Why I stopped eating meat

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For many years my upper back has been my troublesome area in my body. It would really bother me while I would massage clients. I would have this burning tired tight feeling while I would be working. Than it got to a point when it would travel down my arms and make my hands tired. Then one day while I was working on a client it hit me what I needed to do because massage was not the only answer. I thought I should stop eating meat because my worst attacks were after I ate, which I always had some kind of meat. I have been meat free for 2 weeks now and that gross burning feeling is gone in my back and I have never felt better.

Does anyone else have the same story?
 


Nice. My acupuncturist stopped eating corn after doing the allergy diet she had me do... she found that it caused a very specific form of back pain for her!
 


I haven't got a story like that, but yours is pretty cool! I have heard such stories in the past, as well. Good for you! Do you plan to go long-term with this, do you think?
 


My goal is long term, but I must say I am really suprised how different my body feels. Goes to show you are what you eat
 


That's wonderful! I'm really glad you found an answer to your problem. It's amazing how many of our problems relate back to food allergies and sensitivities. Food allergy testing is not always accurate, either, which makes the process more frustrating.

I find it interesting as to how many people these days HAVE issues with certain foods. Has it always been like this? I don't remember hearing about it so much historically, even back when I was growing up. A few people had serious allergies, like to peanuts, but that was it. Nobody really had problems with eggs that I remember. It all seems to be a more recent thing. I wonder if there is a link with the genetic engineering going on in an ever-growing sector of the food population, and lack of labeling makes it hard to buy what's best and to know what you're eating.

Lately, I've found that cutting back on (although I haven't abstained entirely from) wheat and chocolate has been very good for my system. I've dropped several pounds in a relatively short period of time and I feel less foggy after a meal. I also FEEL thinner/lighter/leaner, and it's more of an "inside" feeling, not necessarily the fact that I can fit into my jeans better (although that's happening, too).

Hehe oh well, just my ramblings. :)

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~Jyoti
 


I find it interesting as to how many people these days HAVE issues with certain foods. Has it always been like this?

I think it's a connection that's really easy to overlook. I mean, unless you do an allergy reduction diet and cut all these foods out and add them back in one by one, how do you know what each variable is doing to your body? As you say, conventional allergy testing is only one piece of the puzzle. I think many people just live with poor digestion or other symptoms and think it's normal.

Also, food has changed so significantly. And the amount and diversity of weird food products we put into our bodies amounts to a great deal of complexity. Not an easy situation to sort out into straightforward causes and effects.
 
Why I stopped eating meat

I feel off the wagon and started eating meat again. I am finding that I am having a really hard time during my period. Any suggestions as to how I can over come this?
 
Why I stopped eating meat

JLWmassage said:
I feel off the wagon and started eating meat again. I am finding that I am having a really hard time during my period. Any suggestions as to how I can over come this?

I'll be curious to see the reply's on this one. My husband and I recently made the decision to cut meat from our diets and I am concerned about my red meat cravings during my period. We've done the gradual approach...just not buying any meat and using up what's left in our kitchen. I have been focused on eating more protein..eggs, cheese..protain shakes, peanut butter..etc. I do wonder if taking an iron supplement would be the way to go during that time of the month??
 
Why I stopped eating meat

Don't get discouraged, changing your eating habits is hard! Kudos for taking the initiative to take better care of yourself this way.

As far as the cravings during your period, I used to get those too... mostly, I believe, because my mother would encourage me to eat more meat during my period due to dizziness and severe cramping I would get. Try eating more beans, dark leafy greens and mushrooms to replace the protein lose you may be experiencing. If you feel the need to, don't be afraid to use "meat substitutes" during your transition... sometimes just eating something that resembles a meat product you're use to can calm that craving. The brain is crazy like that! haha
 
Why I stopped eating meat

pyronymph said:
If you feel the need to, don't be afraid to use "meat substitutes" during your transition... sometimes just eating something that resembles a meat product you're use to can calm that craving. The brain is crazy like that! haha

I love those meat substitutes. My husband & I have been added them in our diet for quite a while now...even though we still bought meat. The different veggie burgers are my favorites...especially when they have black beans in them.
 
Why I stopped eating meat

JLWmassage said:
I feel off the wagon and started eating meat again. I am finding that I am having a really hard time during my period. Any suggestions as to how I can over come this?

I can't recommend meat substitutes... most of them are full of weird things (like soy extracts) that are not good for the body.

A good acupuncturist who has enough nutrition experience should be able to guide you through this. For some reason nettles come to mind, but I could be off base. Check with a professional!
 
Why I stopped eating meat

Most likely you crave meat because it is a dense form of protein and your body needs a good amount in order to stay healthy. The average person who wishes to maintain their lean muscle mass needs about 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight per day. For a 150 lb person, that's 150 grams of protein per day.

For those who are more active and/or trying to gain muscle mass, you need more like 1.25 or more grams of protein per day. High-performing athletes may consume 4 or more grams of protein per pound of bodyweight every day.

If you cut back on meat, you need to balance that protein reduction by finding an alternate method of obtaining adequate levels to meet your physical needs. Doing so will make it much easier to get rid of those "meat cravings" that result from inadequate protein consumption.
 
Why I stopped eating meat

You said: "I feel off the wagon and started eating meat again. I am finding that I am having a really hard time during my period. Any suggestions as to how I can over come this?"

Of course you crave meat during that time. You're losing iron (in the blood) during your period. So your body craves meat to replace the iron. It's not a problem. Your body's natural mechanisms at work to keep you healthy.
 
Why I stopped eating meat

JasonE said:
Most likely you crave meat because it is a dense form of protein and your body needs a good amount in order to stay healthy. The average person who wishes to maintain their lean muscle mass needs about 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight per day. For a 150 lb person, that's 150 grams of protein per day.
Jason, where do you get that figure? That is way higher than most nutritionists would recommend. In fact, that's higher than the recommendation for triathletes. Excess protein harms, instead of helps the body, so I wouldn't recommend overeating protein to anyone.

Here's a simple chart of protein requirements for the average person, as well as a chart on the protein content in foods (both vegetarian & meat)
http://life.familyeducation.com/protein/foods/48678.html

Here's an interview with an MD who specializes in nutrition needs:
http://www.thedoctorwillseeyounow.com/articles/nutrition/protein_2/

JLWMassage, I agree with Convoluted's insight that meat cravings during your period can definitely be related to iron loss. Red meat is high in iron, but there are many vegetarian options that are high in iron as well. However, you need to eat Vitamin C at the same time, to help your body absorb vegetarian iron. Here's a detailed table on foods that are high in both:
http://www.nutritiondata.com/foods-011101119000000000000.html
 
Why I stopped eating meat

Oops! I said "pound" instead of "kilo" and did my math accordingly. I should be more careful when posting late at night. :oops: Here's what I meant to say:

JasonE said:
Most likely you crave meat because it is a dense form of protein and your body needs a good amount in order to stay healthy. The average person who wishes to maintain their lean muscle mass needs about 1 gram of protein per kilo of bodyweight per day. For a 150 lb person, that's 68 grams of protein per day. (To convert pounds to kilos, go here: http://www.healthyweightforum.org/eng/converter.asp)

For those who are more active and/or trying to gain muscle mass, you need more like 1.25 or more grams of protein per kilo per day. High-performing athletes may consume 4 or more grams of protein per kilo of bodyweight every day. (This level of protein intake is rare and should be practiced only under medical supervision.)

If you cut back on meat, you need to balance that protein reduction by finding an alternate method of obtaining adequate levels to meet your physical needs. Doing so will make it much easier to get rid of those "meat cravings" that result from inadequate protein consumption.
 
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    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  31. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Phoenix, Nayla & Vivian are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  32. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo, Noor & Angela are her today ๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  33. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Rose๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ˜˜An enchanting and skilled new Asian massage girl, known for her calming presence and soothing touch. With long, silky dark hair and delicate features, Rose exudes an aura of serenity and grace. As she gently guides you thro
  34. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Brazilian girl 23ys curvy body &new Asian girl today
  35. wonderspa:
    . ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,if you need to find a comfortable place to revive your body rexlaing come visit us.4beautiful attendants ,Today and tomorrow RMT available,sexy very young girl Mimi,natural c cup,very good looking ๐Ÿ˜ปTina ,open mind she knows what do you want,๐Ÿ’„very friendly Lucy nice smiling very popular must try๐Ÿ˜ป๐Ÿท
  36. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  37. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the only official schedule for AMORE SPA: Tuesday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY(10AM-11pm) & Tiny Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. Tiny LALA is unbelievably good
  38. ASPA:
    TUESDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Best Massage Rachel, & Wendy ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4โ€ tall with nice responsive 34Cโ€™s and a captivating smooth rounded bottom. She is popular for her excellent massage skills and a little extra.
  39. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy with big buttocks 30โ€™s open mind and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, cute GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North Yo
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: CICI, CINDY & JENNY. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, MIMI & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range
  43. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5โ€™2โ€tall . 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  44. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Great BBBJ, CIM, GFE in Her menu Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  45. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธKandy๐ŸŒธJazmin Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  46. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธCamilaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  48. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: For Tuesday November 12, 2024, our attendants will be Ada โค๏ธ, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Yoyo ๐Ÿคฉ, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜ and Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ Call us at 905-479-6668 to book your favourite!
  49. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo has joined Angela & Noor for the evening ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  50. Newspring@:
    Nu spring spa โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot Latino ๐ŸŒธSingapore ๐ŸŒธKorean girls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ7-15 Karachi dr Markham
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