Why I stopped eating meat

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For many years my upper back has been my troublesome area in my body. It would really bother me while I would massage clients. I would have this burning tired tight feeling while I would be working. Than it got to a point when it would travel down my arms and make my hands tired. Then one day while I was working on a client it hit me what I needed to do because massage was not the only answer. I thought I should stop eating meat because my worst attacks were after I ate, which I always had some kind of meat. I have been meat free for 2 weeks now and that gross burning feeling is gone in my back and I have never felt better.

Does anyone else have the same story?
 


Nice. My acupuncturist stopped eating corn after doing the allergy diet she had me do... she found that it caused a very specific form of back pain for her!
 


I haven't got a story like that, but yours is pretty cool! I have heard such stories in the past, as well. Good for you! Do you plan to go long-term with this, do you think?
 


My goal is long term, but I must say I am really suprised how different my body feels. Goes to show you are what you eat
 


That's wonderful! I'm really glad you found an answer to your problem. It's amazing how many of our problems relate back to food allergies and sensitivities. Food allergy testing is not always accurate, either, which makes the process more frustrating.

I find it interesting as to how many people these days HAVE issues with certain foods. Has it always been like this? I don't remember hearing about it so much historically, even back when I was growing up. A few people had serious allergies, like to peanuts, but that was it. Nobody really had problems with eggs that I remember. It all seems to be a more recent thing. I wonder if there is a link with the genetic engineering going on in an ever-growing sector of the food population, and lack of labeling makes it hard to buy what's best and to know what you're eating.

Lately, I've found that cutting back on (although I haven't abstained entirely from) wheat and chocolate has been very good for my system. I've dropped several pounds in a relatively short period of time and I feel less foggy after a meal. I also FEEL thinner/lighter/leaner, and it's more of an "inside" feeling, not necessarily the fact that I can fit into my jeans better (although that's happening, too).

Hehe oh well, just my ramblings. :)

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I find it interesting as to how many people these days HAVE issues with certain foods. Has it always been like this?

I think it's a connection that's really easy to overlook. I mean, unless you do an allergy reduction diet and cut all these foods out and add them back in one by one, how do you know what each variable is doing to your body? As you say, conventional allergy testing is only one piece of the puzzle. I think many people just live with poor digestion or other symptoms and think it's normal.

Also, food has changed so significantly. And the amount and diversity of weird food products we put into our bodies amounts to a great deal of complexity. Not an easy situation to sort out into straightforward causes and effects.
 
Why I stopped eating meat

I feel off the wagon and started eating meat again. I am finding that I am having a really hard time during my period. Any suggestions as to how I can over come this?
 
Why I stopped eating meat

JLWmassage said:
I feel off the wagon and started eating meat again. I am finding that I am having a really hard time during my period. Any suggestions as to how I can over come this?

I'll be curious to see the reply's on this one. My husband and I recently made the decision to cut meat from our diets and I am concerned about my red meat cravings during my period. We've done the gradual approach...just not buying any meat and using up what's left in our kitchen. I have been focused on eating more protein..eggs, cheese..protain shakes, peanut butter..etc. I do wonder if taking an iron supplement would be the way to go during that time of the month??
 
Why I stopped eating meat

Don't get discouraged, changing your eating habits is hard! Kudos for taking the initiative to take better care of yourself this way.

As far as the cravings during your period, I used to get those too... mostly, I believe, because my mother would encourage me to eat more meat during my period due to dizziness and severe cramping I would get. Try eating more beans, dark leafy greens and mushrooms to replace the protein lose you may be experiencing. If you feel the need to, don't be afraid to use "meat substitutes" during your transition... sometimes just eating something that resembles a meat product you're use to can calm that craving. The brain is crazy like that! haha
 
Why I stopped eating meat

pyronymph said:
If you feel the need to, don't be afraid to use "meat substitutes" during your transition... sometimes just eating something that resembles a meat product you're use to can calm that craving. The brain is crazy like that! haha

I love those meat substitutes. My husband & I have been added them in our diet for quite a while now...even though we still bought meat. The different veggie burgers are my favorites...especially when they have black beans in them.
 
Why I stopped eating meat

JLWmassage said:
I feel off the wagon and started eating meat again. I am finding that I am having a really hard time during my period. Any suggestions as to how I can over come this?

I can't recommend meat substitutes... most of them are full of weird things (like soy extracts) that are not good for the body.

A good acupuncturist who has enough nutrition experience should be able to guide you through this. For some reason nettles come to mind, but I could be off base. Check with a professional!
 
Why I stopped eating meat

Most likely you crave meat because it is a dense form of protein and your body needs a good amount in order to stay healthy. The average person who wishes to maintain their lean muscle mass needs about 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight per day. For a 150 lb person, that's 150 grams of protein per day.

For those who are more active and/or trying to gain muscle mass, you need more like 1.25 or more grams of protein per day. High-performing athletes may consume 4 or more grams of protein per pound of bodyweight every day.

If you cut back on meat, you need to balance that protein reduction by finding an alternate method of obtaining adequate levels to meet your physical needs. Doing so will make it much easier to get rid of those "meat cravings" that result from inadequate protein consumption.
 
Why I stopped eating meat

You said: "I feel off the wagon and started eating meat again. I am finding that I am having a really hard time during my period. Any suggestions as to how I can over come this?"

Of course you crave meat during that time. You're losing iron (in the blood) during your period. So your body craves meat to replace the iron. It's not a problem. Your body's natural mechanisms at work to keep you healthy.
 
Why I stopped eating meat

JasonE said:
Most likely you crave meat because it is a dense form of protein and your body needs a good amount in order to stay healthy. The average person who wishes to maintain their lean muscle mass needs about 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight per day. For a 150 lb person, that's 150 grams of protein per day.
Jason, where do you get that figure? That is way higher than most nutritionists would recommend. In fact, that's higher than the recommendation for triathletes. Excess protein harms, instead of helps the body, so I wouldn't recommend overeating protein to anyone.

Here's a simple chart of protein requirements for the average person, as well as a chart on the protein content in foods (both vegetarian & meat)
http://life.familyeducation.com/protein/foods/48678.html

Here's an interview with an MD who specializes in nutrition needs:
http://www.thedoctorwillseeyounow.com/articles/nutrition/protein_2/

JLWMassage, I agree with Convoluted's insight that meat cravings during your period can definitely be related to iron loss. Red meat is high in iron, but there are many vegetarian options that are high in iron as well. However, you need to eat Vitamin C at the same time, to help your body absorb vegetarian iron. Here's a detailed table on foods that are high in both:
http://www.nutritiondata.com/foods-011101119000000000000.html
 
Why I stopped eating meat

Oops! I said "pound" instead of "kilo" and did my math accordingly. I should be more careful when posting late at night. :oops: Here's what I meant to say:

JasonE said:
Most likely you crave meat because it is a dense form of protein and your body needs a good amount in order to stay healthy. The average person who wishes to maintain their lean muscle mass needs about 1 gram of protein per kilo of bodyweight per day. For a 150 lb person, that's 68 grams of protein per day. (To convert pounds to kilos, go here: http://www.healthyweightforum.org/eng/converter.asp)

For those who are more active and/or trying to gain muscle mass, you need more like 1.25 or more grams of protein per kilo per day. High-performing athletes may consume 4 or more grams of protein per kilo of bodyweight every day. (This level of protein intake is rare and should be practiced only under medical supervision.)

If you cut back on meat, you need to balance that protein reduction by finding an alternate method of obtaining adequate levels to meet your physical needs. Doing so will make it much easier to get rid of those "meat cravings" that result from inadequate protein consumption.
 
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    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธSami๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธSummer๐ŸŒธTiffany Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  34. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธCarly๐ŸŒธKellyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  35. Spa in Markham:
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  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  41. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 New Add bookmark #199 We had three girls working today, Kiki Sarah and Vivi. 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga
  42. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : LUCKY (12:30pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, small body, busty D cup, very beautiful face, Young/Cute/Petite/Pure/Submissive, Fair Skin/Perky Ass/Sweet, Super Open-Minded bbbj cim cof rim, excellent service, also strong massage. SUGAR (10am-9pm): is young,petite, 5'1"
  43. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services...
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services.
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, young sexy Michelle 25โ€™s with curve body open mind and Cute GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, ELLA, MIA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE
  48. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒนโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ Wonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)L6a 4H8,๐Ÿ”ฅ4165000-800,Ensuit rain shower now is available ,every day 4 nice girls working,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,everything she can do,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is very beautiful face long leg friendly ,nice body slide,really popular must try๐ŸŒนlong hair Mina Q smile ,beautiful strong to relaxing oil massage,back walk,hot stone,more experience,relief your stress,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  49. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl โ—๏ธCindy, sexy girl 1.65 M.pretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ Sweet girl Luna deep message ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Mia Vietnamese Sasa friendly Vietnamese girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School gir โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
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