Using the board to discuss extras.

[Emily W]

How do we use this board to find out where to get extras?

Everything we post goes to LE. As for private messaging, rr_bill is right, any one of us could be LE. Its sad that LE can use the very anonymity which allows us to communicate against us.

My advice? Think like a cop. This board is the easiest, cheapest investigation tool on the GTA MP scene available. Please consider that you may be feeding LE information every time you send anything to anyone on this board, PM or not.

Now for a little paranoia.

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[David D]

Thats paranoia speaking....

Just discuss explicity with those you know. Otherwise keep the stuff neutral.

You would be surprised at how many guys pm me asking me if they can get "this" level of extras with so and so. All I can say is, ask the lady in question as you will not find out one way or another from me.

Just remember that what one person may get with a certain individual the next person might not get. Some of these ladies will only do certain things with certain customers.

 

[lucy lui]

I agree with knowing the laws concerning being caught in a situation, and that's a serious thing, but even if you tell a real LE what you got from a certain MPA, he'd have to be offered the same or see the same to press charges. It leads to more heat and investigation (which is admittedly bad), but as far as I can tell even if you were to directly tell a known LE massageplanet.net-ite what you got from a certain MPA, I have a hard time believing that he could constitute a case from that.

Not that any of you would ever make up stories about how much you got from a girl, but you wouldn't be the first.

Nonetheless, I COMPLETELY agree with not posting details on public massageplanet.net boards. Nothing good could come of that (so to speak).

And yeah, I can vouch that Sheik won't tell you a fucking thing in a private message!


Oh, and for Fred - don't you know the IP addresses? Can you at least tell us whether or not LE frequents the board, without posting names? And is it a safe assumption that no one with a large number of posts would be LE, or is that just foolish?

 

[Sid Vicious]

I have been on this board for only a few months.

it has been only in the last week or so, that the hype over LE has really surfaces..

I wonder why now, has there been more raids, are the LE on here just trying to freak us out.

Or are we all cumming to our senses and reallize what we are doing might be wrong.


Just a thought.......

 

[sriteja]

, "Think like a cop"..is often misinterpreted advice since very few people on this board know how cops really think in the current legal/ political environment...you would have to talk to a few first...find out what they have been instructed to do, what will stick and not stick in court, what ect.

2ndly like Shiek said, you are getting totally paranoid by thinking of all possbilities (legal, and via technology). Sure big brother could track all our posts, pm's, our every move if they wanted to but they don't. The budget, manpower, and desire are not there. Level 5 surveillance is incredibly expensive.

Just use common sense. Before I entered law school, I had already talked to quite a few mpa's, 2 mp owners, a strip joint owner, a vice cop, 3 sargents, and enough lawyers ( who I interact with socially)...talk to the owners, ect...do a little field research. Paul at IT seems to make himself very available.

You and friendly greek, going by strictly theoretical parameters of law are somewhat correct at theoretical possibilities ( that WE CAN ALL be busted), but that isn't the current legal/political environment. You have to go out to the field and see how the law is being practiced. This holds true for all law...parameters are set...but open to the current interpretations set by THE COURTS..it is how they are enforced.

I read your previous post on another topic about the Criminal Code (to Sheik), and what to do in a bust ( to friendly greek). SHEIK was correct on both a theoretical and practical level. The CC is what ultimately decides it all. Your advice to GREEK about identifying himself and asking for a lawyer will get him a bad tongue lashing. This isn't a murder case. Cops hate it when you go over their head. They have what you call a ASSHOLE test. Be cooperative, they might get so pissed off, they may OVERCHARGE and trust me you don't want that. It is their ace up their sleeves. Just answer questions without incriminating yourself, be respectful, and do what you gotta do.

I may only be in 3rd year law, but have legal aid experience, and had many lunches with lawyers and studied these cases...if "I don't know shit..." your words.... then what do you know? What you see on t.v from the states??Do I go into 7-11 and tell you how to punch up the cash register???(this is a joke, please don't get peaved).

There is a reason I mainly stick to Alphacare. They have a locked door at the bottom floor, a buzzer, and cameras, I believe. The place would be alerted well before the cops ever showed up on the forth floor.

All in all I agree with you Dud, that we should be discrete when possible and use common sense, but there has to be a happy medium. My point of being on this board ( and yours might be different) is to avoid crappy mpa and find the good ones, because it is expensive. No need for a bad session. So we have to keep the information alive if possible. The whole mp thing should be about stress relief, not stress creation.

cheers,
booty

 

[Baran]

This debate comes up every few months. I believe the cops shut places down because, either the MPs are in the wrong place, or things at the MP have gotten out of hand. They maybe pestering some places, simply to keep them in line. BJs and other sexual acts are available at almost all MPs, at one time or another, if they want to check into it. But if they wanted to shut a MP down, it would be effortless to just park a curser out front of the MP and leave it there, game over.

PMs are not private, dont say anything in them that would incriminate you, that would not want to be public.

 

[iKNOWyouDO]

Cops read massageplanet.net all the time its the only thing they do. Everything we say and do is being monitered. Sarcarsm implied.

1. Cops dont give a shit about massage parlours, if they did there would be 100s out of business.

2. Why all the fuss about the 5 0 layely, sounds like someones trying to scare us.

 

[bonzii]

Good point.

If everyone is going in and out of MPs and getting sex is one thing. But ordinary MPs, they(LE) don't care.

When a politician is looking to score some points by playing the "morality card", that

 

[Pompal 09.]

Just a question to all of you guys who believe any of the following...

1. cops read the info on this board

2. disguise themselves to get info out of you by means of PM

3. "track" pm's to get info on us

4. use NSA and CSIS satellites to track the MP's entrances and bug inside the rooms


If you do believe any of this at all, THE OBVIOUS question then is.....

Why do you even bother going to an MP or SC, let alone having sex with an escort?

Obviously the fear of getting caught is too real. I too worry about a bust (very much so). And every place we go into we have to assume can be busted. How do you know everything that goes on in any place, even the two licensed MP's that are so popular on this board??

Sheik, with all due respect, maybe a review board isnt for you? If you wont give info and reviews, what is it exactly that you've said in those 900 some odd posts? "This girl works here, and she's good." oh ok, awesome. Now i feel better about blowing $150 on someone.

Oh, and if anyone wants any info on extras, PM me. that means you officer Dan.

(i say all this with humour and humility, not meant to antogonize.)

 

[Aunt Murry]

1. Likely.
2. Possible, but I don't believe that's ever happened in my case.
3. Very unlikely.
4. Extremely unlikely.



Your chances of getting caught in a bust are small, but it is a possibility. Places get busted now and then. There are also accidents everyday, but I still drive my car. I also take trips on airplanes, occasionaly walk around outside during a thunderstorms, cross busy roads away from the crossing lights, etc. etc. There's always a risk factor in pretty much anything you do.



Interesting, a quick search on your posting history doesn't show too many reviews in threads that you've started. Mostly they are questions abouts MPA's or SC girls. Sheik, from what I gather, gets around quite a bit and can offer insight and advice on many subjects, which is what he does quite frequently. If he chooses not to give out details, that's his perogative. It's easy enough not to read posts by any poster if you choose not to. That's also your perogative. I suggest you excersize that one if you don't like Sheik's posts instead of complaining.

 

[Janice R]

Dick,

I've posted over 200 reviews over the last thres years. How many have you posted?

 

[Truth]

Booty,

I think we

 

[Jim S]

Well if I ever get caught in an MP so be it. I'll do my best to wiggle out, then I'll face the music. I'm more worried about catching a disease (after reading the17% stat) than being caught by a cop. Besides guys, Maxim says that every guy has to spend at least one night in jail (I already have).

 

[wwenba4life]

As someone from WITHIN, all I can say is that the busts are more real than you think. I used to believe that if you play by the MP rules, you are pretty safe and, in fact, it worked for me.

Nevertheless, having hours of conversations with various girls, I learned that if cops want to bust you, they will. Some of the girls got arrested even 3 times! It is their word against yours and you are automatically a criminal. Next time you drive your car and the traffic cop is running your licence plate through, he sees that you have been in some sort of legal trouble. Then he comes back to you with your licence and says "Been charged, eh?" and your passanger can hear it. Just one of the real life stories I've heard...

That is why we are asking the hobbyists to be as vague as possible on the boards. No need to mention any graphic details. Sure, not all we read here is true, but it is in our best and especially your interest to keep things quiet. Just help us to help you.

 

[diamondsandsapphire]

I agree this should only be used to the review the quality of service, not anything else. Please let us know about the girls, how they look,, attitude, price and anything else you think is of value. But please for everyones sake be discreet. If there is anything else to found out we''ll find out for ourselfs.

 

[ghostwriter]

Coded terms can be disputed if LE...I pm with a few folks here and our code is totally undecipherable...it isn't the regular code such as daty or dp...if you use certain words in certain ways..most peeps should be able to "read between the lines."

 

[Danika]

The coded words tell us where to meet ( on instant messenger and at what time or a chat room on the rare case I am discussing 20 or 30 girls with another veteran..lol...if LE is willing to track that (yeah right, and I am bigger than John Holmes) they can have me...sure invest 100000 in ressources and court fees to prosecute me for that 10 dollar fine...remember Alanis is an attendant..not a client...they really don't care about us, at least not in the current political/legal environment. If this changes I would bow out of the mp game real quick rather than risk a career.

cheers,
booty

 

[cailyn]

I have a lot of faith in you theFan...no need to catch any of this paranoiditis going around.

 

[Come to NEW R&S Chat!]

Small addition to my previous post: clients were implicated in the busts as well, if there were criminal charges laid. I think AsianMPA mentions this as well in some way...

 

[DancerForLife<3]

Sure is in our best interest to tread softly! I have always maintained that myself. And of course it IS, ALL about us! Right?