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I trained in Swedish Massage two years ago and have been promoting it as such since then. However, I am now thinking do I just call it Massage rather than Swedish Massage. Do I have to call it that? When trained we didn't include the head or the face or even the glutes really but having done various courses and read books etc, I find that I am now incorporating other parts of the body. For example, some people don't want their abdomen touching (ticklish) and so I do their face. Does it matter if I just say massage? Any advice much appreciated. Thanks
 
There was an interesting discussion on the earlier thread [link=http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=263603]SWEDISH MASSAGE?[/link]. As I indicated there, I think that the title โ€˜Swedish massageโ€™ is not really appropriate, particularly for the โ€˜watered-downโ€™ version of massage which many ITEC/VTCT tutors teach.
The danger with just stating โ€˜massageโ€™ is that so many women advertise โ€˜massageโ€™ when they are actually offering sexual services. As I mentioned on the earlier thread [link=http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=255093]Attracting new clients[/link], my personal advice would be that the word 'massage' is so frequently used by women who are actually offering sexual services that it is unwise for any legitimate therapist who works from home to simply advertise 'massage'. If your interest is in deep tissue and remedial massage, then go on a sports massage course and advertise yourself as 'sports massage'. If your interest is in gentle relaxing massage, then go on an aromatherapy course and advertise yourself as 'aromatherapy/massage'. But to simply advertise oneself as offering 'massage' runs the risk of attracting the wrong type of 'client'. Perhaps โ€˜holistic massageโ€™ or โ€˜therapeutic massageโ€™ might be a more suitable title.

Alan
 
On my business cards I put it down as Therapeutic Massage. I shyed away from saying Swedish Massage because I don't tend to do hacking and cupping and think most people expect this with Swedish. In terms of areas massaged the lay man wouldn't know what bits are or not included.

I'm now toying with renaming it Fusion Massage or Massage Fusion. I qualified in ITEC massage about 6 plus years ago and what I do now incorporates Swedish, Lomi Lomi, No Hands, Myofascial, & trigger point massage - a combination of all these techniques are used depending on what the client needs.

I agree with Alan D - don't just say massage.
 
Yes to both statements about massage = sexual favours.

I too wondered about Swedish massage, and now call it body massage. I always state that I am a holistic or complementary therapist. I think I would be about confused if I was offered a fusion massage, I think that an explanation would be needed to state what it is as it sounds like a new type of massage.

I offer body/swedish, aromatherapy, Indonesian, ayurvedic, Indian, thai, etc but I state them as individual treatments. I think most therapists add little bits from all of their learning to enhance their treatments. I intuitively add what is needed or feels right at the time, but I don't go in with any pre-conceived ideas of what I'm going to do.
 
Thanks for the advice. I like the wording of Body Massage as this is non-specific isn't it and means that I can incorporate what I want into that. I suppose Massage could be linked with sexual favours. I live in a relatively small community and suppose that I hadn't really thought about that. In many ways, people that I know have laughed more about the term Swedish rather than straightforward massage.

I don't really know what you mean AlanD about the 'watered down' version of Swedish Massage. I did the VTCT course and our tutor was excellent.I read a few massgebooks for the course and she didn't seem to 'water down' anything atall.
 
Hi Bexx

Apologies to some of the โ€˜longer-servingโ€™ readers of this forum, but I guess that I will have to repeat some of what has been stated on earlier threads. I began my massage career with an ITEC course. I was very disappointed with the quality of the tuition: we had much less practical massage than the 50 hours which ITEC recommend, and we werenโ€™t taught the importance of basic body mechanics and of having the couch low enough to ensure that the massage is effective. And although I passed the course, I was so frustrated with the poor training that I felt the need to go on a short course at the LCM as a โ€˜top-upโ€™ before proceeding to a BTEC sports massage course.

The training forum includes a long thread entitled


โ€œ[link=http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=280433]I hate my course ITEC- so disorganised- How can I complain? [/link]โ€œ

See [link=http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=280433]http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=280433[/link]

To quote โ€˜Jabba the Hutโ€™ (who is a very experienced therapist)




As far as basic massage is concerned, ITEC donโ€™t even require students to be able to massage the whole of the body. A recent post on the training forumstates





It is quite clear from various threads in this forum (see for example the threads โ€˜Swedish massage sequenceโ€™, โ€˜Swedish massage and buttocksโ€™ and โ€˜full body massageโ€™) that many ITEC tutors take advantage of this to cut corners and donโ€™t bother to teach their students the specific techniques for pectoral, abdominal, gluteal or facial massage. To quote another contributor to this forum:




As I commented on that thread:




To quote from Leon Chaitow (a very experienced lecturer and writer) on
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Hi Alan sorry I obviously ruffled your feathers there which I didn't really mean to do. I'm not disagreeing that the courses aren't up to standard but I have to say that my tutor really was excellent and showed us techniques that she said weren't on the syllabus. Plus since then I have attended other one day courses as a means of improving my knowledge about massage and have incorporated these in to my overall body massage as I said earlier.

I agree that there are tutors out there who are definitely not teaching up to the standard required. I have written this on another thread about the VTCT course that I did in reflexology which was definitely below standard and I couldn't believe that at the end of the course I could really call myself a qualified reflexologist. That's why I went on to do the AOR diploma.

I don't know what the ITEC course covers. I can only speak from the VTCT experience that I had with that particular tutor and she was really great. We learnt to massage the whole body. But I do know from reading other threads on here that there are people out there who do leave out some parts as they have never been taught what to do. Wasn't there somebody who didn't massage a man's quads?? I mean yes then that's not good enough but not all tutors should be brushed with the same stroke.
 
Hi Bexx

Sorry if I went on at too much length on the previous thread - and I would accept that there are clearly some very good VTCT tutors. But to quote from an earlier post by 'sportstherapy' (who is an experienced tutor):



I am in danger of taking this thread off at a tangent, but when I did two courses in Hawaiian massage, both my tutors had actually been taught in Hawaii. I would argue that anyone who wishes to teach 'Swedish massage' should logically have experience of receiving massage in Sweden (where my understanding is that massage generally includes the whole of the body and is applied with quite firm pressure).

Regards

Alan
 
Hi Alan I have to say that I totally agree with the quote from sportstherapy. How do I include quotes in here by the way?? Anyway, I am becoming slightly disillusioned with the various courses on offer to be honest.

I have been looking to add to my current treatments but the variation in courses available by different providers is a total joke to be honest. I know that this will hopefully be overcome with the proposed self-regulation but it seems to me that you can do any course and get it insured by various different companies.

I'm not just talking about VTCT here and yet it does hack me off that the courses that I have done with them over a year can be done with "intensive training" in a weekend - or perhaps two. At the Holistic Health show I noticed that VTCT have changed thier certificate level courses to Diplomas. The guy told me that they were essentially the same course with additional case studies.

I think finding suitable courses is like a minefield to be honest. You just don't know what you're going to get.
 
type your reply: highlight the bit which is a quote: and then if you look to the right of the boxes saying 'font face' and 'size' you'll see a 'speech bubble' which says 'add quote tag' if you hover your mouse over it: click on that.

Alan
 
Mmmmm ... missed something out obviously think I need to practise that one!
 
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    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Monday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY(10AM-11pm) & *New Spinner NANA (3pm-11pm)[/color] CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. Tiny NANA is an unbelievably good Superstar SPINNER, only 5โ€™2"
  31. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Selina with big buttocks open mind 30โ€™s and young cute Lulu 26โ€™s with tinny body,sweet EFG Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  32. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธYoyo๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธSophia๐ŸŒธAlisa Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  33. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธMariaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  34. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girlโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu. Lin Very Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ5โ€™ 1โ€, 100 lbs โ€จGreat BBJ, CIM Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  35. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sasa Very Sexy Vietnamese friendly and milfy . body is amazing and smooth. Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  36. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Kelly ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  37. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  38. SunriseRH:
    MONDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: MIMI & NAYLA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ MIMI is a slim and pretty Chinese Attendant with a positive demeanor and a readiness to please. NAYLA is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. Come and say hola. SUNRISE SPA
  39. NewOriental:
    MONDAY at ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: HAPPY & KAT 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. KAT is BEAUTIFUL, young & slim with C Cups , a tasty figure & a tasty menu. NEW ORIENTAL SPA
  40. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  41. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Summer โค๏ธ has nice sexy body, and nice breasts. She can give very good massage and fun service. Very sexy, and so friendly. Beautiful girl with great massage skills and willing to give you a happy fun session multiple times if you
  42. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ*New Girl CANDY, YUMI & CINDY CANDY is a slim and attractive Asian Attendant with nice boobs, slim waist & a booty loverโ€™s ass. Candy has a full range of services. YUMI is a sexy skinny Chinese babe, short with big boobs, nice smile & very good services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Lisa, Cindy & Ruby. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. RUBY is Singaporean, very slim, petite & sexy, speaks English well, & has great services. Cindy is a slim beauty,
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  45. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Michelle, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  46. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 11 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, ASHA, MONIKA, NINA, MALIYA, NISHA, SARIKA, SANA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Suki ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  48. EMSpa_schedule:
    โค๏ธโœ…๏ธ Here's a sneak peek of the schedule โœ…๏ธโค๏ธ: For Monday October 21, 2024, our attendants will be Mia ๐Ÿ˜, Summer ๐Ÿคฉ, Vicky ๐Ÿฅฐ, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜ and guest attendant Kimmy ๐Ÿ”ฅ We have a new guest attendant Kimmy joining us tomorrow! โฃ๏ธ
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Michelle, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  50. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, 19 years old Japanese girl Hannah 32F, 20 years Japanese girl Amanda 20 years old, lucky, Jenny, queenie, Vanessa, @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
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