What do you look for in a massage

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What makes a good massage? I'm talkingaboutthe minute you walk in the door to the moment you walk out. I have had massages that have been fantastic but the therapist has not been too friendly, or the lighting isn't right, or there was no parking outside! I will start massaging soon in my practice in Cape Town and I would really like to hear from all of you, what is it that makes a treatment special and leaves you feeling fantastic!...
 
lisaschles, I this is a much deeper question than it seems, especially if you spread the question wide and include the entire process not just the massage.

For me, if I simplify, its all about being treated with care and respect as an individual. I have had massages where the technique was phenomenal, but I felt completely disconnected from the massage - I was just another client - not ME. Give me less than perfect technique but a therapist who is connected to the ME under his/her handsany day.

Again this for me extends to the whole process, for example I could live with less than perfect lighting if the therapist recognised that this was an issue toME and offered some suggestions on how to make it better for ME. It may be that for 90% of their clients its not a problem - but if it is for ME then I want a therapist who is sensitive enough to notice, and is open, creative and flexibleenough to try and make it better for ME.

Massage and touch are by definition an intensely personal experience - a good massage is one that recognises that from before you walk through the door to a follow-up phone-call a few days afterwards.

An interesting observation I just made (which is why I so like HP) - I just wrote me-me-me.Irealise that Iwant a massage that gives me license to be 100% selfish - and I am naturally unselfish - so it has to do it in a way that makes me comfortable in taking/receivingthat. Achieve that with a reasonable degree of competence and I will feel fantastic - both physically and mentally.

Hope that helps

InTouch
 
Hi InTouch,

Yes thank you this does help. There are indeed alot of 'ME's in your post! But you are absolutely right. When I do Reiki treatments I want my client to feel totally nurtured and pampered and for them to experience total 'Me' time, so I will carry this over into my massage treatments.
So thank you, I appreciate your reply!

Lisa
 
This is a GREAT question. I'll list a bunch of things.

1. The massage is thorough. I am an athlete, so I've had all types of hamstring, quad, shoulder, adductor, and glute injuries. Some of these things I've been almost embarrassed to bring up, but I've had therapists skip over essential areas. I also have functional dyspepsia, a digestive disorder, so I like to be asked if I want abdominal massage, which I enjoy and helps relax my stomach. If the therapist appears afraid to massage parts of your body (other than privates, obviously), I won't go to that therapist.

2. Private location. When I go to get a massage, I really just want to relax and get away. The problem with having a massage at a gym or YMCA is when you have to walk through a bunch of people you might know to get there. I don't like really to run into other clients or people I know when getting a massage. I'd prefer the office to be separate so you don't have to talk to and walk through a bunch of people to get there.

3. Massage is not rushed. I like when the therapist asks what problems you are having and genuinely seems to care about you. Believe meclients are not stupid - we can tell when you are just collecting a paycheck and pushing us out the door. Therapists that cut your time short defintely will get the axe. And clients can tell if you are listening when they mention a problem. I've had therapists where you tell them what is wrong but they just perform their same routine.

4. Room is not too light. Obviously, having a room too dark can be creepy for the therapist, but I do feel having it darker makes the client feel less exposed and helps them relax more, in general.

5. Therapist doesn't break contact too often. There is nothing more aggravating that having a therapist pull away to get some lotion, perform two or three strokes, and then stop to get more lotion again, then walk to the other side of the table, then switch CD's, then take a phone call. If you keep breaking physical contact with the client constantly, the massage won't be relaxing and the client will get annoyed.

6. Give clients the benefit of the doubt. If a client feels like the therapist doesn't completely trust them or feels like they have to worry about what they might say, they won't come back. Obviously if a client makes sexual remarks or inappropriate remarks, they should be asked to leave, but clients don't want someone who is obsessed with the idea that the client might be a perv or something.....During massages, people relax, and sometimes even say things perhaps the wrong way or not the way they meant them...

7. A good sense of humor helps.

8. The therapist uses enough lotion. I don't like massages where the therapist skimps on lotion, because then I can feel the friction rubbing against me and I don't tend to relax as much.

9. The therapist is ON TIME! Therapists who cancel on clients at the last minute, particularily that day, are incosiderate, unless it is an emergency. I recently had a therapist schedule me for 9AM and she didn't show up until 9:10AM, and the door was locked! Thankfully, I waited, but she was lucky I didn't leave, or I would have been upset.

10. Obviously privacy must be respected. One time I was getting changed an
 
This is an interesting thread and I believe its down to the individual. I'm not a massage therapist but havehad regular massages for the past 10years. What i look for is ultimate relaxation. However, this involves a number of things. Firstly, for me, the relationship with the therapist is important. Having had massages from the same therapist for more than 8 years, I found it difficult to relax with a new therapist recently. I have found different therapists attitudes to massaging (men in particular) differs immensely and i appreciate why. My relationship with my previous therapist lead to there being no barriers, awkwardness or discomfort and she even knew how to heat and light the room to suit me.
For me, i just want to know i can lay there, do absolutely nothing and receive my massage uninterupted.
 
Hi Ace
Thankyou for posting your views on this thread,I read them all with interest. You mention quite a few things there which will be helpful to any new therapists just starting out. One thing you mentioned , about the therapist moving away from client to apply more oil made me think! I keep my oil close at hand but it made me wonder if when applying the oil any therapists apply it all over the body in one go rather than apply to each body part when getting around to massaging it (Hmmm....never thought of doing it that way .) would be interesting to hear if anyone does use this method.

love and peace

Innerpeace
 
Hi inner peace. You may even be able to get more lotion while keeping one hand on the client, if the lotion is close by. One time though I had a therapist who literally took two or three strokes, got more lotion, two or three more strokes, got more lotion. It was an hour massage but it felt like about 30 minutes. It causes the massage not to flow when you constantly must move from one end of the table to the other, have to change the music, have to take a phone call...the point I guess is, to maximize the amount of time in an hour that you are massaging the person...that is what I mean by not breaking contact. I hope my whole list helps...but I am sure it is different for different clients.
 
Hi Ace
I understand where your coming from . I would be very annoyed if someone kept breaking contact too. I'm a firm believer in always placing one hand on the client when moving round the body the only time i do break contact is when applying oil but its only for a second as i have it right by my side and i put enough on there to not have to reapply on that body part . I also use make sure i have a cd playing that lasts at least 60 mins when doing a full body routine as again i feel it important not to be leaving my client unattended for any given time once routine has started. I would never dream of answering a phone call during a treatment and always have my answer machine kick in ( my phone is always left out of earshot too so as not to interrupt the session.
once again thanks for your comments

Innerpeace x
 
Ihave found this very interesting both as a client and as a practitioner

I agree with what has been said already and I would include the ambiance when I go to a treatment.

I have twice in the last year not gone back for a treatment because the therapy room was grubby , not dirty but tired and untidy and I could hear the reception phone ringing all through my treatment which was irritating. As well as good therapistI need a room that it clean fresh set up properly with a few added treats like flowers , aroma etc
I think of massage as a treat andfor £35 I want it to be special
The treatments I had were very good and one of the therapists asked me to say honestly what i thought of the place so i told her and she said thats it , you're right it is dingy here and I am leaving! she did leave and set up at home which was much nicer than the clinic!
 
Great point about the noise level. I recently went to a massage that was at a YMCA/gym. I had to walk through a bunch of weightlifters in a weightlifting room to get to the massage room. Everyone saw me go in, hopefully, no one knew me there. Well I get in the room, and there is no music, and I can overhear sports on the TV. Now, I am a HUGE sports fan but NOT duringa massage. Plus, you could hear voices outside the room. Not exactly the most relaxing atmosphere...and add that the therapist talked the whole time.....when I really wanted to relax....not good.
 
Hi,
What i look for in a massage is
1: Therapist Male or female isn't prudish
2: Good Personal hygiene(Some wear far too much scent)
3: Using different types of techniques.
4: Temperature of room
5: Leaving thinking that was money well spent
 
[:mad:]Hi I read this thread a few weeks and was going to reply and then thought that I would wait until I had had a more recent massage. Anyway today was the day. I had been given some vouchers for a local gym/beauty place and so I thought I would treat myself to a massage - I had to pay extra on top of the voucher. Anyway I went for a "stress away" massage for £42 for 60 mins. I have to say that I was not impressed. The room was cold and at the end of the treatment my feet were freezing. She did turn the air conditiioning off but it was cold. I thought it was supposed to be a full body but I didn't get my abdomen or my glutes done - or face. The floor wasn't particularly clean and the bin was overflowing and I could HEAR the PHONE and chatting all through the treatment. I have a varicous vein (small) on my leg but she basically just did effleurage on that one.

I don't know - maybe I am being too critical but I definitely didn't feel very relaxed at the end and to be honest I felt short changed. It wasn't worth the £42 and makes me think that I should put my prices up!
 
I agree with the replies from Ace88, Scorpio and Bexx; and personally I disagree with Soar‘s priorities. A friend of mine recently treated herself to a very expensive massage at a well-known spa chain. She said that it was a waste of time and money: it had all the luxury trimmings (nice soft towels, soft lighting, background music) but the actual massage was so gentle and timid that it was completely ineffective: she felt that she had been ‘polished’ rather than massaged.

Personally I would far rather have an effective treatment in a ‘spartan’ clinic than an ineffective treatment in a luxury clinic. Three reasons why I have booked a massage in the past have been:
1) to reduce discomfort in the trapezius/rhomboid area (probably caused by too much computer work)
2) to reduce minor lower back pain
3) to reduce discomfort in the legs after completing a marathon or half-marathon

So one thing which I look for in a massage is an adequate consultation beforehand: I want the therapist to be able to deal with any specific problems which I have, not just go through her ITEC/VTCT routine on ‘autopilot’ as some therapists seem to do. The massage needs to be deep enough to be effective, and the therapist needs to be able to treat the appropriate areas effectively. For example, if I have asked for work on my lower back, the therapist needs to be willing to work on the upper gluteal area and the quadratus lumborum. If I have tight quadriceps or hamstring muscles, the therapist needs to be able to treat the whole length of the muscles in question.

Alan
 
Hey AlanD - at least your friend got nice fluffy towels!! I think that the ones she used on me yesterday had gone through the washing machine too many times to mention - talk about threadbare!!
 
As a postscript to my earlier comment about an ineffective massage at a 'well-known spa chain', I was interested to read the following (from an article by Alice Miles) in Saturday's Times:



I think that this helps confirm a point we have discussed on earlier threads - ie that as far as massage is concerned, a high price is not a guarantee of quality !

Alan
 
A friend of mine was actually training at Champneys and left because it was inadequate - another friend of mine went on a day course there and the first thing she was shown was how to do a FULL body massage in half an hour!

For me it is not just the actual massage which dictates if it is a good treatment or not

To be greeted in a polite but friendly manner and to have the therapist introduce her/himself is a good start and cleanliness of the salon or therapy room is a given.

When I am working I have always just had a shower and never wear perfume, especially when doing an aromatherapy massage, how can you get the benefit of the aroma if you cant smell it over the therapists perfume.

HG
 
I always go for a massage that can help the parts of me that need it. As long as the massage therapist is good and friendly and the place is clean, I'm happy.
 
I think a massage is a whole package a little bit like paying for an expensive meal:

for a meal I look at:
1. the ambience and setting (lighting, music)
2. the greeting and seating
3. the menu (yum!)
4. the service
5. how the dish is served by the waiter
6. what the food looks like
7. what the food smells like
8. finally, how the food tastes

Put that in massage terms,
1.the lighting, the temperature,
2. the greeting,
3. the fluffy towels, how the couchis set up and the treatment room
4. plinky-plonky music on repeat
5. a varying treatment with an interested therapist,
6. something a bit different like scented steamed towels to refresh the feet,
7. the quality and quantity of the treatment
8. not feeling unhurried.
9. and feeling that you are the most important client in the World!
 
Hi
When I have a massage a full body massage, I expect the room to be peaceful and calm with soft relaxing music andloweredlighting. The therapist should be friendly and interested.To ask me at intervals if the pressure is correct, to light orif too deep, can hurt, this is what make me feel welcomed. I also when having an aromatherapy massage, I expect my head and face massaged too! It is also good to be asked what Essential Oils I would like, or if she is preparing some for me to let me have a sniff to see if I like the aroma. That is what I expect to be a good massage.

Regards!
 
I agree with most of what's said here... when I go to a massage I want to close my eyes, relax, and not have anything intrude other than touch. The worst is when the therapist breaks contact often for oil (or overly adjusting draping), followed by the massage by numbers in which the sequences have no regard for where I may need more massage... (i.e., not all bits need the same amount of attention!).
 
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    Phoenix blossom Spa ♨️♨️♨️table shower 👍👍👍👍👍body scrub🌹🌹🌹🌹5124 Dundas W Etobicoke ☎️416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Suki 😘can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  30. K-mike:
    My first time coming to QQ Square and it was a phenomenal experience. I came with my friend who helped me book a Thai room while he took the Japanese themed room. I was impressed with how clean everything was. Aya made my experience so memorable, she was so courteous, social and fun. The service here is so welcoming, even as I was leaving, I didn't want to leave. I will be definitely coming back. Thank you Aya, QQ and everyone there!
  31. EMSpa_schedule:
    Call to book: 905-479-6668 !!
  32. EMSpa_schedule:
    🔥 Tomorrow's sneak peek: 🔥 On Wednesday October 23, 2024, our attendants will be Carla 🤩, Opal 😍, Cici 🥰, Sandy 😘 and Yoyo! 🤗
  33. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Zoe - 🔥Stunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  34. Shangri-la Spa:
    Tuesday Blues? 💜⎝Shangri-la Spa⎠💖 your best destinations for luxury Asian massages in GTA 🎉 Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakville. 9 stunning Girls from China, Hong Kong, Japan & Korea — Coco, Cindy, best GFE Cici, Busty Echo, JPN Yui, 🇰🇷 Luna, 36D Amber, Anita & Kelly — ready to spoil you silly. 🧘‍♀✨Come for a Vichy Table Shower🍁🎈 Hit up 647-695-6354🤙 or text to 📱647-578-8169. ✨Cruise on over to 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill. 💰Let the fun times roll, baby!🙌
  35. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at 𝗔𝗟𝗜𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟮𝟵𝟴-𝟬𝟴𝟵𝟴. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa: AMY (11:30am – 9:00pm is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cup titis, pretty face, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. JULIA from Philippines, young girl, busty, E cup, curvy short body, cute face sexy lips 👄, excellent massage and service
  36. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 ☎ 437-688-2407 ☎ Monday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY(10AM-11pm) & *New Spinner NANA (3pm-11pm)[/color] CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. Tiny NANA is an unbelievably good Superstar SPINNER, only 5’2”
  37. SunriseRH:
    TUESDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: MIMI, NAYLA & NOOR. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 ☎️ MIMI is a slim and pretty Chinese Attendant with a positive demeanor and a readiness to please. NAYLA is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. Come and say hola. NOOR is a medium build Indian lady with nice services.
  38. NewOriental:
    TUESDAY at 𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔: HAPPY, KAT & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. KAT is BEAUTIFUL, young & slim with C Cups , a tasty figure & a tasty menu. VIVIAN is a pretty & very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5’7” tall, with a slim figure
  39. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5’1” and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  40. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️: CICI, CINDY & JENNY. CICI is a young, slim & beautiful Chinese gem, petite 5’2” & 100 Lbs with firm but soft C Cups & the absolute best of services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best!
  41. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: CHERRY, MIMI & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60.
  42. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young naughty Ivy with big buttocks open mind 30’s and young cute Mia 25’s,sweet EFG Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  43. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young naughty Ivy with big buttocks open mind 30’s and young cute Mia 25’s with tinny body, sweet EFG Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  44. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lulu,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,🏠address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 🦵🦵👄👄🈵🈵👅👅
  45. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Anika , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 🏠 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 🦵🦵👄👄🈵🈵👅👅
  46. Soul Relax Spa:
    ✨ Looking for a relaxing escape? ✅ Meet🌸Claire🌸MariaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now ☎ 289 - 298 - 5662☎️ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! ✨
  47. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5’2”tall . 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service ☎️416-988-2950
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Great BBBJ, CIM, GFE in Her menu Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples ☎️647- 446-0886
  49. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️( 647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️( 437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia😘 - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  50. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Baby😘🥰 A young, vibrant 22 year old petite spinner from Vietnam with a calm and welcoming presence. Her dark, flowing hair complements her soft, warm smile, creating an approachable and friendly atmosphere. She carries herself wi
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