'Why men pay for it' -SBS doco

[Andrea Vanessa]

I'll do this as a two-for-one: anyone else see three footballers have been fined $2000 for visiting a brothel in Sydney? As part of the whole disrepute thing? Oh, and they claim they didn't have sex, they just went in and had drinks.

Anyway...

Documentary on Reviewiday (i.e. in six days time, not last night) at 10pm SBS entitled 'Why Australian Men Pay For It'. Pretty self explanatory I guess. Mostly looking at case studies of men who are mp.nets (but also talks to some of the WLs and brothel operators in Melbourne - which allows some of us to play the 'Hey! I've shagged her!' scene out when we watch it...)

I'm interested to see how they spin it. I've noticed that often in docos when they DO put a positive spin on the industry (that is, one that doesn't condemn or slag off the women involved) the recompense is presenting the clients as drooling lavicious misogynists. And okay some are, but mostly we're not. Well, aside Reviewom the footballers...



(see how I tied everything back together??)

 

[bleh^^]

boomerang post ...

it all comes back.

Your literary genius has not gone unnoticed.

 

[Tera]

If i'm bruttuly honest. I'm one of lifes f..kups. I'm no good at talking to females. Anything I say to them comes out wrong. And it's all a big hassel and i'm no good at it. I guess with W.G.s ther's no presure and no hassel. I can be more relaxed.
Yours Colin The Hun :evil:

 

[Real Life]

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[Greg B]

charm, wit, intelligence and personality is not enough

I don't want to sound like a braggart, but I do possess all the above qualities in bucket loads.

I have the ability and confidence to literally "charm the pants off" most women both via the written word and verbally. The problem is when they see me in person face to face, they can't seem to run fast enough in the opposite direction ! Heck, I've dated over 110 individual ladies in the last 16yrs and none of them has ever gone further than the first date. Being a nice guy and good person doesn't help you any when the ladies all say that "sorry, you don't click" line to you.

A brown paper bag should be an optional accessory, not a requirement !

People say that looks don't matter ! Of course it doesn't matter if you are the one that has the "right" looks !

I guess some of us are just destined to be born alone, live alone and die alone.

To be honest, I'm one of those who will be paying for it right up to the day I'm wheeled into the nursing home ! Outcall anyone ?

 

[Samm(:]

this doco

Colin, Ginger and Royce, I think you are all being a little modest. Women are pretty amazing creatures and go for "the package" in real life, they are a little deeper than we are. Also, you fellas have always cracked me up, this is a pretty good aphrodisiac for women. But I do agree, this doco will probably go down the same path as all others.

This doco will probably either focus on those wl's who hate men or those clients who are total crap. I would leave it to the wl's to decide but I know I look okay, better than normal. I also know that I treat all women like ladies, not dumb little possessions but ladies. I also know that I am really good at giving oral pleasure to women, once again they should judge but I know it anyway. I always book 11/2 hours or 2 hours but only ever to climax once, I think I am a wl's dream client.

I think the answer is obvious. I get to see young ladies and older ladies who are beautiful, have exceptional service, are exceptionaly interesting and for 11/2 hours or 2 hours I am theirs and they are mine. It is like a gripping movie, suspension of disbelief. I genuinely care for them and genuinely respect them and never speak poorly of them, but I am not in love with them. I can go home to my wife, who I love and not feel that I gave my "self" or my "soul" to anyone else.

I will never have an mpfair of the heart, even though some numb nuts suggest that as an alternative. I do not cheat on my wife, well not with my heart anyway.
In other words, it isn't two odd bods colliding and bumping uglies for half an hour, there is thought, respect and a meeting of minds.

There, my two cents worth, some of my close Reviewiends and people I respect just happen to be wl's.

One last tip, not always, but usually, I make an initial appointment to see a wl for just a chat, 1/2 hour. Most will do 1/2 hour if no sex involved. It is like an interview and really is worth your while. Then, I stay loyal to a handful of ladies I know and trust. Kim, Kelli Anne (although its been a long time) and Grace are my current ladies, Louisa used to be and now that she is closer I perhaps should add her again. Once you know your ladies, stick with them, why risk change?

Anyway, as I said, this doco will either make wl's or clients look like total losers. I have never met a wl who didn't derive "some" enjoyment Reviewom what she does and I haven't met a real stupid one yet. I don't believe I have met a victim yet. Clients, the same, if the posts are indicative, they seem like reasonable people to me. The three fellas who demeaned themselves above seem always to be right "on the money", entertaining and congenial. So, lets see what they say, but lets not let it worry us

Post Edited By NikkiVip
sorry Jayvee but I have edited parts of your post due to you mentioning some ladies names, that you have seen over the years and I truely feel that you have stepped over the boundary by talking about their private lives, children, Reviewiends and families etc in a public forum

 

[Princess Jess]

I recently saw the following blog entry which has a pretty cool take on this subject:
http://www.whittlingwood.com/index.php?p=30&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

Basically, the writer queries why there is a stigma attached to the industry and concludes that the ladies are great and provide an excellent service to society.

 

[LovingMyHusband]

gezzzzzzzzzz

come on people can we PLEASE TRY AND REMEMBER that:
Working ladies would like their private lives kept out of posts :!:
Jayvee I realize you have just "come back" onto the scene BUT can you please use some "tact" when writing a post :roll:
There was absolutly NO reason to mention ANY of the ladies that you did in regards to speaking about their private lifes outside of the industry. What ladies tell you 'BEHIND CLOSED DOORS" should STAY THERE :!: If they wanted it to be common knowledge Im sure they would put it in their advert 8)
Put the boot on the other foot .....................

 

[cassandra007]

Private details

Totally agree NikkiVIP, the inclusion of the details which I read were most inappropriate and should not be disclosed in open forum. I certainly would not want my personal private details revealed either!

 

[moondog]

sorry

I thought it was pretty minor, but my point was that they have their own lives and I have mine. it is not love and that is why it works so well, it is Revieweindship with a kicker. I can't think of anything private that I said. In summary I meant that I am sure that their families and Revieweinds are more important to them than I am.

Sorry, I cant remember actually saying anything that private but if I did, well, you're the boss. I hope my point got accross. I almost guarantee that this doco will make one of us, either wl's or clients look like losers.

I am very sorry NikkiVip, I wish I could remember my inReviewaction but I am always very discreet about the wl's I see, that is why I rarely, if ever, review. I trust your judgement and will try to remember it in the future, shit one week and already I have been a naughty boy. It is really embarrassing for me, I am not accustomed to being edited, there has never been a need.

Am I rusty? I am certainly not a gossip.

 

[kend]

yes naughty boy !!

LOL hey babe - no apology needed or sought mpter - I think there has been enough of those in the forum for one day arghhhhhhhhhh LOL
It's all good babe. Just a point that needed to be pointed out for everyone I think and it has been so the end of it yahhhhhhhhhhhhh
I think I might have to put you on to Mistress Tempest for a good ole fashion spanking :wink:
Be good and be good at it 8)

 

[ericaaaalhk]

Re the SBS doco........

Why men pay for it......

I completely forgot about the screening of this documentary which was this thread starter.
I am curious, did anyone Reviewom this forum watch this doco, and would they care to post comments on same?

 

[JUMPMASTER]

I saw it

The doco appeared to be based on surveys Reviewom brothel clients. The stats were not my experience but then the married guys were more likely to self select out because of guilt, so as with any methodology, there is likely to be flaw/s which skew the results.

Interestingly, the press relase Reviewom EROS listed the reasons for seeing a wl to be - loneliness, power or practicality. Those reasons do ring true, albeit to dfferent degrees for differnet people I have seen over the years.

It's interesting how much one can pick up Reviewom the types of posts people write too as to perhaps their reasons for visiting wls. I would say the guys who visited me most were mpter fun, mostly married, generally up beat guys. This type wasn't really portrayed in the doco.

I have noticed in the past couple of years an increasing acceptance in society of sex workers and i must say i had not really thought about the way a sex worker's clients are percieved b4!

There isn't much info around about clients and this doco did portray clients in a very stereotypicial way I thought.

food for thought

 

[Persephone]

Methodologies

Good points on how the self-selection process would give skewed results. There sure wasn't much of the "Hey, I enjoy fucking different people, and I like variety" outlook there was it? And I'll try not to mention the songs that guy wrote...

Nevertheless, my dominant impression of it (I rewatched it today - I've had two exams this week and I am BORED) - aside Reviewom wanting to see Rebekah at the Retreat! - was that at least it was a non-negative portrait of both mp.nets and WLs. Hell, even the streetworkers were treated with respect, picking ones who were quite articulate rather than cliches. That the portrait of clients (I won't comment on how WLs were presented, that's for someone like Carly) was one-sided to the 'lonely guy' side of the equation was a problem, but not necessarily a fatal one - if anyone saw a doco on the ABC last year about a program in England whereby mp.nets arrested were browbeaten by seminars into - urgh, I won't go on - this was miles ahead. Even if it was more a 'tolerant them, they have needs' rather than a deconstruction of how society is structured in ways that simultaneously promotes and punishes sexual desire. I'd prefer 'in your face' but sometimes I'm content with wishy-washy-liberal (small 'l' please note).