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...motherhood as a career choice ? I'm not completely heartless and yes anyone can make a mistake but I can't understand why in this country we reward people for making the same mistake over an over again .

My suggestion is that there should be no increase in benefits for having more than one child and in fact having a second child that you can not support financially should be made a criminal offence with a mandatory sentence of sterilisation .

If someone is too stupid to use contraception then surely they are too stupid to be a parent .
Punk Rock ; It is the woman that is left with the baby so it is up to her to ensure controception is used and even if there's a mistake abortion is free .

I would agree though that men who go around making woman after woman pregnant should be sterilised too .
Katie B ; You've completely missed the point . I'm not talking about people like you , I'm talking about young women that become single parents deliberatly to gain accomidation and benefits and then continue to have more and more children because they're completely irrasponsable human beings .
 
The UK already has too much control over people's private lives, so criminalizing something that is none of your business is not the right thing to do, but reducing welfare benefits is common sense, in fact, I don't think women should get any money for any children at all.
 
we need strict morality , our society is morally decadant thats why we have so many problems.
 
i agree, but i think if you cannot afford children then you do not have them and take the precautions to ensure this. All that is happening is these scum are breeding more children that will no doubt tread the same path as their intellectually stunted parent. In some of these areas you have grandmothers who are 30 and great grandmothers in the mid 40's.

Again i believe we have too much freedom in this nation. Things need to change and the way this would be done would be harsh in the short term but will stop the problems in the future.
 
I suppose because you think females get pregnant "all by themselves"... A man can use a condom. To be fair, start with castration.
 
You dont legislate these issues, you educate. You would advocate incriminating pregnancy...
 
Care and support should be given to the natives first, i don't understand how economic migrant women allow themselves to get pregnant. The idiocy of it going to a foreign country and getting pregnant. Romanian gypsies are just baby making machines. I'm sick of seeing locals heavily pregnant pushing a double pram and all this by the age of 20 but economic migrants should be dissuaded from having kids at all. If they do fall pregnant they should be sent home
 
increased benefits? Are all brits on welfare? MY wife stays at home and takes care of the house and our children. I get on "benefit" other than to pay $25K per year in taxes so that liberal crack head "housewives" (with no husband) can sit around smoking crack and drinking liquor they bought by selling their kids food stamps while they get ready to have their 12th child form the 9th different man.
 
I agree your not completely heartless just 98.9% heartless.
 
Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?

Only kidding. I think more effective would be to bring back the social stigma attached to having children out of wedlock. Make people outcasts for having b******s and there'll be less of them.
 
You fail to take into account the fact that unless you are a millionaire most people struggle to afford to have children.

I have 2, obviously I was married to their Father but when he became a work shy layabout I had to fend for myself and my kids.

I work full time, look after them best I can. What we lack in money we make up for in love and not being rich doesn't prevent me from raising them with values and morals.

But can I afford them? Hell No!! Should I be sterilised? Hell no!!

I wouldn't have another one anyway for that reason but if I chose to, I would bear that responsibility myself, as I have already done twice.
 
In this country you have a legal financial responsibility for any children you have until they are 16. Therefore, it is my opinion that if you have a child, if you are on benefits you obviously cannot fill this obligation without having to claim extra money from the taxpayer, and should have your child removed and taken into care, or given into the care of another family member who can afford to look after it.
Perhaps that way people wouldn't have a child just to get a better council flat or more benefits. Did you hear that guy who runs Asda saying about how they find baby's nappies and food and stuff dumped in the booze aisle, as people decide they'd rather spend their money on drink than on their kids? We have some serious problems in this country, and sorting out the benefits system so that it doesn't encourage people to have kids they can't support (who are more likely to then themselves go on to live on benefits all their lives) would be a good step in the right direction.
 
I think we should encourage marriage and childrearing on a government level. That would drive liberals crazy, at least.
 
The object of the exercise is to end child poverty. Benefits are given to anyone looking after a child whether they do so as a couple, a single teenager, a foster carer or whatever. There has been talk of bringing back residential homes for single mothers who cannot support their children - but I'm sure it will all be quietly forgotten after the next election (and when they've worked out the cost).
 
I'm with you on this one.

The taxpayer in this country shells out enough for those who genuinely need help - to then have to dig even deeper for those who see it as a career option is an insult to intelligence.

Benefit payments next year will account for 1/3rd of public spending, that's around รƒโ€šร‚ยฃ193 billion. Then the rest of us wonder why the country's skint and the Government will need to borrow รƒโ€šร‚ยฃ200 billion to make ends meet next year alone.
 
I can't see how legislation will stop pregnancy, however, if NO benefits at all were available for the first child, it might make a lot of youngsters think twice about the possible consequences. If you can't afford kids, don''t have them until you can. I am sick and tired of my taxes being used to pay for children being produced by children.
 
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    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Sasa ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julie ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  35. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  36. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: EMILY (1pm-9pm): is a NEWLY ARRIVED Vietnamese girl, young, slim, small petite body, natural C Cups, cute pink nipples, 155Cms, 97Lgx, tight pu88s (never had babies), all size banana will be wrapped so tight. Emily has a pretty face, long hair, excellent services bbbj rim cim dfik 69, no rush.
  37. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Slim Sexy Mixed Singaporean/Thai Kylie, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye
  38. HollywoodSpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: NICOLE & SISI. โ˜Ž๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฐโ˜Ž NICOLE is petite, slim and very pretty, with C Cups , long hair & a slim waist. She has nice massage and great services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™2โ€, with a beauty ass, excellent massage, and amazing services. Come and see why she is so popular. ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ
  39. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  40. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy black girl, only 53 Kgs, with nice boobs and ass, very versatile services. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll
  41. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy black girl, only 53 Kgs, with nice boobs and ass, very versatile services. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll
  42. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young new pretty student Kitty slime 25โ€™s and cute Emma with curve body 30โ€™s, sweet Ella and fun GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  43. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 11 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ PAOLA, AMMU, KIRAN, NINA, SUMMER, MONICA, ANGEL, PREETI, NISHA๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  44. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Suki and Niok work
  45. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time
  46. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Wednesday March 5, 2025, our attendants will be Opal ๐Ÿค—, Cici ๐Ÿฅฐ, Sandy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Yoyo ๐Ÿ”ฅ and Carla ๐Ÿ‘ Call 905-479-6668 to book!
  47. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bella ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  48. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Cherry , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Anika ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Selena ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต
  49. New spring spa@:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Philippine ๐Ÿ’– ๐Ÿ’– Japanese ๐Ÿ’– ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  50. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ ANIKA, ELENA and SUSU are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
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