is it a standard technique in all types of massage?cheersRichard
 
Ricardo -I am assuming by your statement that you are a potential client looking for information to help your shoulder from a massage therapist.If so my suggestion is that you explain your problem to your therapist on the phone, requesting a therapeutic massage.  I would ask the therapist if they have experience with working on frozen shoulders (even though yours might not be one at this point but may lead to it), and is skilled in trigger point work, myofacial release, and active release will work as well.  If you want to learn how to properly stretch the muscles, ask them if they know how to do PNF (proprioceptive neuromuscular facilitation), to help retrain the muscles at the proper length.Treatment also depends upon whether or not this is a chronic condition, over-use injury, or something acute.  Have you seen an orthopedist for this problem?  just things to consider.
 
Hi Muriel,Thanks for the reply.Yes that is right I am a potential client looking for information to help my shoulder from a massage therapist.I have seen an orhtapedist, have been MRI'd (all fine) and I am currently doing PNF stretches for the area.  I am looking to compliment this with some kind of massage therapy that also stretches the muscles and connective tissues.   I am trying to gain an understanding of the type of therapy to look for and some of the questions to ask the therapist to make sure I get someone who knows what they are talking about.  Would the trigger point work, myofacial release and active release be suitable for this?One thing you mention, the muscles have become shortened through repetive sporting activity, it is therefore I presume chronic (a number of years) and is an overuse injury.  Could you tell me how do these things affect the treatment please Muriel?Thanks again  :)Richard
 
Type of Massage for this problem?

It's sad that you have to test the therapist to make sure they know what they are doing. You must have had a bad experience if you feel you can't trust any massage therapist (in your area) to know how to do their job. I have no problem referring a prospective client elsewhere if I can't help them. I guess you haven't been fortunate enough to experience these ethics from M.T.'s in your neck of the woods.Hope you get connected with a good M.T.Be well,Jen
 
Hi Jen,Thanks for the reply  :).I like to research problems as thoroughly as possible and love to ask lots of questions!  I find massage really interesting and have considered studying it for quite a while.I have had a few health problems which as shown me that it does not hurt to know as much as you can about your condition.  Also when you are finding a practitioner (not specifically a MT but any health practioner) it is good to keep an open mind as there are some good ones and some not so good.  I suppose the same goes in all walks of life, for instance car mechanics, martial arts teachers, etc.Any way thanks again and if anyone else has anymore input please post a message!kind regardsRichard
 
Type of Massage for this problem?

just some general advice. Ask the therapist if they customize their therapies & tailor them to specific client needs. This should lead them to ask you what in particular you are looking for.good luck, I'll know you'll find the right therapist for you.Jill/Sagetherapist
 
Pin and stretch is a PNF technique (Pandoras_Gift mentioned PNF).The problem with your question is that it may not be "the XYZ technique" that solves your problem - your therapist may need to utilize several different techniques to achieve results.  You might even find that the therapist you choose has come up with his or her own technique that is very effective, as many experienced therapists do.  If you feel comfortable doing so, maybe you could mention what area you live in (city/state)?  You might even find a therapist here who can help you.  If not, then I would suggest calling some therapists and asking the questions Pandoras_Gift mentioned.  Don't get too hung up on modalities (techniques) - in the end it doesn't matter what they call it, as long as it helps!Good luck!  Let us know how it turns out.  ;D
 
 Richard, I'm sure there are some good massage therapists where you live.  It's understandable you have a desire to take active participation in your life.   Why should you have to tell your massage therapist what to do?  They are trained to aid in the healing process of the musculature.  When you go to a massage therapist they should be able to explain to you the plan of action.  Ask your orthopedic surgeon, physician and/or chiroprator if they can refer you to a massage therapist.    
 
Type of Massage for this problem?

Richard, Another thought (as I now see in an "after-read", knead-u also mentioned), you could let us know where you are located and possibly one of us knows someone who may be a probable and potential therapist in you area.  I for one, keep a roladex of a number of good therapists and chiropractors all over the states and in a few other countries.  I am betting others of us here do too.It may help to find a potential therapist a lot quicker and save you a little money, so you don't have to try sooo many in order to get someone good.Just a thought.
 
Hi all,Thanks for the replies.Texas-Gal & Knead-U thanks.  Unfortunately I don't live in the States, I live in Birmingham in the U.K., but if you do know anyone over here (might be a long shot) that would be great.Thanks and regardsRichard
 
fozzyo is in the UK, but I don't know where in relation to you. (you could look in his profile, it's listed there.)Maybe now that you've said where you are, someone who lives near you will see it and speak up....here's hoping!   ;D
 
Type of Massage for this problem?

Another good question to ask your potential therapist is how long they have been in practice. I for one have only been in practice for about a year, and while I specialize in back, neck, and shoulder work, I would completely understand if you wanted to see someone who has been in practice longer, with more experience. In fact, if that were the case, I would probably refer you to a great therapist in the area that I'm sure would help you out. I'm sure there are many great therapists that are fresh out of school, but you may want to find someone with more experience in your specific ailment.
 
Type of Massage for this problem?

Along the lines of what knead-u and Texas-gal have said, there is an area of this board for MT's looking for work. You might possibly find someone in your area there.I think it's great that you are doing research ahead of time. It shows a level of self-motivation that should help you while working with whichever type of health practitioner you decide to go with.
 
Type of Massage for this problem?

Hi,Thanks Knead-u, Seforum.xxxgnant & merlescuz.Seforum.xxxgnant - Yes, great I will take that on-board.Merlescuz - Thanks for your positive comments!regardsRichard
 
Type of Massage for this problem?

Also, there is another forum that has a few people in the UK.  I know of a very good therapist in Germany, but that doesn't help you.... I'll get the other link in a bit. :)

Here ya go... I think there are one or two on here.

http://www.massageresource.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi

And there is a massage forum that is more geared to the UK, I have on my comp at home.  Will post it here later tonight or tomorrow, and maybe you can find a few good ones there.

----- And, I am adding it now...

http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tt.asp?forumid=82

:D
 
Type of Massage for this problem?

Hi.  Just wanted to pass on that we have a new member who has posted in the Swap & Trade Forum who is from the UK.  Possibly this therapist is someone who is knowledgeable and in your region.  Just wanted to give you a heads up, for what it may or may not be worth.

Name: miludog
http://www.bodyworkonline.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1394

Thread: http://www.bodyworkonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1841
 
Type of Massage for this problem?

Hi Texas-Gal,Thanks for the additional websites and the additional contact! I will check them out,Thanks again :-) ,Richard
 
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