Up Selling at New fantasy

[Gouki Mayne]

Guess there is a first time for everything....

Afer getting unpacked decided wanted a BBBJCIM to relieve the stress of a long journey to paridise. Into New Fantasy about 4pm Monday 4/30
looking for Trianny or Rachel but neither available. About 8 other chicas on deck. Got the " good look" from a tall Tica ( Think her name Benesa) and did the interview... told her what was on my menu ...no problem and off to the room with a smile.. Wanted a shower first to be more comfortable after traveling and back to room for a few minutes of warm up.

Then the "Sale" began... Benesa reaches over to table, grabs a condom, and says..." Con Condom !!" OK.. herre we go.. told her NO sin Condom mi no me gusta condom y no es cual hablamos antes... she starts some shit about safer with a condom because maybe there are some germs and she ALWAYS uses a condom... I tell her no... THEN SHE SAYS..
BJ sin condom para 10K mas... Well knew this was now a dead deal as my mood had changed with all this "up selling" so I ask her how the 10K is going to protect us from the "germs"... funny look in her eyes as maybe she had never been asked that question....

Told her that It was time for me to leave, which she lightheartily say...OK..

I put on my pants and tell her... venga conmigo para hablar con su jefe..
.... out the door..down the stairs and intto the the exit hallway near the front desk. She starts telling the desk gal her story in rapid fire spanish..had a hard time keeping up with here but understood her to say something about " I had changed my mind".... at which point I jumped in & told the gal that I'd been coming to New Fantasy since they first opened the door and i had NEVER been asked for more money in the room the chica and i was not going to pay 10K more for what I'd all ready paid for... when on to tell story about con condom porque "germs"pero no problema para 10K mas...

long story short... two chicas get talking.. another chica comes from out back into the conversation rapid fire spanish... receptionist asked Benesa for her money back .. Asked me to pay for "Only" a half hour since it had now been 30 minutes since we had left for the room... told her I was not going to pay anything for a shower and sell job without sexo...

She said saomething to chica #2 then gave me my money back without further coment....

I've been reading on the board about this happening at Oasis and Zona Blue but this a first for me... seems to be spreading... and lets face it gentlemen... the only reason it is spreading is because somebodyy is paying the extra plata....

Only way it is get stopped is refuse to pay & get a refund....

just my experience & my two cents worth....

Peace

PIDD

 

[lesbian 4life]

Up Selling at New fantasy

Only way it is get stopped is refuse to pay & get a refund....

I agree 100%. Good job standing firm.

 

[SJG]

Pidd,

I think you did the right thing. I've done the same thing at OASIS and KRYSIS......and to their credit, I did get a full refund. A similar situation happened once at MUSAS; they would give me no refund.

Zebra

 

[Spirits Alive]

The only time I've ever been hit for an upsell at an MP - by Leticia at Oasis - I looked at it this way: sure I'll give you 5k more for a BBBJ, but you just lost all of your 10k tip. So I actually spent less in the deal overall.

Anyways, totally agree with how you handled it, and I love the comeback line about "not seeing how 10k more is going to protect you from the germs..."

 

[agbeqqxd]

Anyways, totally agree with how you handled it, and I love the comeback line about "not seeing how 10k more is going to protect you from the germs..."

LMAO, that is funny.

If they'd ask nicely and be reasonable(5k?) it would be one thing. But 10k is a lot unless she's really good and lets you CIM. But these girls didn't exactly graduate from school of win/win negotiating or sex trade technical school. I like to see them get a fair deal but it's true, unless they are put in their place they'll run over us and even the poor performers will demand extra. I've had two BBBJs at NF that weren't worth a tip even. Nice girls, but they just don't really know how to give BJ.

BTW, I think her name was Vanessa and they just pronounce the B like V. Anyone know if this girl is any good anyway?

 

[Girl dreamer]

I am kind of tired of having chicks ask me for tips or telling me that this is extra. Its all you hear at Zona Blue and New Fantasy and in the end it wasnt even worth it. With all the mp all through SJ, Why go through the hassle?

 

[pFREDq]

I agree with GR
I think that if chicas want tips then they should just provide good service.


CHICAS PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
These girl know what guys want, asking for tip for this and that, completely kills the mood. Then you get a small tip.(1-2K) But if you show me the good time you know I want without pulling out a menu of extras on me, then guess what, you going to get a good tip(5k).

 

[Morgan Babes :P]

I had a similar experience at Zona Blue. I left a propina of 3 mil for the chica and she turned her nose up at it and left it lay. As I was about to walk out of the room, I went to pick up the money and said to her "do you want this or not?" She picked it up. :roll:

Zebra

 

[Beatle fanatic]

PIDD did the right thing

PIDD’s reaction was entirely appropriate. As he said, the only way to get them to stop is to refuse to pay and to get a refund. I can imagine that his actions have caused quite a stir at NF and among the girls not only at NF but several other venues. I was going to go to the NF today, however, based on PIDD’s experience, I will go somewhere else. “Youdoo2" is right, there are so many locations.

Thank you PIDD, you put them on notice that the up-selling and demanding tips is okay. You did us all a favor.

 

[ubedqubmiewikaeab]

The scary part of Pidd's experience is that the chica had no problem with returning with him to the front desk and explaining why she changed the deal in the room. This tells me that the chicas are in control of the place,and have no fear of repurcussions for not living up to agreements.

When I had a similar occurance with Kenya at Idem, (she wanted to a covered BJ and I put my pants back on and started to leave when she said....no problem....no problem) She agreed because she knew she was in some deep shit because she knew that I was pretty friendly with Roberto.

 

[Dancer101]

i had a chica at zb leave the 5k tip because she did not think it was enough

I would have thanked her for saving me $10. :

 

[uvecmuteiyuikneoj]

Actually, Bob, I think generally management would consider any agreement a chica can reach to be fair game unless it happens a lot or causes problems. Do you really think Roberto would be upset if he found out a girl was trying to upsell? I'd be interested in knowing.

 

[Timbo is here]

I don't know about "being in control of the place", but in matters of the services they provide, don't they have legal status as independent contractors? In which case, the house, while controlling their access to the facilities where they provide the service, still (I assume) has to grant them considerable leeway as to the terms of the service provided.

It does seem to be the tendency of the house to side with the chicas in these matters. I can point to another instance at Pantera Rosa once where I thought I was shorted on time in the room. I complained vehemently to management, but was told in effect "it's up to the girls." No refund or other considerations were extended.

 

[Steve Rogers]

At OASIS and MUSAS.....it has been my experience that management definitely sides with the chica. :twisted:

At KRYSIS......the nice lady manager there apologized and offered me a total refund

Zebra